Ramar tips.

[Blue-Hawk]

I am an inexperienced Ramar player. My ramar is a redria in ultimate mode, just got to caves, and can't take a hit nor can do damage.
His base stats are as follows-
lv 61
hp- 404
tp- 370
atp- 550
def- 169
mst- 310
ata- 181
evp- 283
luck- 16

Mag stats are-
Sato
lv 200
synchro- 120
iq- 200
def- 6
pow- 103
dex- 70
mind- 21

Equipment is as follows-
Final Impact +30 0,0,0,0,5
Red Mechs +30 0,0,0,0
Yasminkov 3000R +60 0,0,15,0
Sometimes I swith that out for a FS

Perfecr Frame 4 slots
God/Power
God/Arm
God/Body
God/Battle
I have a God/HP, but that's with my Melee fomarl right now.
Secret Gear, which will be switched for a Flowens Shield at 66. Weaker, but looks better. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Now, my ramarl, at lv 83, is in the same area, but I can get her out if I so choose to, http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif has a Rati, but ut's stats are
def- 6
pow- 124
dex- 70
mind- 0

Think it would make a difference if I switch these mags around?
Any and all help would be apreciated. Thanks.

[Tycho]

Yes, you should probably give the Ramar the mag with more power. A RAmar's Resta is practically useless anyway. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif
By the way, can you still use materials? Maybe it would help if you used a load of power and luck mats. All according to a plan aimed at later levels ofcourse.

[Blue-Hawk]

Yes I can still use mats. In fact, I use a combination of pow, def and luck.

[digigram]

my Ramar. lvl.. 92 somethin. (forgot)

mag = currently pushan with 10/140/50/0.. obviously lvl200.

online, he is useless in ult still.
offline, totally works.

I would just suggest getting a couple good weapons you like to use.. (a pair of weapons, like, spreadneedle and red mechs, or charge arms hit50%, and yas9000's)..

and just try your best..there really isn't a whole lot you can do with a RAmar short of overleveling.

[Shar]

That's pretty odd, because when my Ramarl was level 65 she did offline Cave. Although it took a while, I did made it. And my equipment is like yours, I had a nidra with 10/130/60/0, a god arm and some other stuff.
I mainly beat it thanks to my frozen shooter/charge vulcan combo. And my shifta was only like.. level 11

[Blue-Hawk]

Um... Like I said, I CAN get my ramarl out of ult caves, I just haven't really felt the urge to do so yet.

And Digi, read my weapon list. I already have red mechs. >_< As for the needle, my ramarl has the only one I was able to get my hands on as of yet. Offline blows.

[Tsudo_Plat]

Here's my tip:

[Special Note: Do not read the following if you like to use RAmars or HUmars, because the bashing is about to commence.]

Don't make RAmars! They freaking suck! S&D lvl 15 is hardly worth using, their MST is a friggin joke and their other stats pale in comparison to the other Rangers. RAmarl ownz RAmars in every WAY!

Same goes for those other pieces of shyt that call themselves HUmars... UGH. Utter waste of a character slot.

Like I always say, shit belongs in the toilet, not in PSO. So put those RAmars and HUmars back where they belong.... right in the toilet.

[/end bashing]

On a lighter note, RAmars have the best ATA in the game and since offline is easy as it is. The minimize the ATA on your MAG and go all out POW on it. Same goes for the material usage. Go all out POW. If you later decide to max your RAmars stats u can just reset ur mats and start from scratch.

[Shar]

On 2004-10-04 10:55, Blue-Hawk wrote:
Um... Like I said, I CAN get my ramarl out of ult caves, I just haven't really felt the urge to do so yet.

And Digi, read my weapon list. I already have red mechs. >_< As for the needle, my ramarl has the only one I was able to get my hands on as of yet. Offline blows.



But your ramarl is in the 80s.. And I guess a ramarl level 65 has about as much ata as a ramar lvl 61.

[digigram]

I know, I was just saying. Mainly, like someone else said...RAmars suck until probably above LVL:120. they still can be used, though they still are weak. Again, like someone else said..their MST is a joke, LVL 15 S/D sucks (better than nothing though) and all of their attack techs are pretty much worthless.

for techs. I would only use S/D ... and focus strictly on ATA and POWER.. the ATA can be gained with GOD/ARMs (which you have), so make another mag or borrow one from another character if you have one, that has less DEX. 70 is just way too much ATA that you could have spent on POW. With RAmars, POWER is key. I had a 65 DEX mag in ULT forest online when my RAmar was lvl:81 and was hitting for like ...40-50 with charge arms with 50% hit and 40 on native.... this was with a mag that had MIND and DEX way too high than they even needed to be (and the mind was only like 20, dex was 65, DEF was 20 and POW was 95.. it completely didn't work well) ...so I made an Extra Pushan, that had NO mind, less dex and 140 POW and I was able to get through ULT forest online (big difference) with just 15 S/D and charge arms and a justy with 35 on native.


thats my advice... make a new mag.. and rearrange units so that you have one god arm like you have, but put on as much POWER as you can... and you'll do fine if you're physical evasion is good. Only use a spread(ie:shot) if you are far enough away or have Frozen a group of baddies.




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[shingo]

my Ramar doesnt suck when he was lower 120

hear was my stuff
Koku lvl 115
weapon:The big purple katana
Armor:brightness circle
1God power
2metal body 3elf arm ++
4 general battle
Tripolic Sheild
mag-panzer tail (lvl200)
Mag stats
10 Def
197 power
20 ata
o magic



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[digigram]

ok.. shingo..

Panzer tail:

requires 50+ NAGA.

How do you make a naga?
You have a forcemake it.

whats one of the Requirments of a force making naga:
By having more than 0 MIND on the mag.

[Hrith]

Besides 10/197/20/0 means Panzer's Tail Lv 227, nice mag.

[Skorpius]

RAmar tip #1:
Delete and make a RAmarl XD

[Nai_Calus]

RAmar tip #2: Delete and make a FOmar. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif Oh wait, Ranger, right. Delete and make a RAcast. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

And wow, this thread has nothing to do with HUmars and it ends up bashing them anyway. WTF.

[RicoRoyal]

On 2004-10-04 15:53, Ian-KunX wrote:
RAmar tip #2: Delete and make a FOmar. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif Oh wait, Ranger, right. Delete and make a RAcast. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

And wow, this thread has nothing to do with HUmars and it ends up bashing them anyway. WTF.



And wow, this thread has nothing to do with whether Blue-Hawk should make a new character, delete an old one, or replace an old with a new. Stop bashing RAmars, HUmars, etc. This thread is asking for RAmar tips. That is all. W.T.F.

To answer your question, Blue-Hawk; yes, you should switch the two mags around. You may not see much difference though, as the two mags aren't really that different from one another :/ Perhaps you should make a new mag http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_yes.gif (one with less DEX and more POW). Also, equip that Secret Gear http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_mad.gif (you don't have to if you reallly did get attached to that Flowen's Shield http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif).

[Skorpius]

Low dex, high pow mag
defesive units (bodys, legs)
use weapon specials! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[kazuma56]

my RAmar was in Ult mines at lvl 70 something, which is decent IMO.

I suggest getting a Rifle with high hit(demons or something around there type speical), although they may be weak, with the speed of a G/B it should be easy enough to pick off enemies with lvl 15 Shifta alone, also, if you are any good at meleeing, try using sabers or partizans for groups because you can escape if timed right.

BTW, RAmars Resta is decent IMO, filling a max of 480 HP, which is decent enough for low HP chars like Fo's and Hunewearl/RAmarl.

[Blue-Hawk]

To those that said recreate- I loath racasts, abhor fomars and outright fucking HATE humars.

That, and I already have a ramarl and a racaseal on another card. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[digigram]

I think all the actual advice leads you to one conclusion.. make another mag.

with either low/none mind.
and all efforts focused towards power and maybe 50 DEX.

[HAYABUSA-FMW-]

Check out my 'OMG weak!' OFFLINE ONLY RAmar:

Lv. 116
-828 HP
-644 TP

-1013 ATP
-409 DFP
-529 MST
-179 ATA
-450 EVP
-48 LCK
All base -to the right stats-
My gear:
Frozen Shooter +9, 20%Native
Luminous Field 4 slots of course, yay ADD SLOTS!
-Ogre Power++
-Angel Mind+
-Metal body
-Devil Battle
Secret Gear

Kama 20/175/5/0

I used primarily DEF mats:
78 POWER
95 DEFENSE(not so good for maxing stats,use less)
56 MIND
2 EVASION(oops! X_X!)
19 LUCK
And 35 HP mats so far.

I do just fine being Offline only.
I wrote about beating Ultimate Olga Flow at lv 110 ish, before Ultimate DF, with only a 15% A.Beast 15%Hit JUSTY.

Its my best character, only one to finish Ultimate on Ep. 1 and Ep. 2. He would probably be horrible Online but that's beside the point.

Give RAmar time to level, little to no DEX on a mag, high hit % weps from the shop, good DEF/POW/LUCK(as you are doing) material usage (check out the PSO character manager program on this site, by Adam Hill).
Last but not least.

Frozen Shooter=owns

Also take some of Kazuma's? advice, another Offline only RAmar who has a nice level, found weapons and armors.

[Blue-Hawk]

Well, after much thought, and watching my friends pathetic excuse for a ramar get owned in vhard ruins as bad as mine did at higher levels AND with higher def than mine, we have both decided to recreate. Mine to be another ramarl- I love those http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif and his to be a hunewearl. I have a mag I raised a while back for him. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif
I know this is going to be flamed, but we both are going bluefill. I had redria's before and got 3 God/Battles out of it. Bluefill is the only ID i have yet to get into ultimate on the GC.

Thanks for the help people. I really apreciate it.

[HAYABUSA-FMW-]

On 2004-10-04 21:30, Blue-Hawk wrote:
Well, after much thought, and watching my friends pathetic excuse for a ramar get owned in vhard ruins as bad as mine did at higher levels AND with higher def than mine, we have both decided to recreate. Mine to be another ramarl- I love those http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif and his to be a hunewearl. I have a mag I raised a while back for him. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Thanks for the help people. I really apreciate it.

I so own Offline Multiplayer VHARD Ruins w/ my RAmar.

Must be my DEF w/ mats and Luminous Field and lv.15 Deband.

Aww giving up so easily on him. Level 60ish is nowhere near touching his true potential.

Rare mags with 50+ DEX are really worthless when you're Offline and only you and your friends will be seeing them.
Effectiveness from a high POW mag will be RAmar's strong suit since you don't have Jellen/Zalure to fall back on, so you HAVE to power him up through POW/DEF MATS.

Never needing to add DEX to a mag for a RAmar? don't tell me that isn't tempting?

But to each their own.
I wish you luck in the future without your 'weak' RAmar. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Blue-Hawk]

On 2004-10-04 21:44, HAYABUSA-FMW- wrote:
[quote]


But to each their own.
I wish you luck in the future without your 'weak' RAmar. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif


Remember. I was the one that willingly killed a lv 173 ramarl last year just because I didn't like the id anymore. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Deus-Irae]

On 2004-10-04 21:30, Blue-Hawk wrote:
Well, after much thought, and watching my friends pathetic excuse for a ramar get owned in vhard ruins as bad as mine did at higher levels AND with higher def than mine, we have both decided to recreate. Mine to be another ramarl- I love those http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif and his to be a hunewearl. I have a mag I raised a while back for him. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif
I know this is going to be flamed, but we both are going bluefill. I had redria's before and got 3 God/Battles out of it. Bluefill is the only ID i have yet to get into ultimate on the GC.



"YIPE YIPE YIPE YIPE"

**RAmar runs away with tail between legs**

enjoy Oblivion poor RAmar. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif


Remember. I was the one that willingly killed a lv 173 ramarl last year just because I didn't like the id anymore.

yes, you are truly nuts!

[Gynn_Rei]

My RAmarl owns Ruins at lvl 126 easily. Only those Chaos Sorcerers.

My idea of maxing your RAmar is as follows:

Material Useage:
ATP: 91
DFP: 50
MST: 30
EVP: 38
LCK: 41

Mag Stats:
ATP: 136
DFP: 6
MST: 50
ATA: 8

Units:
GOD/BODY
GOD/ARM

Notes:
Every stat will be maxed except for Luck with just 8 points short. You'll learn to live with the given ATP of materials, my RAmarl used 101 ATP mats and has 100 ATP on the mag. With Shifta she does 400ish damage if I remember well. This is goed enough...

[Gjl]

On 2004-10-04 17:51, kazuma56 wrote:
BTW, RAmars Resta is decent IMO, filling a max of 480 HP, which is decent enough for low HP chars like Fo's and Hunewearl/RAmarl.


480 HP Resta is NOT decent for anything beyond Mines http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif. Plus forces and HUnewearls have shit defense, so they're gonna actually need more Resta to get to full HP after each hit (because they'll take more damage a hit).

[Hrith]

HUnewearl has very good defense >_>

[Gjl]

On 2004-10-05 01:07, Kef wrote:
HUnewearl has very good defense >_>



Ah, you're right http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif. I need to stop getting myself pwned so much http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif.

[SJ]

i know this is totaly off topic but this is gettin dumb...
HUMARS DO NOT SUCK!!! RAMARS DO NOT SUCK!!!
what YOU think they look like is opinion but they DO NOT suck!!!
The stats are not that bad!!!
And though every here says that lv15 shifta, deband, jellen, zalure and resta are pointless, they're not!

On topic >
Change you're mag (soz if someones said this), a 5/145/50/0 would be much better on a ramar.
Also I'd level some more in forest personaly..

[Gynn_Rei]

On 2004-10-05 10:39, Gjl wrote:


On 2004-10-05 01:07, Kef wrote:
HUnewearl has very good defense >_>



Ah, you're right http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif. I need to stop getting myself pwned so much http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif.



Yeah, you really do.. Neither does a RAmarl, but you didn't say anything about that so I'll just keep my mouth shut.

RAmarl has same max DFP as HUmar (don't forget Deband lvl 20)... she owns.

[DezoPenguin]

On 2004-10-05 11:08, SJ wrote:
i know this is totaly off topic but this is gettin dumb...
HUMARS DO NOT SUCK!!! RAMARS DO NOT SUCK!!!


No one says HUmars suck, stat-wise. The only knock on 'em is that some people don't like the looks and that they're the #1 choice of n00bs who can't be bothered to move the stick when picking out their character class. I don't know if it's still like it online with GC/Xbox/BB, but in the old DC days, if you were playing a HUmar it was easier to assume you were a n00b/duper/hacker/cheater/other variety of moron and make you prove otherwise. Kind of like how if you played a HUnewearl that looked at all...feminine...it was a dead certainty you were a guy. But the class doesn't suck.

RAmars, stat-wise, are the worst class in the game. I actually like how RAmars look, but the stats are a dead weight. They're almost like melee FOnewearls; a good player can be effective with them, but that same player could be even more effective with a different class of Ranger. Me, not being a first-class player, find my RAmarls equally effective with identical equipment at a much lower level.

(Not unlike how a good player can be a good support Force regardless of which class is picked; some classes just have natural advantages.)

[kazuma56]

http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif yes, knowing class potential is always key to making great, although putting a RAmar in the league of a melee Fone seems odd IMO (He can own when meleeing because of decent ATP and best ATA using weapon specials) to each his own.

[Gynn_Rei]

I despise a FOmarl even more, how beautifull and sexy she might be... only a grants 1.5 bonus and a range bonus on Resta and Anti doesn't cut it to be a great Force.

FOmar should have less MST in comparison with the FOmarl, and I think the Forces in every aspect are not balanced. But hey, that's my opinion.

[SJ]

On 2004-10-05 13:53, DezoPenguin wrote:


On 2004-10-05 11:08, SJ wrote:
i know this is totaly off topic but this is gettin dumb...
HUMARS DO NOT SUCK!!! RAMARS DO NOT SUCK!!!


No one says HUmars suck, stat-wise. The only knock on 'em is that some people don't like the looks and that they're the #1 choice of n00bs who can't be bothered to move the stick when picking out their character class. I don't know if it's still like it online with GC/Xbox/BB, but in the old DC days, if you were playing a HUmar it was easier to assume you were a n00b/duper/hacker/cheater/other variety of moron and make you prove otherwise. Kind of like how if you played a HUnewearl that looked at all...feminine...it was a dead certainty you were a guy. But the class doesn't suck.

RAmars, stat-wise, are the worst class in the game. I actually like how RAmars look, but the stats are a dead weight. They're almost like melee FOnewearls; a good player can be effective with them, but that same player could be even more effective with a different class of Ranger. Me, not being a first-class player, find my RAmarls equally effective with identical equipment at a much lower level.

(Not unlike how a good player can be a good support Force regardless of which class is picked; some classes just have natural advantages.)


I thought stat wise racaseals were worst..

[Hrith]

hmm, yeah, RAmar is actually pretty good, Dezo, and RAcaseal is indeed much worse.

With my Lv 107 RAmar, I did EN#4 and not only I did not die, but also I was the "powerhouse" of the team.

It doesn't matter who and what were the others, if I can pwn online Ult Ruins at Lv 107, RAmar's good.

And with good equipment, I think that online, any ranger is more or less the same.

[digigram]

Indeed, RAcaseals are the worst, that is, if you want to be mowing down groups of people fast. I currently have one or two of each class of ranger. So far, my RAcaseal is the highest level, 137, and I have more experience with her than any of my characters. I haven't had nearly the amount of a hard time raising my RAmar than did with her.