Dreamcast still selling in Japan?! [Archive]

Strider_Gren

Jul 11, 2002, 07:30 PM

I thought it was recalled from shelves. This is a bit OT but the dreamcast PSO community could be growing by a few people in JP servers for nostalgia if nothing else.

Japanese Hardware Sale (7-1, 7-7 2002)

The two sets of numbers represent the given week's tally and the total sales for 2002.

1. SCE PlayStation 2: 57,100/ 2,035,900
2. Nintendo GameBoy Advance: 38,900/ 1,391,600
3. Nintendo GameCube: 9,400/ 620,500
4. SCE Playstation: 3,800/ 143,600
5. Microsoft Xbox: 3,500/ 217,000
6. BANDAI Wonderswan Color: 2,400/ 95,400
7. Nintendo GameBoy Color: 2,000/ 61,600
8. Sega Dreamcast: 190/ 16,800
9. Nintendo N64: 150/ 5,000
10. BANDAI Wonderswan: 120/ 4,800
11. SCE PocketStation: 25/ 90012
12. Nintendo GameBoy: 24/ 4,100

source: Media Create

Rubesahl

Jul 11, 2002, 07:56 PM

Not that much of a surprise. I think the Japanese appreciate more the Dreamcast than US players. Well look at the game list yourself :/ They have tons of cool games for it but...

HUnewearl_Meira

Jul 11, 2002, 09:54 PM

I can't believe the Game Boy Color outsold the Dreamcast. That's just not right. O.o

Zio

Jul 12, 2002, 12:20 AM

i dont see many jp pso players online anymore. I suspect most are out playing the gc trial.

rbf2000

Jul 12, 2002, 12:43 AM

When the xbox first came out in japan, the dead dreamcast outsold it for a while.

Greg

Jul 12, 2002, 11:39 AM

On 2002-07-11 22:43, rbf2000 wrote:
When the xbox first came out in japan, the dead dreamcast outsold it for a while.

Your signature is stupid. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif

DESTRUCKTOR

Jul 12, 2002, 03:14 PM

Of coruse the Dc is still selling in the Japan man, they are still being produced different from the usa...

Greg

Jul 12, 2002, 04:33 PM

actually they are on clearence so they are moving out the last of them at a very low price.

Dangerous55

Jul 12, 2002, 04:42 PM

Well when a system is being sold for like 3 dollars anyone can buy it.

watashiwa

Jul 12, 2002, 05:07 PM

I don't even think it's worth mention. Woopty do the DC sold 190 units in a week in all of Japan. BUT the unit right above it, the Gameboy Color, sold 2000 units in a week. I think it still points to the system being dead either way you look at it. I bet the sales were mostly repair sales anyway, Dreamcasts break easily.

OMAR

Jul 12, 2002, 05:51 PM

Dreamcasts break easily

i bought mine the first day it was released and never had a problem with it....maybe dropping it from the roof of your house could break it...hmm maybe..

Greg

Jul 12, 2002, 07:17 PM

The GDrom units suck

GhoStar

Jul 12, 2002, 07:36 PM

Yeah, and PS2s are infamous for thier DRE (disc read errors) and Xbox's are known to scratch discs (and the Japanese faulted easily). No console is perfect. Heck, I got through 3 PSOne's, and don't even get me started on the GBA screen or the GC's build quality.

HAYABUSA-FMW-

Jul 12, 2002, 07:41 PM

I always thought N64's were reliable enough since one:

People rarely played them for hours and hours at a time.

and two:

No loading of discs. (Only the fact that the cartridge connectors could go bad or the system's connectors as well made it not reliable.)

But with the 4 meg ram cart. it got hot as hell and dangerous to the touch. Glad it didn't melt the plastic casing around itself.

[ This Message was edited by: HAYABUSA-FMW- on 2002-07-12 17:43 ]

Ian D

Jul 12, 2002, 07:47 PM

On 2002-07-12 17:41, HAYABUSA-FMW- wrote:
I always thought N64's were reliable enough since one:

People rarely played them for hours and hours at a time.

and two:

No loading of discs. (Only the fact that the cartridge connectors could go bad or the system's connectors as well made it not reliable.)

But with the 4 meg ram cart. it got hot as hell and dangerous to the touch. Glad it didn't melt the plastic casing around itself.

[ This Message was edited by: HAYABUSA-FMW- on 2002-07-12 17:43 ]

I dunno, I played my 64 a lot and still play it some and for some reason mine never got "too hot to touch." I think it did pretty well for being the last of the cartridge consoles.

Greg

Jul 13, 2002, 05:21 AM

On 2002-07-12 17:36, GhoStar wrote:
Xbox's are known to scratch discs (and the Japanese faulted easily).

Actually no it is not. There was a flaw that affected a limitend number of users in Japan and the situation was resolved by a recall. (let's see sony do that)

ABDUR101

Jul 13, 2002, 05:34 AM

On 2002-07-12 09:39, Greg wrote:
Your signature is stupid. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif

Fortunately, so is yours. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif

*edit*
Everybody loves grammer..everybody!

[ This Message was edited by: ABDUR101 on 2002-07-13 03:35 ]

GhoStar

Jul 13, 2002, 11:27 AM

Actually no it is not. There was a flaw that affected a limitend number of users in Japan and the situation was resolved by a recall.

Yes there was a recall and Microsoft tried there best to cover it up, but even so it was too late and stores were already boycotting the machine.

The same problem actually came up with certain PAL models of the machine. My friend's copies of Rallisport and NHL Hitz have both been scratched while in the console. Except MS just told him to take it back to where he bought it.

Dangerous55

Jul 13, 2002, 12:10 PM

Dabra

Jul 13, 2002, 12:39 PM

I need a new one..

ABDUR101

Jul 13, 2002, 05:09 PM

On 2002-07-13 10:39, Dabra_Shenrox wrote:
I need a new one..

A new sig or a new Dreamcast? o_O

Dreamcast wise, I'm thinking of buying an extra one, I'm not sure. hmmm...

Greg

Jul 13, 2002, 06:37 PM

On 2002-07-13 03:34, ABDUR101 wrote:

On 2002-07-12 09:39, Greg wrote:
Your signature is stupid. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif

Fortunately, so is yours. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif

*edit*
Everybody loves grammer..everybody!

[ This Message was edited by: ABDUR101 on 2002-07-13 03:35 ]

Sorry sir, there actually are Islamic terrorists and all of them should die horrible deaths http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[ This Message was edited by: Greg on 2002-07-13 16:41 ]

Greg

Jul 13, 2002, 06:39 PM

On 2002-07-13 09:27, GhoStar wrote:

Actually no it is not. There was a flaw that affected a limitend number of users in Japan and the situation was resolved by a recall.

Yes there was a recall and Microsoft tried there best to cover it up, but even so it was too late and stores were already boycotting the machine.

The same problem actually came up with certain PAL models of the machine. My friend's copies of Rallisport and NHL Hitz have both been scratched while in the console. Except MS just told him to take it back to where he bought it.

Uh if you call an official announcement a cover up then sure. Also the boycott of which you speak was infact stores not selling machines until the defect was identified.

rbf2000

Jul 13, 2002, 06:54 PM

On 2002-07-13 10:10, Dangerous55 wrote:

On 2002-07-13 03:34, ABDUR101 wrote:

On 2002-07-12 09:39, Greg wrote:
Your signature is stupid. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif

Fortunately, so is yours. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif

Yeah right, his sig is cool, its better then any of his others.
Ouch, that hurts. I'm not feeling the love here, guys.

ABDUR101

Jul 13, 2002, 07:30 PM

On 2002-07-13 16:37, Greg wrote:
Sorry sir, there actually are Islamic terrorists and all of them should die horrible deaths http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Ah, but be fair, you need to add some variety, where's the Columbian terrorist, the American terrorist, and all the other sorts? Lack of diversity makes terrorists sad ;(

On 2002-07-13 16:54, rbf2000 wrote:
Ouch, that hurts. I'm not feeling the love here, guys.

I love Nancy, and Nancy loves me =)

GhoStar

Jul 13, 2002, 08:02 PM

Uh if you call an official announcement a cover up then sure.

Of course there was an official announcement, although that conflicted by saying it was a small problem, yet reports from other places were saying differently.

Also the boycott of which you speak was infact stores not selling machines until the defect was identified.

Some decided to sell the machine again, others are supposedly refusing to re-order after they've got through their initial shipment from February.

Dangerous55

Jul 13, 2002, 08:08 PM

On 2002-07-13 17:30, ABDUR101 wrote:

On 2002-07-13 16:37, Greg wrote:
Sorry sir, there actually are Islamic terrorists and all of them should die horrible deaths http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Ah, but be fair, you need to add some variety, where's the Columbian terrorist, the American terrorist, and all the other sorts? Lack of diversity makes terrorists sad ;(

Because there are far more Islamic terrorists that hate the Western world? Americans not dying makes terrorists sad. ;(

Greg

Jul 13, 2002, 08:21 PM

On 2002-07-13 18:02, GhoStar wrote:

Uh if you call an official announcement a cover up then sure.

Of course there was an official announcement, although that conflicted by saying it was a small problem, yet reports from other places were saying differently.

Also the boycott of which you speak was infact stores not selling machines until the defect was identified.

Some decided to sell the machine again, others are supposedly refusing to re-order after they've got through their initial shipment from February.

Actually The problem was rather Isolated, only a few of the Xboxs had that problem. Your exadurations are pointless.

Greg

Jul 13, 2002, 08:23 PM

The islamic terrorists are the only real threat. Fucking nutbags.

ABDUR101

Jul 13, 2002, 08:51 PM

On 2002-07-13 18:23, Greg wrote:
The islamic terrorists are the only real threat. Fucking nutbags.

Hmmm...there aren't really any Islamic terrorists, because the teachings of Islam are 100% against such acts, therefore it's not "Islamic Terrorist", they are no longer considered muslim. Classifying them as "Islamic Terrorist" is putting down the religion.

They are merely terrorists, call them "middle eastern" terrorists, it fits alot better.

And my first X-box had a fault. It would'nt read certain games, DOA3 for example. The game itself was perfect, no problems with the disc, but the X-box could'nt read it correctly, causing the sound to skip/stutter(that's practically what it sounded like too, abunch of stutters). I think alot of consoles have a batch of bad ones, if you have a problem, just take it back. Thats why I never order consoles online, because it's such a pain in the ass to get it returned in good time. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

GhoStar

Jul 13, 2002, 09:36 PM

Actually The problem was rather Isolated, only a few of the Xboxs had that problem.

Enough for a media outcry, which spread overseas and into publications.

Your exadurations are pointless.

I'm simply relaying what fellow gamers who live in Japan have told me about the situation. And really, you don't have to look hard to see how Xbox is holding up in Japan. The numbers speak volumes.

Dangerous55

Jul 13, 2002, 09:54 PM

Thats because the Japanese hate any foreign games or machines. If the X-box was made by a Japanese developer it would be topping the charts.

GhoStar

Jul 13, 2002, 09:59 PM

I think it's more to do with it lacking a killer-app to appeal to the Japanese crowd. Like a completely original Dragon Quest game, that would shift a few million systems.

Dangerous55

Jul 13, 2002, 10:03 PM

True that didnt help either. Halo was the killer app for the Western gamers. But the Japanese dont like FPS's that much.

But still, notourisly they have been against foreing gaming machines.

GhoStar

Jul 13, 2002, 10:09 PM

They were against the Genesis too, mainly because that system had games that appealed to Western audiences.

Still, the Genesis did fine by being first place in the US, Europe and the rest of the world minus Japan. Hopefully Xbox can get a similar type of following. The only problem is that PS2 is already ruling all those areas and selling at rediculous rates.

[ This Message was edited by: GhoStar on 2002-07-13 20:17 ]

HAYABUSA-FMW-

Jul 14, 2002, 05:53 AM

I wonder why the Gameboy Color outsold the DC. No wait no I don't. The Japanese always get cool add ons to Japanese made consoles like the Gameboy Color's cell phone add on adapter to play Poke'mon etc. with other Japanese.

Its really a matter of what system is Japanese/popular/has a FF or DQ game/Dating or horse racing sim http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif in Japan.

As far as I know the Xbox in Japan has nothing significant(games or peripherals) that the US doesn't other than having the smaller controller from day one not having to buy another for $30 darn Micro$oft!