Caves

[Rabid]

I hate the caves but now I have to beat them.....DAMNIT! THIS FUCKING SUX!

Anybody agree?

[HUcastShinobi]

which caves? ultimate? if so, agreed...

[Rabid]

Doesnt matter what level the caves are....All levels suck because they are sooooooooo long...


Hard btw....Its not difficult, just long.....

[HUcastShinobi]

ruins are longer actually, more enemies and bigger rooms... plus the enemies are 500000000000x more annoying, or harder if its ult... damn vulmers!

[Rabid]

True...but the Ruins are funner. The Ruins actually have variety. In Caves there are like...2 or 3 different rooms......ARGH

Oh well...Im almost to the boss...just got to Caves 3 http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Fefnir]

On 2005-02-19 15:11, HUcastShinobi wrote:
ruins are longer actually, more enemies and bigger rooms... plus the enemies are 500000000000x more annoying, or harder if its ult... damn vulmers!



Yes, but the Ruins has at least some variety of interesting enemies... Caves... is just... repetitive... Enemies are all the same, either walking dolls that just try to mow you down or immobile ginormous creatures that are insanely easy to take out. And it's pretty much the same method to take out the big guys too. No challenge really. Rooms look boring, though you would expect it from a cave anyway, and the music is a bit dull and makes me sleepy. You don't even really have to fully concentrate to get past Caves.

[Eihwaz]

Yeah, Ruins is really long, but at least the rooms are cool-looking and the music doesn't suck. Revolution to the Origin Part 2 (Ruins Battle Theme) rocks. Now, if you think Caves sucks, try bringing a couple copies of Disk 6. Burning Rangers makes Caves bearable. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

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[Fefnir]

On 2005-02-19 15:22, Eihwaz wrote:
Now, if you think Caves sucks, try bringing a couple copies of Disk 6. Burning Rangers makes Caves bearable. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif


...Burning Rangers? Bearable? ..You're not being serious here, are you?


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[Skorpius]

Cave is the only interesting area in PSO. ;/ On Ultimate, at least.

:)

[HUcastShinobi]

On 2005-02-19 15:19, Fefnir wrote:


On 2005-02-19 15:11, HUcastShinobi wrote:
ruins are longer actually, more enemies and bigger rooms... plus the enemies are 500000000000x more annoying, or harder if its ult... damn vulmers!



Yes, but the Ruins has at least some variety of interesting enemies... Caves... is just... repetitive... Enemies are all the same, either walking dolls that just try to mow you down or immobile ginormous creatures that are insanely easy to take out. And it's pretty much the same method to take out the big guys too. No challenge really. Rooms look boring, though you would expect it from a cave anyway, and the music is a bit dull and makes me sleepy. You don't even really have to fully concentrate to get past Caves.



sure, easy for a lvl 80... now back to my sil dragon pwn sessions...

[Eihwaz]

On 2005-02-19 15:27, Fefnir wrote:


On 2005-02-19 15:22, Eihwaz wrote:
Now, if you think Caves sucks, try bringing a couple copies of Disk 6. Burning Rangers makes Caves bearable. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif


...Burning Rangers? Bearable? ..You're not being serious here, are you?


>.>

Of course I'm being serious. I <3 this song. It's so awesome. Besides, just about ANYTHING is better than the defualt caves music. ;_;

[Rabid]

yay I beat the caves...now I never have to go back to that Monstrosity again!

Well.........maybe I will sooner or later....No probably not...


Onto the mines!


But the ruins convo was fun http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Fanta]

You will have to if you want to open harder difficulties...=)

I dont really like caves. Ruins if fun, lots of things to fight, Belra's are my fav...

However, I like playing Mines, all the robots...just dont like the Canadines...damn them...

[derBauer]

I hate the jungle. Why the hell would anyone want to play it again?

[HUcastShinobi]

its called the forest dumbass...

[Orange_Coconut]

Erm, actually, Episode 2 has the Jungle in it.

Anyways, I am not that big of a fan of the Caves, but I like Caves 2. I also like the items that drop in the caves for almost all of my characters. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Caves 1 is probably the most boring thing about the Caves, aside from a lot of Vulmers/Sharks and Lilies. I don't mind them though, the lilies aren't really even a problem in N-VH if you're an android. They're generally not a problem anyways, until Ult that is.

Caves 3 is kind of cool, I think that's the one map I often get lost on (yeah, I know, laugh it up). But I like it. Pretty much anything aside from Caves 1.

[RicoRoyal]

On 2005-02-19 16:32, HUcastShinobi wrote:
its called the forest dumbass...


Episode I
Forest
Caves
Mines
Ruins

Episode II
VR Temple
VR Spaceship
Gal Da Val Island:
-Jungle
-Mountains
-Beach
-Central Control Area
Seabed

Your ignorance is not an excuse to flame others, HUcastShinobi. Do not do it again.

EDIT: Congrats on getting out of Caves, Rabid.



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[Fefnir]

On 2005-02-19 16:42, Orange_Coconut wrote:
Caves 1 is probably the most boring thing about the Caves, aside from a lot of Vulmers/Sharks and Lilies. I don't mind them though, the lilies aren't really even a problem in N-VH if you're an android. They're generally not a problem anyways, until Ult that is.


Ooo, I forgot how fun the Caves were in Ultimate... Seeing all your friends all drop dead because of that one lily you forgot that was in the corner... Then entering a room filled with those little buggers... 'Twas fun seeing everyone run in circles just trying to dodge those things.

[Nai_Calus]

Caves sucks shit.

Megid sucks shit too, both from monsters and from yourself. That crap isn't even freaking real Megid!

Caves also looks nothing at all like a real cave. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif Even a real cave WITHOUT the fucking awesome formations you see in the ones they make you pay to get into is more interesting to look at.

Also, it's time to pull up the lava issue again. In real life, if you got that close to lava, you'd be fucking DEAD. Heat, fumes, etc... http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif

[Orange_Coconut]

Yeah, they should've had it with stalagmites and stalacttites with crystals/gems in the walls. Probably areas where there are little streams flowing in from the walls into either puddles or tiny ponds underground.

Maybe start from you going into the caves transferring from a forest-like area, then actually going deeper and deeper. So the second area would look more like dirt walls, and tunnels. Mole enemies, I dunno. That would've been a cooler idea.

[Fefnir]

On 2005-02-19 17:16, Ian-KunX wrote:
Caves also looks nothing at all like a real cave. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif Even a real cave WITHOUT the fucking awesome formations you see in the ones they make you pay to get into is more interesting to look at.

Also, it's time to pull up the lava issue again. In real life, if you got that close to lava, you'd be fucking DEAD. Heat, fumes, etc... http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif


Well, the Caves has doors and lights in it, does it not? So it's safe to assume that the Caves were altered by people, who had probably knocked down the formations to assure safety...

Or the developers were just too lazy to put it in the game. Who knows?

And well, they kinda had to take out the heat and fumes factor, considering you wouldn't even be able to play in the Caves if you did roast to death. It's just a video game too, and it takes place in the future... Doesn't have to be necessarily true...

Well, whatever.

[PJ]

On 2005-02-19 17:16, Ian-KunX wrote:
Also, it's time to pull up the lava issue again. In real life, if you got that close to lava, you'd be fucking DEAD. Heat, fumes, etc... http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif



XD

Why didn't I ever think of that... >_>;;;

Maybe a HUmar could survive, but a HUnewearl? They're practically naked! http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

Caves is just unbearably boring. It doesn't help that when levelling up new characters offline, that Ult caves is actually pretty tough until the mid-70's/Force http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif

[Wyndham]

On 2005-02-19 18:30, SUPAH_CHAO wrote:


On 2005-02-19 17:16, Ian-KunX wrote:
Also, it's time to pull up the lava issue again. In real life, if you got that close to lava, you'd be fucking DEAD. Heat, fumes, etc... http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif



XD

Why didn't I ever think of that... >_>;;;

Maybe a HUmar could survive, but a HUnewearl? They're practically naked! http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

Caves is just unbearably boring. It doesn't help that when levelling up new characters offline, that Ult caves is actually pretty tough until the mid-70's/Force http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif




well, thanks for the enlightenment. *looks at Photondrop's character sig* you're right, kind of!

[Rabid]

Jesus Christ....I didn't know my thread would be this popular...lol


The Forest is my favorite level....Its simple enough but you get a good quality of exp out of it. Also, its short so you don't have to spend 2 hours on it. I can make 5 run thrus or so, find a good amount of stuff, and get a level or 2.

[Nai_Calus]

Mmm, they'd both be fucked. HUmar actually probably sooner. Think. Their outfit covers the entirety of their body except for the head. I mean... Ow. Sweaty.

Mmm, I probably wouldn't want to smell one after a hard day of monster-slaying. Though, I doubt a HUnl would smell any better. XP

[AYY-BEE-CEE]

Hmmm I'm probably one of the only few people who like caves - indeed, the enemies are easy to kill which makes it nice and satisfying when you send a hoard of sharks/vulmers to their graves, there are the rare enemy bonuses that are nar/mil lily and pouilly slime, my ID (Redria) gets good drops in the caves, you can get good xp from a run through caves, and (finally) it's at a difficulty level which means I can't work through rooms in a matter of seconds but which allows me to kill without death being a great threat (well, providing the lilies aren't around :S ).

Ruins I don't like because it's too dark - not literally - but just the dodgy-looking enemies, the room designs with bulging organs in the walls, purple decor and liquid nitrogen seeping from the walls, and also the music which adds to the whole darkness which leaves you feeling uncomfortable further. Oh yeah, some of the enemies are buggers too (e.g. delsaber, indi belra).

All this from a game? Christ!

[space_butler]

delsabers are only evil in numbers when they jump at you in dark rooms. its just mean when they do that. the only truly evil thing in ruins in those damn gran sorcerers with thier megid of doom.

[PJ]

On 2005-02-19 22:32, Ian-KunX wrote:
Mmm, they'd both be fucked. HUmar actually probably sooner. Think. Their outfit covers the entirety of their body except for the head. I mean... Ow. Sweaty.

I did think of that, but there might be some kind of protection in that suit, ya know?

But until ST confirms anything, I guess they're roasting >_>;;;

[Wyndham]

On 2005-02-20 06:07, SUPAH_CHAO wrote:


On 2005-02-19 22:32, Ian-KunX wrote:
Mmm, they'd both be fucked. HUmar actually probably sooner. Think. Their outfit covers the entirety of their body except for the head. I mean... Ow. Sweaty.

I did think of that, but there might be some kind of protection in that suit, ya know?

But until ST confirms anything, I guess they're roasting >_>;;;



I think those round things in the costumes hold handheld cooling units.
and that I suck.

[Eihwaz]

Yeah, I imagine the Hunters are equipped with some kind of temperature statis thing. Probably in their armor or something, so they can survive burning heat or icy coldness.

[Wyndham]

and Newmans probably have better temperature tolerance.
or else HUnewerals couldn't dress like that.

[space_butler]

On 2005-02-20 12:43, Oran1324 wrote:
and Newmans probably have better temperature tolerance.
or else HUnewerals couldn't dress like that.

maybe they're just stupid?

[Wyndham]

On 2005-02-20 12:45, space_butler wrote:


On 2005-02-20 12:43, Oran1324 wrote:
and Newmans probably have better temperature tolerance.
or else HUnewerals couldn't dress like that.

maybe they're just stupid?



nah.

[Notos]

I found this in item database.
Environmental Thong MKIV
+0 DEF
+0 EVP
+100 EFR
+100 EIC
13 Stars
Newman Only
I think that explains everything. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

It seems like every ep1 stage has something going on for them except for caves. Forest is short and easy. And if you're lucky, you get to meet megid bear. Mines is fun with Sinow!!! There's nothing like a ton of metal leaping toward you at 100 km/h. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif And of course, ruins is great for drops. Plus delsaber, bringer and sorcerer (oh my) never gets boring. Then there's the rapid rocket punch belra. Caves is just long with annoying enemies. Waiting to kill slimes and pan arms will make you fall asleep. Sure, there are megid flowers. But once the shock factor of 1 hit kill wears off, they are just like their poison spitting counter part. It's so boring that I actually dozed off once and ate a megid while trying to finish the caves.



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[SJ]

On 2005-02-19 16:32, HUcastShinobi wrote:
its called the forest dumbass...


Although someone has probably corrected this (i havnt read all of the topic), it's an area in ep2.
And shinobi, don't rush in and insult someone like you always do, because you dont know best.