Sealed J vs. Red Sword

[CrazyJ]

While looking through the stats for fully grinded weapons and noticed that a fully ground Red Sword has higher ATP and ATA boosts than the Sealed J Sword. It's also far easier to get and more likely to have %'s on it. Granted the Sealed J has the Hell Special Attack, but how often is that gonna work anyhow?

So I ask, what's the benefit of hunting the Sealed J Sword? Is it just for collector's purposes?

-- J

[Ice_ryu]

Unsealing it and then having the TSUKIRIMIRI JSWORD which grinded +50 is the best sword in the game by alot

[AxelgearVII]

What Ryu said. Its got the second best atp boost in the game just under Dark Flow. And since Dark Flow is 1.Unattainable and 2.No combo attacking, TJ Sword > Dark Flow

[Neith]

Sealed J looks kick ass, Ive now come to realise that my beloved Red Sword is fugly. On topic, the SJS is worse generally, but unseals into the Tsumikiri, which adds more ATP than the RS, and grinds to 50. That's why it's so hard to get http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Joltox]

Yeah, the darned Gi Gue dropped a red box once and then I remembered that I was a different section ID. Curses!!!! It was only Gi Gue's body. Which is not bad by the way. My Ramarl has fun using it!! http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif
But, anyway, I've given up. I'll just let fate dictate when I get the sword.

[CrazyJ]

cool, thanks for the info guys. I didn't see the stats for the TJ Sword in the printable pdf file, but I figured that maybe it had better stats.

The only problem though is it'll take a player forever to get one. I love my Red Sword though, even without any %'s

-- J

[Ice_ryu]

I'd settle two with a red sword, but i have no luck in finding one.

[PJ]

On 2005-03-16 07:25, Ice_ryu wrote:
Unsealing it and then having the TSUKIRIMIRI JSWORD which grinded +50 is the best sword in the game by alot



a) Useless Special. Although it LOOKS nice, it's not nearly as useful as unreduced Hell special (Sealed JSword)

Actually, that's about the only reason. Plus, what are the odds you can get Hit%s on a Sealed J? (I'm not talking to Blitz http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif ) Any other sword is a million times easier to find.

Although it makes me a hypocrite with Hit%s not mattering much, since they really don't, but a lot of people demand it.

[CrazyJ]

On 2005-03-16 12:38, SUPAH_CHAO wrote:

Although it makes me a hypocrite with Hit%s not mattering much, since they really don't, but a lot of people demand it.



Are you kidding? A Red Sword with hit % would be a monster. Hit % DOES matter on swords (not so much on things like Frozen Shooter/Red Mechs/Yas's)

-- J

[hucasts_rock]

On 2005-03-16 12:53, CrazyJ wrote:


On 2005-03-16 12:38, SUPAH_CHAO wrote:

Although it makes me a hypocrite with Hit%s not mattering much, since they really don't, but a lot of people demand it.



Are you kidding? A Red Sword with hit % would be a monster. Hit % DOES matter on swords (not so much on things like Frozen Shooter/Red Mechs/Yas's)

-- J


I have a Red Sword with hit, and I'll take it over a TJ any day.With both max grinded, a Red Sword +52 and TJ +50 have about an 8 ATP difference, with TJ having more, and TJ has a higher minimum damage as well. And the Red Sword's special is remarkable, too. I like to think of it as the Hunter's version of a Spread Needle, but with a LOT more power. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

But yeah, being a HUcast and all, he needs as much hit as possible, because I miss quite often on him. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif



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[Blitzkommando]

I have both swords with hit. Both have very usefull specials. Red Sword actually will have more ATP than any weapon in the game with a 4xPhoton Blast combo. SJS is nicer even without hit in the respect it does not have near the ATP variance of Red Sword. However, this also means that if you find a Red Sword with percents it will increase the damage potential more than any other weapon as well. Red Sword is great against most biological lifeforms with the paralyzing special. This is great on groups. SJS on the other hand has a special more suited to Episode 2 (though I must admit I have killed a great deal with Hell in Episode 1). Basically, both swords have advantages and disadvantages. Go with the one you have, afterall, you can always use what you have to search out what you don't.

[DezoPenguin]

Um...you guys do remember that Red Sword has, what, about a 300+ point (I'm too lazy to look up the numbers http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif ) variable ATP swing, right?

[Neith]

Kef did the courtesy of putting me straight on that one, ungrinded it ranges between 400-611ATP per swing, so damage varies immensely. Plus, I havent found the special useful at all, Id rather use my Chain Sawd for the Gush attack.