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Ryna
Apr 8, 2005, 11:49 AM
The Minhiro page was updated today:

http://www.sonicteam.com/psogc/minhiro/event/event65.html

It seems we will be to find Sinow Beat+, Madam's Umbrella+, Rika's Claw+, and Sonic Knuckles+ starting on the 12th.

Also, the stats on several cards are being changed.



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Skorpius
Apr 8, 2005, 12:47 PM
Oh, cool. Thanks Ryna.

Ryna
Apr 8, 2005, 12:54 PM
For anybody that is curious, here are the database links to the cards:

Sinow Beat+:
http://www.pso-world.com/items.php?op=viewarticle&artid=1843&version=v4&sortby=name

Madam's Umbrella+:
http://www.pso-world.com/items.php?op=viewarticle&artid=1999&version=v4&sortby=name

Rika's Claw+:
http://www.pso-world.com/items.php?op=viewarticle&artid=1853&version=v4&sortby=name

Sonic Knuckles+:
http://www.pso-world.com/items.php?op=viewarticle&artid=1854&version=v4&sortby=name

These cards look like they could be useful.

Skorpius
Apr 8, 2005, 01:28 PM
Sinow Beat+ and Sonic Knuckle+ seem to be the only realistically usefull cards. I can see a Sinow Beat team deck, using 2 Sinow Beat+ and 4 Sinow Beat, and a Silfer/Saligun Mag & Assist deck with Sonic Knuckle+.

Ryna
Apr 8, 2005, 01:34 PM
What do you think of the new card stats (see front page)? How will they effect your deck strategies?

Skorpius
Apr 8, 2005, 02:08 PM
I'll rate them, too.
1 - Good
2 - No opinion
3 - Bad


Cross Scar: (1)
HP: 6 -> 8
AP: 1 -> 3
TP: 0 -> 4

Daggers of death. On Silfer, these will own pretty much anything. I guess this was necessary since Blade Dance was pretty much a less costing Cross Scar. 4 TP? Haha, I can finally make the stupidest deck possible. Tech casting daggers XD (Yes, double strike works on techs if you use the assist card Permission).


Guld Milla: (2)
HP: 10 -> 9
AP: 0 -> 2

I don't get it. The card sucks anyway, it's too high-costing to even be worth using. I guess 2 AP will make it more usefull than before.


St. Rappy: (3)
HP: 13 -> 9
AP: 7 -> 6

Uhm, all right. They should have made this 4 cost if they were going to narf it by 4 HP. Nothing really different here AP wise. It will still serve its purpose in my Rappy deck, I guess, but that HP chopoff hurts a little. I guess Inherit was a little too much with 13 HP?


Mil Lilly: (1)
HP: 4 -> 7
AP: 1 -> 2
TP: 2 -> 3

Well, what do you know? Mil Lily is finally worth using outside of Major Death. ;D Fear my Zonding Mil Lily!


Damage Blow: (1)
Cost: 4 -> 2

Baranz will now pwn you even harder.


Attack 6: (3)
Cost: 2 -> 3

Beat > Heavy Attack > Attack 6. This was the most worthless card change. Attack=6 wasn't that dangerous..


Hand Break: (1)
Cost: 3 -> 2
AP: 0 -> 1

Colors: not red or blue

I honestly have no idea what this means. Does this mean it can't be blocked anymore? If so, then coolness. Also, this was made to be usefull now, with 2 cost and 1 AP, it will probably be nice to use at the end of a special attack combo (like SH attack ;o)


Snatch: (1)
Cost: 3 -> 1

And now, for Endu's "All your EXP are belong to me" trick.


Penetrate guard: (3)
Cost: 3 -> 2
HP: 2 -> 1

This became less usefull for non-Penetrating attacks.


Fix: (3)
Cost: 2 -> 4

I will now go cry in the corner. 3 cost would have sufficed. My Endu deck has finally gotten its first official narf.


Heavy Fog: (2)
Cost: 2 -> 3

Uh, ok. Not sure how this was dangerous.


Only thing I greatly disapprove of is that Rio and Peko are still very unbalanced in a bad way.
Rio needs 3 AP.
Peko needs 3 TP.
And if that doesn't happen soon, then I'll just have to pout some more.

Waylander11
Apr 8, 2005, 06:32 PM
on ragol.co.uk there is something about del rappy becoming avaible in vip is it true?

Ryna
Apr 8, 2005, 08:21 PM
On 2005-04-08 16:32, Waylander11 wrote:
on ragol.co.uk there is something about del rappy becoming avaible in vip is it true?


There has been nothing on the official sites about Del Rappy being available in card auctions. I kind of doubt that it would be true.

Hustler_One
Apr 8, 2005, 09:05 PM
cross scar = holy crap

how would you apply these new card stats?

Ryna
Apr 8, 2005, 09:14 PM
On 2005-04-08 19:05, Hustler_One wrote:
cross scar = holy crap

how would you apply these new card stats?


What do you mean? Sonic Team has the power to change the stats on cards for online play.

Skorpius
Apr 8, 2005, 09:21 PM
Permission allows -anything- to cast Techniques.

Double Attck effects Tech Attacks.

Silfer - 1 TP
Cross Scar - 4 TP (+1 Assist)
Dengeki - TP assist ;D
Rati - 4 TP (+1 Assist)
Simple Tech - 2 TP

That's 13 x 2 on something XD

Hustler_One
Apr 8, 2005, 09:22 PM
On 2005-04-08 19:14, Ryna wrote:


On 2005-04-08 19:05, Hustler_One wrote:
cross scar = holy crap

how would you apply these new card stats?


What do you mean? Sonic Team has the power to change the stats on cards for online play.


ahhh damm it. i don't play online x.x

Skorpius
Apr 8, 2005, 09:40 PM
I misread and now I feel stupid.

Ryna
Apr 9, 2005, 07:13 AM
On 2005-04-08 19:40, Skorpius wrote:
I misread and now I feel stupid.


It is ok Skorpius. The question was a little bit ambigious. That is why I asked for clarification.

Chibi_Neo
Apr 9, 2005, 09:07 PM
I'm so glad that Fix got adjusted; it really screwed up my battles the way my low-cost, high-AP deck would be... completely worthless when an Endu-user used Fix so cheaply. Especially when it was the first time this card had been demonstrated to me... the mistranslation screwed me up so bad...

However, when I saw that Dice +1 was changed, I shed a tear. =X.x=

And... why does the Sonic Knuckles+ card have +6 TP? =o_O= That's... scary.

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Skorpius
Apr 10, 2005, 04:42 AM
On 2005-04-09 19:07, Chibi_Neo wrote:
completely worthless when an Endu-user used Fix and my stratagy was destroyed.

Yes, I take offense to you calling me cheap. ;o

Renamon
Apr 12, 2005, 07:37 AM
It seems there are more cards been released in addition to the 4 mentioned

So far, I can comfirm : Recon+, Meteor Smash+, Chao+ and Indi Belra+.




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Ryna
Apr 12, 2005, 09:31 AM
On 2005-04-12 05:37, Renamon wrote:
It seems there are more cards been released in addition to the 4 mentioned

So far, I can comfirm : Recon+, Meteor Smash+, Chao+ and Indi Belra+.


I believe Chao+ has been available for a while now...

Anyways, I remember seeing that the rarity on some of the cards, such as Standstill Shield+, were going to be lowered.

Please post any other new cards that you find.

Also Renamon, what is your character's level?

Renamon
Apr 12, 2005, 09:44 AM
On 2005-04-12 07:31, Ryna wrote:

I believe Chao+ has been available for a while now...

Anyways, I remember seeing that the rarity on some of the cards, such as Standstill Shield+, were going to be lowered.

Please post any other new cards that you find.

Also Renamon, what is your character's level?



My character is Lvl 139, but will increase as i reiz bash for the next hour.

Chao+ was available during last yr's christmas season, however, i never encountered it again since that time. Now it had resurfaced, I had a feeling that Sonic team had lowered rarity for all SS cards with the golden background.


"Update"
Just recieved Nano Dragon+

My theory seem to be right http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif






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Ryna
Apr 12, 2005, 11:15 AM
I played a few battles while eating lunch and received the following: Umbrella+, Indi Belra+, Recon+, and Sinow Beat+

I wonder if it is possible to get 100% now?



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Renamon
Apr 12, 2005, 11:25 AM
100% is possible, if you managed to get those uber rare N4,N3 cards. Those cards are driving me crazy!

Well, another hour of reiz bash, here i come...

Ryna
Apr 12, 2005, 11:27 AM
On 2005-04-12 09:25, Renamon wrote:
100% is possible, if you managed to get those uber rare N4,N3 cards. Those cards are driving me crazy!

Well, another hour of reiz bash, here i come...


The uber rare N4,N3 cards should be fairly easy to get. Which ones are you missing?

Renamon
Apr 12, 2005, 11:35 AM
On 2005-04-12 09:27, Ryna wrote:

The uber rare N4,N3 cards should be fairly easy to get. Which ones are you missing?



Missing Skip Set, Assist Trash, Homesick, Gather, Lockon 3, Mothvert.

Think i missed lavis cannon from the last few festivals, never encountered Dark flow b4.

Oh, Btw, i using Jp ver of PSO3

Ryna
Apr 12, 2005, 11:45 AM
On 2005-04-12 09:35, Renamon wrote:
Missing Skip Set, Assist Trash, Homesick, Gather, Lockon 3, Mothvert.

Think i missed lavis cannon from the last few festivals, never encountered Dark flow b4.

Oh, Btw, i using Jp ver of PSO3


I believe the Dark Flow is only available from card auction right now...

Also, I have spares of the following cards:
Assist Trash
Homesick
Lock On 3
Mothvert

I could give them to you if you want.

Also, I found a Meteor Smash+.

Renamon
Apr 12, 2005, 11:57 AM
On 2005-04-12 09:45, Ryna wrote:

I believe the Dark Flow is only available from card auction right now...

Also, I have spares of the following cards:
Assist Trash
Homesick
Lock On 3
Mothvert

I could give them to you if you want.

Also, I found a Meteor Smash+.



Hmm, if you don't mind giving them, i would be happy to get them from you. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

"Summary of recieved cards"
Indi Belra+ X 3
Umbralla+ X 3
Sonic Knuckkles+ X 1
Recon+ X 1
Meteor Smash+ X 2
Sinow Beat+ X 1
Nano Dragon+ X 1

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Ryna
Apr 12, 2005, 01:26 PM
On 2005-04-12 09:57, Renamon wrote:


On 2005-04-12 09:45, Ryna wrote:
Also, I have spares of the following cards:
Assist Trash
Homesick
Lock On 3
Mothvert

I could give them to you if you want.


Hmm, if you don't mind giving them, i would be happy to get them from you. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif


I have 5+ of each of those cards and they aren't doing much good sitting in my card back. Just PM me with a time and place to meet so I can give them to you. I'll be available afte 6 pm EST tonight.

Skorpius
Apr 12, 2005, 03:47 PM
>_>

As a note, I've obtained Madam's Umbrella+ and Standstill Shield+ in the same tournament. After that, I got jack squat.

Ayala
Apr 12, 2005, 04:48 PM
Played about 10 matches or so since the update, and have found the following SS cards:

Madam's Umbrella+
Sonic Knuckle+ (x3)
BEARS CANE+ (yes, the card is listed like that, all in caps http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif)
Recon+
Sinow Beat+
Indi Belra+
VIP Card

I'm sure I'll find more, as I just got off work a little while ago and plan to play quite a few more matches tonight.

EDIT: Added a couple new cards, including a VIP card that appeared in one of my most recent packs. ^_^ Not sure if it's appearance rate was changed with the recent update, but still a nice find regardless. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

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SLON
Apr 13, 2005, 06:58 AM
I played one tournament last night, and got Sinow Beat+ and Madams Umbrella+. Seems these are going to be very common.
As for Attack6, Skorpius, I use this quite a lot with Migiums/Hidooms in my Caves pack (whether it is good strategy or not is a different question). Having it changed to 3 points from 2 lessens its worth.

Ryna
Apr 13, 2005, 11:19 AM
I just found a Windmill+. Here is a summary of the cards found so far by everyone:

Madam's Umbrella+
Hildablue Cane+
Recon+
Sinow Beat+
Nano Dragon+
Standstill Shield+
Windmill+
Sonic Knuckles+
Indi Belra+
Meteor Smash+
Windmill+
Rika's Claw+

Skorpius
Apr 13, 2005, 11:39 AM
On 2005-04-13 04:58, SLON wrote:
As for Attack6, Skorpius, I use this quite a lot with Migiums/Hidooms in my Caves pack (whether it is good strategy or not is a different question). Having it changed to 3 points from 2 lessens its worth.

The thign with that, though, is tha you could just use Heavy Attack now, because it can be chained without having AP reduced.

Renamon
Apr 13, 2005, 11:44 AM
On 2005-04-13 09:19, Ryna wrote:
I just found a Windmill+. Here is a summary of the cards found so far by everyone:

Madam's Umbrella+
Hildablue Cane+
Recon+
Sinow Beat+
Nano Dragon+
Standstill Shield+
Windmill+
Sonic Knuckles+
Indi Belra+
Meteor Smash+
Windmill+
Rika's Claw+



I checked the visual BBS of ep3, seem like this is the entire list. Chao+ can be added to it since i notice some Jp players are getting it the 1st time.
I was hoping Sonic team release again those cards from the Rappy and "High Cost" festival. ;<

Ryna
Apr 13, 2005, 11:51 AM
On 2005-04-13 09:44, Renamon wrote:
I checked the visual BBS of ep3, seem like this is the entire list. Chao+ can be added to it since i notice some Jp players are getting it the 1st time.
I was hoping Sonic team release again those cards from the Rappy and "High Cost" festival. ;<


I have a friend that was able to get the Halo Rappy+ from a recent card auction.

Renamon
Apr 13, 2005, 12:02 PM
On 2005-04-13 09:51, Ryna wrote:

I have a friend that was able to get the Halo Rappy+ from a recent card auction.



VIP card is not easy to come by. Maybe its high time sonic team made it a little more common.

Btw, any chance counter+, slayed+ etc was released in the past? Not sure whether these are release b4..

Ryna
Apr 13, 2005, 12:29 PM
On 2005-04-13 10:02, Renamon wrote:
VIP card is not easy to come by. Maybe its high time sonic team made it a little more common.

Btw, any chance counter+, slayed+ etc was released in the past? Not sure whether these are release b4..


The VIP was supposed to be "more common" around Christmas, but I never saw anyone find one.

I think I remember Counter+ being available sometime, but don't quote me on that....

Ayala
Apr 13, 2005, 12:42 PM
IIRC, Counter+, Slayed/Thread+, and Gather+ appeared in a couple of auctions I was in around Christmas (of course, I didn't win any of them http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif)

Hopefully I'll get lucky and have something good appear when I use my new VIP card http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

Domon
Apr 13, 2005, 11:05 PM
I found most of the cards allready listed along with a Chaos Bringers Rifle+.

Zalana
Apr 14, 2005, 05:44 AM
Meh, some of those adjustments weren't even needed. Matter of fact, why even fuck with St. Rappy!?

Ryna
Apr 14, 2005, 09:37 AM
Here is another update on cards that were recently made available or had their rarity lowered:

C-Bringer's Rifle+
http://www.pso-world.com/items.php?op=viewarticle&artid=1855&version=v4&sortby=name
Chao+
http://www.pso-world.com/items.php?op=viewarticle&artid=1860&version=v4&sortby=name
Hildabear's Cane+
http://www.pso-world.com/items.php?op=viewarticle&artid=1858&version=v4&sortby=name
Indi Belra+
http://www.pso-world.com/items.php?op=viewarticle&artid=1845&version=v4&sortby=name
Madam's Umbrella+
http://www.pso-world.com/items.php?op=viewarticle&artid=1999&version=v4&sortby=name
Meteor Smash+
http://www.pso-world.com/items.php?op=viewarticle&artid=1856&version=v4&sortby=name
Nano Dragon+
http://www.pso-world.com/items.php?op=viewarticle&artid=1845&version=v4&sortby=name
Recon+
http://www.pso-world.com/items.php?op=viewarticle&artid=1842&version=v4&sortby=name
Rika's Claw+
http://www.pso-world.com/items.php?op=viewarticle&artid=1853&version=v4&sortby=name
Sinow Beat+
http://www.pso-world.com/items.php?op=viewarticle&artid=1843&version=v4&sortby=name
Sonic Knuckles+
http://www.pso-world.com/items.php?op=viewarticle&artid=1854&version=v4&sortby=name
Standstill Shield+
http://www.pso-world.com/items.php?op=viewarticle&artid=1859&version=v4&sortby=name
Windmill+
http://www.pso-world.com/items.php?op=viewarticle&artid=1857&version=v4&sortby=name

Chibi_Neo
Apr 18, 2005, 04:54 PM
On 2005-04-10 02:42, Skorpius wrote:


On 2005-04-09 19:07, Chibi_Neo wrote:
completely worthless when an Endu-user used Fix and my stratagy was destroyed.

Yes, I take offense to you calling me cheap. ;o


:< Well, yeah. Using a dangerously misprinted card for so cheap. That misprint was my unstoppable low-cost deck's downfall!

Skorpius
Apr 18, 2005, 04:59 PM
Low Cost decks fall to Red Saber, Panarms, and Virus >_>

Rianna_Type1
Apr 18, 2005, 05:10 PM
I haven't found a single + card and I have over 1022 wins. p_q

I only played like 10 matches yesterday tho'. First time playing in quite some time.

OH WELL!!!!!