Anyone understand these Ultimate Ending Screens? [Spoilers]

[Getintothegame]

Or more importantly, this one:
http://www.getintothegame.net/pso/ending_screens/pso_ult_ending_screens/capture11.JPG

I don't remember ever seeing these before, and they don't make sense! So in the end, she is alive? What about the dang storyline?!

Click here to see them all (http://www.getintothegame.net/pso/ending_screens/pso_ult_ending_screens/)



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[TheOneHero]

Wtf?! http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif

I've never seen those before either; are they BB?

[Getintothegame]

I got this specific one from PSO PC, which is Version 2 on Dreamcast. Makes me wonder if they are the same on Version 2...

Ultimate, not uraending. Uraending ones are also different. (http://www.getintothegame.net/pso/ending_screens/pso_uraending_screens/)

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[PrinceBrightstar]

I remember seeing that as well. Actually I think I have an answer. Take a closer look at that picture. She's fuzzy. That means its a transmission. And that means that it happened moments before she was taken over by Falz. Remember how all contact was lost? Wouldn't you think the first person Tyrell contacted would be his daughter?



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[Tact]

About the Uraending ones...who the hell is the guy in white with the Psycho Wand? (Last picture)

[Tycho]

Thanks for those pics, they're good.



On 2005-04-24 16:26, tactician7777 wrote:
About the Uraending ones...who the hell is the guy in white with the Psycho Wand? (Last picture)


It looks like a FOmar, but those didn't exist yet back then. But I think it's Dark Falz ("Dark Force"), noone else is supposed to be near DF's obelisk. Since Psycho Wand steals HP it could be considered an 'evil' weapon, so...

Otherwise, it might have been some legendary dude that sealed DF, that could be why he's wearing P-Wand. But I didn't study Phantasy Star history, so I'm just guessing. :/

[Getintothegame]

Actually, at some E3 or some convention, Sonic Team had plans to release V2 with the FOmar skin. There was even a video of it, but since then, I've lost it.

I wonder if anyone remembers this video?

EDIT: I've tried looking for proof and backup of this, but I couldn't find it. Maybe it was a video of the FOmar on Gamecube, with the Dreamcast action symbols? (you know, like what A is, B is, and X is on the control pad)

EDIT 2: Yeah, I was thinking of VERY early Gamecube screens. TAILS was the FOmar, very bottom of the page, not the very last one, but the second to last one and up (http://www.gamespot.com/gamecube/rpg/phantasystaronlineei2/media.html)

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[PhotonDrop]

er, is it just me or does that make it seem like your character was right behind Rico the whole time?

I mean, she was studying the pillar in Forest when Falz killed everyone, then is in Caves. So maybe Rico's spirit came back to say goodbye? (this part @ Jon) if it was a hologram I don't think Irene and Tyrell would be freaked out like that >.>

[EJ]

Those images also appear on cube when you beat Ult. But it does seems like you were just behind her when that happened. And about time you caught up it was too late.

I think the image is when you finally beat Falz and her spirit appeared before her father because her spirit does fly into the air after you defeat Dark Falze final form.

[Blitzkommando]

Oh yes, I get that ending a lot offline in both EPI&II, and Plus. I also wondered about the last picture with Rico freaking out her father and the assistant. However, I have only seen it on ultimate. I have had the other ending as well on GC both versions.

[adamgnome104]

It's not too confusing, it's Rico saying good bye.

http://www.getintothegame.net/pso/ending_screens/pso_ult_ending_screens/capture12.JPG

The picture right after that, shows her returning the the Pillar, where you can see her when you go back down to the boss. So anytime after you defeat falz and she flies off, she goes to say goodbye to her father, then goes and waits.And then when you see her, she convienyently spontanously combusts. o.O

Now, the guy in white with the psycho wand is a big WTFer. Nothing too clear, but it's speculated that he could be Dark Falz.

Something else interesting, Rico's Father, Tyrell is using the Elysion, which was from Phantasy Star 2, and the Psycho Wand that the mysterious guy has, is from Phantasy Star 4 (Or three, I can't remember)

The guy in the white looks like the hackzored black robed guy though, that you see in PSO GC lobbies a lot. Maybe it's something similar, that NPC could be related, anyone know what quests he's in.

(HOLYCRAPBIGPOST)

[Getintothegame]

On 2005-04-24 18:54, adamgnome104 wrote:
It's not too confusing, it's Rico saying good bye.


Hm... it'd be interesting to talk to Tyrell after beating Dark Falz.

I forget, when you're online, after you beat Dark Falz, does he say anything different?

Oh, and about the mystery FOmar, let's take a look at the Psycho Wand's description:

"A mysterious cane known only as the ultimate cane. Its abilities are unknown."
This could mean it was used to seal Dark Falz, or something like that.

Also, note that the Pillar Tower is glowing and it's night time in the picture.

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[PrinceBrightstar]

Let us reflect on what the Psycho wand is does...

Zio

Sure they're supposed to have no link, but then why is this wand so powerful like it is in Phantasy Star IV?

[Nai_Calus]

Or to phrase it without bad grammar and to clarify what the heck Jon is talking about for those who haven't played Phantasy Star... ^_-;

Zio is a bad guy in Phantasy Star IV, who works for Dark Force. He has a magic barrier that nobody can get through, which makes things like, say, fighting him rather difficult. The Psycho Wand is a weapon that can break his barrier.

Which makes me wonder, if the PSO PWand is similar to the PS PWand, exactly what the GM-looking dude is doing.

[RedSchwar]

Maybe since it's a VIDEO GAME they're just being symbolic xD

[Mixfortune]

Err yeah, they are in the Ult ending... and if I am actually mistaken, then some are part of the "beaten all quests" ending, which I seem to remember being completely different... either way, they are on the GC/Xbox versions as well.

Supposedly, the Xbox version of Rico "visiting" Tyrell is more ghostlike. Basically the spirit visiting them before departing, or just wishful thinking (most likely spirit departing, given Irene's reaction).

[TheAntagonist]

Wait...in one of the Uraending thngs... was that alicia baz???? You know, the forest of sorrows person.http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif

[Maridia]

What white guy with a Psycho wand? o.O I don't see anything except

1 - Rico, fighting boomas, before the explosion.
2 - Rico, looking at the pillar, before the explosion.
3 - Explosion
4 - Rico and her seksay red sword, fighting noobs http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif
5 - Rico placing a message thingie beside the pillar
6 - Rico fighting wormy with her red partisan
7 - Rico, canadines and red mechguns, yo!
8 - Rico and the cool looking door (i would assume it opens)
9 - Rico sitting and pondering the spaceship
10 - I guess this one is her AS dark falz, which is why it's so fuzzy. I saw these a long time ago on a japanese website, and I thought that perhaps it was kind of the game's little "What if" thing, where maybe Falz took someone else and she beat him.
11 - based on the above thoughts, this is either her spirit saying goodbye or her actually showing up and being all like "lol, hey dad"
12 - And this is either her hanging out at the monument, waiting for one of us to go say hi, or her hanging out at the monument going "Yay, I won, suck it, falz."

So um, yeah. guy with psychowand? Did I misunderstand? http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif

[Mixfortune]

On 2005-04-25 03:17, Maridia wrote:
What white guy with a Psycho wand? o.O
[...]
So um, yeah. guy with psychowand? Did I misunderstand? http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif



http://www.camineet.net/psoimages/page4.shtml
http://www.classicgaming.com/saturn/pso/A_Ending_Ura.html

It's listed there as the "URAENDING" video, but it's also viewable as the "complete all quests" video (complete all quests in Ult (or was it any difficulty?) and then next time you beat the game for that difficulty (kill Falz), the video will instead be this one).

The person with the Psycho Wand is in front of the Dark Falz obelisk, the last picture. Seems too much like a Lutz reincarnation, or at least some sort of Esper.

[Hrith]

Too lazeh to read all thread, but to 1st post: maybe the pic we see of Rico and Tyrell took place BEFORE our adventure, along with all the Rico images.

[PrinceBrightstar]

What if there's no way out of there?

I mean, you'd think that transporter technology would be rendered useless in such a place given that telepipes don't work. Perhaps thats the significance of that shot, anyone who goes in, can never come out. Sonic Team put a transporter down so players weren't erasing their characters each time they beat the game.

Also, do we really know how long it was between the arrival of Pioneer 2 and the explosion? What if there were a few hours?

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[Nai_Calus]

Hahah, that's a wonderfully dark, depressing thought. XD

Hehe. Be better to be killed by Falz, rather than end your days slowly dying of dehydration and starvation with nothing but the other three party members, your mag and the tortured, screaming souls of Pioneer 1 for company... http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif


Mix:

I dunno, I guess it could be an Esper, but WTF is one doing on Ragol? And when is this picture even dated? In the past whenever the spaceship that makes up Ruins slammed into Ragol? But what would an Esper be doing on it?(For that matter, depending on how far Ragol is from the Algol system, how is one even still alive? Ok, ok, cryogenically frozen a la Lutz, but still...) If it's in the present day, WTF is an Esper doing on Pioneer 2(And why hasn't the government dissected him/her and found whatever genetic fuckeries enable one to use real magic and applied it via genetic engineering to make their own supersoldiers like they're always trying to do)?

Honestly, trying to link PSO to PS is like herding cats. You just can't do it. It's references. Hell, the Psycho Wand doesn't even look right. (Which is a shame, the real thing looks a hell of a lot cooler than the PSO version) Well, I guess you can do anything if you're willing to jump through enough hoops and inconsistencies and make theories to explain your theories explaining your other theories. *points to 'Noah is not Lutz' theorists* However... >_>

And while we're at it, before anyone even tries it for whatever reason, Ragol Is Not Earth. >_> Two moons, one of them fronking huge, not to mention the EpIII worldmap looks nothing like Earth. >_>

[Tycho]

Noah? Lutz? Esper? :/

[Daikarin]

For the Ver.2 or PC endings, it shows the path travelled by Rico. She defeated the bosses, but didn't kill them. In the end, she probably was infected by D-type factor, returned to Pioneer 2 infected (with her body mutated, like Castor or the other final boss from Episode III) and Tyrell had to kill her.

The part where Tyrell kills her should happen somewhere when the hero is travelling along the ruins, before reaching Falz.

Again, this is all theory. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

[Tycho]

On 2005-04-25 06:10, Even_Jin wrote:
For the Ver.2 or PC endings, it shows the path travelled by Rico. She defeated the bosses, but didn't kill them. In the end, she probably was infected by D-type factor, returned to Pioneer 2 infected (with her body mutated, like Castor or the other final boss from Episode III) and Tyrell had to kill her.

The part where Tyrell kills her should happen somewhere when the hero is travelling along the ruins, before reaching Falz.

Again, this is all theory. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif



If that was the case, Rico wouldn't still be inside of Dark Falz, right?



Kefka wrote:

The guy in front of the obelisk ? Always thought it was Flowen. >.>
Flowen fought Dark Falz before Rico, it says so in his messages. That's what wounded and corrupted him.

[Nai_Calus]

Too bad Flowen isn't a FOmar.

And good god, haven't you ever read a single story thread here on PSOW? Half of them read like a crash course in PS history. >_>;

[Daikarin]

On 2005-04-25 06:16, Tycho wrote:

If that was the case, Rico wouldn't still be inside of Dark Falz, right?



When Flowen was infected by the D-type virus, when his team first found Falz, he wasn't eaten. He was infected, and the virus eventually took control of his body, "devouring" him.

Maybe Rico was in an early phase, like Castor or Pollux. Were any of them inside Falz's stomach? http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif

[Mixfortune]

Kef: Maybe, just seems unusual, given Irene's expression.

Ian: Yeah, wasn't really going to try even finding an excuse on ST's behalf for WHY it might be Lutz or an Esper, but given all the possibilities, the only one that seems to make sense is that it's just a lame reference. It is how PSO usually goes about things storywise anyways.

I meant it more how you explained it, that it's more of a reference, rather than an actual story link of some kind.

[Hrith]

On 2005-04-25 06:37, Ian-KunX wrote:
Too bad Flowen isn't a FOmar.How sure are you ? http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif The char in that pic doesn't look like a FOmar anyay, especially since it's a v2 screenie >_>

[Nai_Calus]

On 2005-04-25 07:53, Mixfortune wrote:

I meant it more how you explained it, that it's more of a reference, rather than an actual story link of some kind.



Indeed.

Maybe it's a clone of Lutz. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif Or maybe he's just THAT 1337. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif XD

And well, yes, Kef, it doesn't look like a FOmar either, but it looks more like a FOmar than it looks like Flowen(Who wasn't in v2 either. XP). XD

[Hrith]

Flowen was in v2 ;o

Flowen's Sword/Frame/Shield, and his message in The Retired Hunter.

Like I said to Tycho, Flowen's outfit is robe-ish (especially from behind) and him using a PW does not surprise me, for some reason. Remember NPCs don't have classes, he could be a HUFOmar for all we know.

Besides, he may not exactly look like v3 Flowen, but since this pic dates back to v2, the design must have evolved between v2 and v3.

I really want him to be Flowen ~_~ that would make sense, too.

[Skorpius]

Actually, Flowen's outfit has coattails, far from being a robe. His outfit even resembles that of a HUmar moreso than it does of a FOmar.

Also, what you said about Flowen in V2 is not an appeaarence, but just mentions of him. He was mentioned, but he isn't IN the game yet.

[adamgnome104]

Ugh, I think it's just some really obscure referance to the old Phantasy Star games. >_>

Because Tyrell has the Elysion, which was used as an important part in Phantasy Star 2.

Damn obscure things. <_<

[Mixfortune]

Taken from Ian's proposed avatars earlier (since I didn't want to bother hunting down other pictures that would have been worse, or at best, just as good).

Lutz:
http://www.iankunx.net/lutzav3.jpg
http://www.iankunx.net/lutzav4.gif

That's why I'm basically just thinking it's just some quick reference to the older games... besides... what would Flowen know about using a Psycho Wand in what seems to be an act of sealing Falz into the ship? But uh... yeah, I'm not even so sure ST bothered to make the picture "comprehensible", just some reference thrown in for the hell of it.

And chances are... if it IS Flowen... they'd avoid the white robes that are even similarly structured to Lutz's. And no, I'm heavily doubting Flowen is the next Lutz XP.

[Evil_Althena8]

I like PSOs psycho wand better than PS4's Psycho wand http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif. Yeah...it's probably some sort of Lutz incarnation...maybe it's Rune? <3

[Nai_Calus]

Assuming that AW and AUW follow the same years, then Rune would be like... 800+ years old in PSO. He doesn't really strike me as the type to go have himself cyrogenically frozen like the original Lutz, but you never know.

And if it was somehow Rune, again, how the smeg did he get there? Obviously he has some way of getting himself between Dezolis and Motavia, but there's a huge difference between going between planets and going between star systems. Indeed, we have no idea how far it is between Algol and Ragol(Or Coral, for that matter). And if it was in the past, again, how the smeg did he get there?

Of course, there's also no real reason to assume that AW and AUW follow the same years. For all we know the Coralians are survivors of Palma and number their years starting from it's destruction. Which actually would make sense given the usual thousand-year cycle(Though it still doesn't explain a Dark Falz existing that far from Algol, 2000 years after the Profound Darkness was destroyed...), since 3084 assuming AW and AUW are the same is only 800 years, but 3084 years counting from the destruction of Palma would allow for Falz to revive on time, then have 84 years to send the meteor that hit Coral and get them to come to Ragol.

Or it could be just another empty reference. ;-P

And what are you smoking? PSIV's Psycho Wand pwns all hell out of PSO's. PSO's looks cheesy and suffers from the same annoying folding up that plagues weapons like MKB and C-Sorceror's Cane. XP Which makes FOnewearls look stupid the way they stand holding Rods. XD

Oh wait, that's right. I'd forgotten the URAENDING pictures when I did my design of the human form of my HUmar's Rati, and he ended up in a sort of modified white GM costume. The GM-looking guy is Fluffy: http://www.iankunx.net/fluffytest2.gif

http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

[PrinceBrightstar]

Here's another question: How the hell did Rico get into the ruins in the first place? If she unsealed the door, why do you have to touch the pillars? Or if she didn't, how did she get inside?

[Getintothegame]

Maybe Dark Falz re-sealed them after taking her body over?

[Daikarin]

Or maybe she didn't. The player unsealed the door. And where was Rico? Maybe that picture on the V.2 ending explains it, or maybe she was somewhere else, looking for the three statues to unlock the door. In theory, the player finds them first.

[Rianna_Type1]

On 2005-04-26 07:18, Even_Jin wrote:
In theory, the player finds them first.



That makes some sense, but if that were true, she moves quite fast.

I mean, being able to stop and place all those messages around the ruins while we're both trekking through it together.

I've always thought she unsealed the door, got abducted by Falz, then the door resealed itself.

[dragoon-girl]

On 2005-04-24 16:26, tactician7777 wrote:
About the Uraending ones...who the hell is the guy in white with the Psycho Wand? (Last picture)


Can someone tell me what you mean by uraending?

[dragoon-girl]

oh god.. the story in this is so confusing http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

[Rianna_Type1]

On 2005-04-26 08:37, dragoon-girl wrote:
Can someone tell me what you mean by uraending?



All of those pictures can be seen by typing "URAENDING" on a keyboard at the title screen. At least, I know it worked on the Dreamcast and PC. I haven't actually tried it on the Gamecube.

[Skorpius]

On 2005-04-26 08:08, Rianna_Type1 wrote:


On 2005-04-26 07:18, Even_Jin wrote:
In theory, the player finds them first.



That makes some sense, but if that were true, she moves quite fast.

I mean, being able to stop and place all those messages around the ruins while we're both trekking through it together.

I've always thought she unsealed the door, got abducted by Falz, then the door resealed itself.

In V1/V2, weren't you supposed to reach the door first, then go back and hit the pillars? ;o

[Rianna_Type1]

Haha, you're a genius. I forget after not playing v2 for so long.

Well, then, that makes sense. She must have kept coming back to check while you were hitting the pillars and then entered before you.

[dragoon-girl]

On 2005-04-26 09:20, Rianna_Type1 wrote:
Haha, you're a genius. I forget after not playing v2 for so long.

Well, then, that makes sense. She must have kept coming back to check while you were hitting the pillars and then entered before you.


hm, makes more sence.. why did they change it?

Oh yeah, with the Uraending, would you also have to finish it on ulti after typing it?

[Skorpius]

They changed it for gameplay reasons.

[Rianna_Type1]

On 2005-04-26 09:48, dragoon-girl wrote:
Oh yeah, with the Uraending, would you also have to finish it on ulti after typing it?



No, you just type it on the title screen and the new credits start to roll. You don't even have to have played the game at all.

[dragoon-girl]

On 2005-04-26 09:49, Skorpius wrote:
They changed it for gameplay reasons.


but what was wrong with how it was before..?

[Rianna_Type1]

On 2005-04-26 09:54, dragoon-girl wrote:
but what was wrong with how it was before..?



It was annoying. You'd make it to the Ruins and the door was sealed. You couldn't just go back to Forest 2, Cave 2, and Mine 2 to hit the switches because the stages got reset.

You have had to go through Forest 1, Forest 2, Cave 1, Cave 2, Mine 1, and then Mine 2 all while battling all the enemies over again, just to hit the switchees, since you couldn't do it on your first go through.

Very time consuming.

Now you can hit the switches on your very first go through. And even if you didn't, the stages don't get reset. You can just jog back and hit them.

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[dragoon-girl]

ok, eather I did the Uraending thing wrong.. or it doesn't work no more, that sucks, would of liked to have seen that..



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[Tycho]

On 2005-04-26 10:10, dragoon-girl wrote:
ok, eather I did the Uraending thing wrong.. or it doesn't work no more, that sucks, would of liked to have seen that..


They told you, it's for V2, not for V3 (GC/X-Box). It shouldn't work. o.o;

[adamgnome104]

But Rico can't be running around while you're running around... she saw the gaint explosion that happened on Ragol. o_O

PSO is so confusing for a game that the main goal is to whack monsters of the head with sabers. >_<

[dragoon-girl]

On 2005-04-26 10:34, Tycho wrote:


On 2005-04-26 10:10, dragoon-girl wrote:
ok, eather I did the Uraending thing wrong.. or it doesn't work no more, that sucks, would of liked to have seen that..


They told you, it's for V2, not for V3 (GC/X-Box). It shouldn't work. o.o;


why not GC tho? why??

[Rianna_Type1]

Because, before it's release, you didn't satisfy the quota of children to be eaten for that year.

[Daikarin]

Forget it. I'm gonna dedicate myself to forgetting about this and go fishing.

[dragoon-girl]

On 2005-04-26 12:02, Rianna_Type1 wrote:
Because, before it's release, you didn't satisfy the quota of children to be eaten for that year.


what? O_o

[PrinceBrightstar]

3077 Pioneer 1 lands on Ragol. The scientific research team investigates the planet's surface, and deems it to be suitable for colonization. Construction begins on the preliminary habitat foundation, and the Central Dome is set up as the headquarters for the budding colony. Rico Tyrell is assigned to the Surface Exploration Team (in charge of survival planning and terraforming opportunities).

3081 The Alliance of Nation's power base continues to weaken due to the unending wartime carnage on Coral.

3082 Construction of the Central Dome and fortification of the surrounding colony area are completed. The colonists contact the homeworld, and send the message to clear the second colony ship to head out for Ragol. Also during this year, Heathcliff Flowen, the Deputy Commander of Pioneer 1's military forces, mysteriously disappears.

3083 Upon receiving the transmission from Pioneer 1, Pioneer 2 is launched for Ragol. An alarming number of violent outbursts increases near the Central Dome amongst the local wildlife, including new forms that are unknown to homeworld scientists. Rico Tyrell and her companions are the first to form the Hunters, a self-defense group that seeks to find the cause of these incidents and to ensure the safety of the colonists.

3084 Pioneer 2 enters orbit around Planet Ragol. Just as the ship makes contact with the Central Dome, however, an enormous explosion occurs within the Central Dome itself.


...which means the monster attacks happened before the explosion...

This blows everything we knew out of the water! Meaning she actually may have been reporting about the incidents when the central dome exploded!



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[Getintothegame]

Yeah, it's offical, they know they fucked up the storyline, and now they're trying to fix it.

Maybe they'll fix Ep3, too.

http://psobb.com/world/index.php
Oh, by the way, I like the header on the world section. It fits perfectly, since I love trying to figure out the story.

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[A-P]

I always just thought of it as Rico.

[Shadowpawn]

That timeline is errily similar to the beginning of a novel I've been writing about PSO for the past 6 years. o_O

Wow, who knew Sega was thinking that exact same thing. o_O;;;;

[Corey]

This whole thread is intresting. But, I'd like to point this out:

Actually, at some E3 or some convention, Sonic Team had plans to release V2 with the FOmar skin. There was even a video of it, but since then, I've lost it.

I wonder if anyone remembers this video?

This is true. There is still a HUcaseal model
in V2 that can be dug up. FOmar art, RAmarl art, and HUcaseal art were released before V2 was released at all.

The only way this could be wrong was if ST actually planned PSOGC before V2. Which, is pretty damn unlikely.

[darkholemind]

That does change everything Jonathen.......and now we can create countless new theories. Tis' all so confusing. Something they didn't think about though: If the Hunters are formed on Pioneer1 AT Ragol, how in the hell is it possible for the same group to have prexisted, and be on Pioneer2 when it arrives? Sure they have seven years, but Pioneer 2 was already to go. Pioneer1 just had to say where.......this is what happens when you let ST make up shit on their own. I think 90% of them were in the special ed. program in their highschool.

[dragoon-girl]

This game so confuses my small mind >_<

Ok, this is how I see it.. you're someone.. looking for someone.. killing stuff, it saves confusion from all the complicated stuff

[Rianna_Type1]

dragoon-girl, you could always eat fish! I hear it's brain food.

Perhaps if we eat enough, we'll understand the PSO story line. Let's try it together!

[Blitzkommando]

Well, let me first state this is just a theory. If I am wrong I am wrong, no need to get up in arms over it...

Anyway, my theory on that cloaked guy/FOmar whatever... I think you all have it a bit right. We know Dark Force/Dark Falz/whatever alias it is going by this time, was sealed in the ship and landed on Ragol (however that did happen I will leave up to other theorists). What at least I do not know for sure is that Falz was alone. Is it not quite possible there was one person aboard the ship at the time? Is it not also possible he chose to do so with the sole purpose of building (or just finalizing) the seals? I find it rather hard to believe the seals just kind of 'fell in place'. Someone had to put them where they are.

Which brings me back to the picture. Whomever that guy was, is it not possible he was there, to secure the final seal, the obelisk? For me, this answers a few questions at least, and makes logical sense. ST tends to like the darker stories and selfless stoies. This would fit both. Anyone who knows more about the PS storylines can probably make a better argument than mine. But please explain why I am wrong if it is so.

Also, these pictures are in PSOGC as well. The whole Rico URAENDING. I cannot remember specifics, but I know there is a certain trigger to make that the ending movie. (All quests? something basic like that)

[A-P]

On 2005-05-02 18:43, BLITZKOMMANDO wrote:
Well, let me first state this is just a theory. If I am wrong I am wrong, no need to get up in arms over it...

Anyway, my theory on that cloaked guy/FOmar whatever... I think you all have it a bit right. We know Dark Force/Dark Falz/whatever alias it is going by this time, was sealed in the ship and landed on Ragol (however that did happen I will leave up to other theorists). What at least I do not know for sure is that Falz was alone. Is it not quite possible there was one person aboard the ship at the time? Is it not also possible he chose to do so with the sole purpose of building (or just finalizing) the seals? I find it rather hard to believe the seals just kind of 'fell in place'. Someone had to put them where they are.

Which brings me back to the picture. Whomever that guy was, is it not possible he was there, to secure the final seal, the obelisk? For me, this answers a few questions at least, and makes logical sense. ST tends to like the darker stories and selfless stoies. This would fit both. Anyone who knows more about the PS storylines can probably make a better argument than mine. But please explain why I am wrong if it is so.

Also, these pictures are in PSOGC as well. The whole Rico URAENDING. I cannot remember specifics, but I know there is a certain trigger to make that the ending movie. (All quests? something basic like that)



If by Rico URAENDING you mean the ending in which it shows Red Ring Rico in the small image boxes during the credits and not you, then I know how to get it. You must beat Ultimate mode. And I think you have to be offline, but I can not verify that because I am an offline only player. You do not need to do all the quests because when I first beat Ultimate mode, I still had to complete three of them. This is for the GC version, I do not know if it like this on any other version.

I hope I have been of some help.

[ineluki]

all i know is that you have confuzzeld my small brain as i have not seen the uraending but would like to know if anyone can clear up the ep.2 ult ending with flowens and rico back to back(if anyone know what if any class, rico is)

[darkholemind]

Well the URAending shows the FOmar or at least a look-a-like, I believe he is sealing Dark Falz. Perhaps to keep him locked it requires a sacrifice?, that would explain Rico's spirit sitting there with the glowing wand(presumably the Psycho Wand) at the end of the Rico ending pictures, and if you beat her with the one of the Dark wepons, why she is sitting on the pedestal. Her spirit is guarding the graves. And her messages in the Ruins about the spaceship 'casket' and how they sealed IT in. That makes the most sense to myself.

[Sef]

On 2005-05-04 16:39, ineluki wrote:
all i know is that you have confuzzeld my small brain as i have not seen the uraending but would like to know if anyone can clear up the ep.2 ult ending with flowens and rico back to back(if anyone know what if any class, rico is)


Rico if anything, would be a HUmarl... Which doesn't exactly exist...

And just incase some don't know... Flowen would be a HUmar. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif