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Canucker
Jun 5, 2005, 01:04 PM
what are the chances of running into a rare monster?
(1/?)

TheOneHero
Jun 5, 2005, 01:06 PM
Which Ver.?

I think it's closer to like 1/512 on GC and Xbox.

Caliban
Jun 5, 2005, 01:29 PM
I think its higher.I did the fake in yellow to total 800 even rappies and saw nodda one.I heard it was in the 1/1000 range.

TheOneHero
Jun 5, 2005, 01:37 PM
On 2005-06-05 11:29, Caliban wrote:
I think its higher.I did the fake in yellow to total 800 even rappies and saw nodda one.I heard it was in the 1/1000 range.



No, it isn't that high.

It takes about 52-55 pipes on average to get a Rare Lily in the 9 lily room.

GyroidFanatic
Jun 5, 2005, 01:39 PM
1/512 on GCN/Xbox
1/256 on Blue Burst

TheOneHero
Jun 5, 2005, 01:42 PM
On 2005-06-05 11:39, GyroidFanatic wrote:
1/256 on Blue Burst



Which is fucking bull shit, (I'm not saying you're wrong, just the appearance should be higher)

Even without piping, Rare Enemies appear quite easily. ST is handing players things too easily in BB, and still most players complain it's too hard.

Saffran
Jun 5, 2005, 01:55 PM
It's higher on the beta, but that's about it. I have played almost a year and I have yet to see a Pouilly, for instance.

I have seen maybe 40 rare ennemies in one year, it doesn't strike me as much, and I have clocked about 900 hours of play.

Caliban
Jun 5, 2005, 02:26 PM
On 2005-06-05 11:55, Saffran wrote:
It's higher on the beta, but that's about it. I have played almost a year and I have yet to see a Pouilly, for instance.

I have seen maybe 40 rare ennemies in one year, it doesn't strike me as much, and I have clocked about 900 hours of play.


Well now I just feel like a dumbars.Ive got over 400 hours in and im only at 10 rare monsters.I spend a full bar of TP on a level 100 Fomarl just pipeing in and out in the fake in yellow in the room with 8 rappies and no pal rappy.Man my luck sucks.

hyperacute
Jun 5, 2005, 02:34 PM
I've clocked somewhere around the 50 hours mark on the beta (approximately a 25th of the time I've logged on GC) and have already seen 2 Hildeblues, a Pouilly Slime (without splitting), 2 red lilies (can never remember the names) and 2 blue rappies so agree that the 1/256 rate on Blue Burst is a bit too frequent for "rare" enemies. Just a pity they drop such rubbish on Hard Redria ID. Diska of Liberator anyone?

Caliban
Jun 5, 2005, 02:43 PM
On 2005-06-05 12:34, hyperacute wrote:
I've clocked somewhere around the 50 hours mark on the beta (approximately a 25th of the time I've logged on GC) and have already seen 2 Hildeblues, a Pouilly Slime (without splitting), 2 red lilies (can never remember the names) and 2 blue rappies so agree that the 1/256 rate on Blue Burst is a bit too frequent for "rare" enemies. Just a pity they drop such rubbish on Hard Redria ID. Diska of Liberator anyone?


I'd trade you a rappy's wing for that if I could lol.I've got like 8 of 'em for cryin out loud.Its a mill lily btw (I had to go check couldn't remember either)Anyone know off the top of their head what quest it was that has the most lilies?I've got to get sange.

Blitzkommando
Jun 5, 2005, 03:36 PM
On 2005-06-05 12:34, hyperacute wrote:
I've clocked somewhere around the 50 hours mark on the beta (approximately a 25th of the time I've logged on GC) and have already seen 2 Hildeblues, a Pouilly Slime (without splitting), 2 red lilies (can never remember the names) and 2 blue rappies so agree that the 1/256 rate on Blue Burst is a bit too frequent for "rare" enemies. Just a pity they drop such rubbish on Hard Redria ID. Diska of Liberator anyone?


Huh, I've seen one rare enemy on PSOBB as of yet, at level 49, with over 50 hours as well. I don't know about 1/256, but 1/384 would make more sense based on what I have heard. It makes a nice middlepoint between 1/256 and 1/512. This is only enabled because there is no piping in BB, if anything I think it was ST's intention to make it slightly easier in compensation for not having the ability to pipe. In any event, whether it is 1/256 or 1/384 or whatever it turns out to be, I thank ST for making it mathematically easier, whether or not luck allows or no.

Neith
Jun 5, 2005, 03:48 PM
Same, been playing the beta 50+hours, and Ive only had 2 rare enemies. 1 Nar Lily in a MA1 game with Kef (but it was on Kef's route, in the dark..), and an Al Rappy after 20 fake in yellow runs. Me and rare enemies don't seem to mix well.