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AxelgearVII
Jul 10, 2005, 07:25 PM
I know Joren is unobtainable on US BB but is it on JP BB? Im pretty sure the answer to that is no but I just want to make sure. Since there are no enemies that drop it, where would it possibly come from? If it were a quest item would'nt that make it too common? I know that theres a 3rd Episode 4 boss called Shambertin that is featured in a quest. Maybe they can change its item drop to Joren? I dunno. Theories anyone? Im anxious about this particular item.



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Jack
Jul 10, 2005, 07:34 PM
I'm not convinced we've seen all of Episode IV yet. After all, we didn't find out about the Control Towers in Episode II until a while after the game was released, and there's got to be more than three areas to it. There's also no Machine type enemies in Episode IV, which seems odd. My bet is if nothing drops it now, there could well be a new area ready and waiting where it can be dropped.

Tycho
Jul 10, 2005, 07:41 PM
It's called 'Shouren', is not available yet in any version, and will probably be added to one of the holes in the existing dropcharts. Expect it to be as rare as Guren, or even slightly moreso.

AxelgearVII
Jul 10, 2005, 07:49 PM
On 2005-07-10 17:41, Tycho wrote:
It's called 'Shouren', is not available yet in any version, and will probably be added to one of the holes in the existing dropcharts. Expect it to be as rare as Guren, or even slightly moreso.



Shouren eh? Thats a a cooler name than Joren. Which hole in the dropchart might you be reffering to? Im sure you don't have any solid info so just keep in mind this is all theoretical.

Cynric
Jul 10, 2005, 08:09 PM
On 2005-07-10 17:41, Tycho wrote:
Expect it to be as rare as Guren, or even slightly moreso.


Or exponentially moreso. ST could pull another Yasha with Shouren's drop.

Arislan
Jul 10, 2005, 08:52 PM
Could have sworn I changed that in the Database... The crosslinks on Guren and Jizai were both correct. Ahh well, fixed now.

Tycho
Jul 11, 2005, 03:14 AM
How should I know? They never made/did/announced it yet. >_>
It has 10 stars, so a drop worse than 1/21.3 would be ridiculous. But if I were to take a guess at where it would drop... See the gaps for Greenill/Yellowboze VH Dorphon Eclair, and how Greenill is not that good yet at the moment?

Neith
Jul 11, 2005, 06:02 AM
>_> Greenill ey? Please, please be Greenill... Those gaps need filling, especially the Dorphon Eclair one.

The annoying that about that is then I have the ID's for Sange, Yasha, Guren, Shouren...which twin sword to go for!

Garm
Jul 11, 2005, 06:11 AM
On 2005-07-11 01:14, Tycho wrote:
See the gaps for Greenill/Yellowboze VH Dorphon Eclair, and how Greenill is not that good yet at the moment?


If they gave Greennill more exclusive drops it would be a better ID, look at what they're doing to purplenum >_< ST is screwing up balance even more =/
(Greennill doesn't have a single exclusive drop in EP IV http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif)

Zarbolord
Jul 11, 2005, 06:26 AM
I like whitill, even though it's not the best...

Garm
Jul 11, 2005, 10:42 AM
On 2005-07-11 04:26, Zarbolord wrote:
I like whitill, even though it's not the best...



It is... IMO

Tycho
Jul 11, 2005, 10:57 AM
On 2005-07-11 04:02, UrikoBB3 wrote:

The annoying that about that is then I have the ID's for Sange, Yasha, Guren, Shouren...which twin sword to go for!


I say S&Y for bots, maybe Jizai for fleshies. Jizai's special had better be unreduced though.

Neith
Jul 11, 2005, 11:23 AM
I was gonna go with S&Y, just because I like the look of them, and I've always liked the katana-class/twin swords. Having a 'bit of both' just made S&Y seem really nice. Jizai does look incredibly good, judging by the stats, so I am tempted. Decisions, decisions...

Personally, I think Jizai's special will be unreduced, being an immensely powerful 12-star. Could be wrong though http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif

PJ
Jul 11, 2005, 11:28 AM
What is the special of Jizai? Geist?

(That'd be so awesome, although I'd be the only one to think so)

Haha, Axel with S&Y on GC, Jizai on BB. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

Neith
Jul 11, 2005, 11:32 AM
http://www.pso-world.com/items.php?op=viewarticle&artid=2194&sortby=class

According to that, Hell. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif

AxelgearVII
Jul 11, 2005, 04:14 PM
On 2005-07-11 09:28, SUPAH_CHAO wrote:

Haha, Axel with S&Y on GC, Jizai on BB. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif



That's the plan PJ.http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif But in case Shouren doesnt get released before its time for PSU to come out, Im still plan to hunt Yasha. I actually need the Gush special this time around. =