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RoninJoku
Aug 12, 2005, 01:58 AM
A rather small update... The character page was updated today on the official JP site... It looks like they added the newman Mirei (who wasn't listed on that site before) and a completely new character know as Lou... And it appears shes a droid! o.o Although she doesn't look like one... But that's about all I can read... Too much kanji... Anyway, go check it out...

http://phantasystaruniverse.com

Cute! no?

Nai_Calus
Aug 12, 2005, 03:36 AM
I still say that Mirei looks like a "messed"-up cross between Yuna, a HUnewearl and a FOnewearl.

But eh. Horrible character design for female characters is par for the course these days, see every female character class in PSO except HUcaseal and FOmarl. >_> Then again, Newman females have always seemed to be allergic to clothing. XP

At least I can be amused by the fact that she seems to have a purple leotard underneath her non-dress to go with her purple hair. Oh look, Rolf bought Nei some new clothes finally. XP

Also, why the "heck" is literally half the cast 17? O_o;;; There ARE other ages, ST. XP 15, 16, 18, 22, 1, good old ??, etc...

http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif

EDIT: Post edited for profanity

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Skuda
Aug 12, 2005, 03:41 AM
yes, lou is a cast. and looks to me like a gunner.

Rubesahl
Aug 12, 2005, 02:05 PM
lol I find the char design just fine http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif She looks really pretty http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

DarK-SuN
Aug 12, 2005, 11:24 PM
The 17 years old part is a japanese thing, if you check most Japanese created RPGs the main character is always around 17 years of age (sometimes younger, very rarely older, and when the main character is older it's rarely over 20).

If you check info on Rogue Galaxy (by Level 5), you'll notice that the main hero, Jester Rogue (and part of the crew that acompanies him), is also 17 years old.
http://www.the-magicbox.com/0508/game050810c.shtml
A link about Rogue Galaxy for the curious ones and even the ones who want to confirm what I said.




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Nai_Calus
Aug 13, 2005, 01:40 AM
The main character, sure, but not the entire freaking cast. XD

It wouldn't be so bad if they were an assortment of teenage ages, but it's just creepy that they're ALL 17. >_> One character going through the whole angsty teenager growing up over the course of the game thing is more than enough. XP

Though, I wonder about the growth rate and lifespan and such of PSU Newmans if Karen is supposedly training Ethan and she's ALSO 17.

And I wouldn't mind Mirei's design so much if she wasn't pulling the whole 'let's rip off half the RPG characters in existance' thing. XP

kazuma56
Aug 13, 2005, 02:58 AM
well isn't that beastman dude like 20+? I could be wrong but I could've swore he was riding a hovercraft with what I assume is his son in the trailer... and that cast (renvault I think his name was) looks like he'll be over the 17 mark.

Getintothegame
Aug 13, 2005, 03:23 AM
We've got the characters covered in our PSU Information Page (http://www.pso-world.com/psu.php). http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

Leogini is a beast, he is 31. It may not be out of the question that it was his son, seeing that he is definatley old enough to have kids.

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SubstanceD
Aug 13, 2005, 07:36 AM
Interesting.

In regards to Lou, does this mean that the Casts will now look more human.

Rubesahl
Aug 13, 2005, 10:13 AM
On 2005-08-12 23:40, Ian-KunX wrote:
And I wouldn't mind Mirei's design so much if she wasn't pulling the whole 'let's rip off half the RPG characters in existance' thing. XP



Because she uses a "modified" kimono? >_> cause the hair is long and colorful? >_> It's a japanese game, expect stuff from that culture in the game http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif Kimonos are tradition there so I guess all the women copied from Yuna :/ And the long silky hair I mean, why not curly and short? Just like them... [sarcasm] lol I don't mean to offend honestly, just that I find it silly to critisize it for having features that are typical in the culture. It's like saying "Why do so many games in the US involve war and terrorism?" It goes with the country's culture, great example wasn't it? http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif



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Nai_Calus
Aug 13, 2005, 01:23 PM
On 2005-08-13 08:13, Rubesahl wrote:

Because she uses a "modified" kimono? >_> cause the hair is long and colorful? >_> It's a japanese game, expect stuff from that culture in the game http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif Kimonos are tradition there so I guess all the women copied from Yuna :/ And the long silky hair I mean, why not curly and short? Just like them... [sarcasm] lol I don't mean to offend honestly, just that I find it silly to critisize it for having features that are typical in the culture. It's like saying "Why do so many games in the US involve war and terrorism?" It goes with the country's culture, great example wasn't it? http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif


Oh, no kidding, kimonos are traditional attire in Japan? Gee, I never would have known that if you hadn't told me. </sarcasm> When did I say 'all women in Japan copied from Yuna'? Oh wait, I didn't, you assumed I did.

And you don't pay attention much if you think that they design characters to 'look like them'. Um, the hell? Yep, all Japanese men are six feet tall with bright blue/green/orange hair and they all carry giant swords. All Japanese women have humongous eyes and giant breasts and wear either Sailor fuku or various types of scanty clothing, with the above-mentioned bright blue/green/orange hair. XP

And I can think of several anime characters with curly hair, now that you mention it, and a couple of RPG characters as well. Not done much, but it's there. (Hey guess what, they have curling irons in Japan, too! So you'll even see real Japanese women with curly hair!)

The modified kimono thing bugs me because it makes no sense. It's like putting someone in Star Trek in a suit of armor from the middle ages. Why? It doesn't fit in. A suit of armor in the future is out of place and makes no sense. A kimono in a futuristic society in another solar system is ridiculous. 90% of Japanese games don't include Japanese cultural elements, for that matter. Most of them actually include WESTERN culture/technology, or something original. Where, for example, has Japanese culture shown up before in the Phantasy Star series? (No, the New Year's lobby decorations in PSO do not count.) Most of the names were western or made up. Lutz, for example, is a German name. Thray, for another example, is as far as I know a made-up name. Most of the clothing designs were either Sci-Fi-ish or vaguely western-inspired. So Mirei's !Kimono coming out of nowhere is just bizzare and non-sensical.

And there's nothing at all particularily original about her to redeem her design into being interesting or inspired or anything other than ludicrous, either. They combined a FOnewearl's outfit and Yuna's outfit, and then slapped it on Nei. They also went to the trouble of making it needlessly scanty, much like Karen's near-nonexistant skirt.

...Oh yeah. Speaking of which. Talk about hypocrisy in these threads. "Ewww, Ethan's stomach! Yum, Karen's ass that's about to fall out of her skirt!" Oh, so it's fine when a woman is wearing something degradingly, uselessly scanty to BATTLE in, but oh snaps, a guy's showing an inch or two of his STOMACH and suddenly it's 'zomg gross'?

Right, right, I know. I shouldn't expect taste or anything other than hormonal teenagers here. My bad. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif

Tomeeboy
Aug 13, 2005, 01:31 PM
Let's try to keep things on topic and be careful not to let the arguments go to far, k? http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

As for the characters, I think the lineup is looking pretty nice, and it will be interesting to see what kind of characters can be made with any customization options that are available.

DarK-SuN
Aug 13, 2005, 01:34 PM
Relax, guys, this is going offtopic, methinks. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

The thing is, a kimono, in a game's storyline (in PSU's case), may be a Newman female's cerimonial thing, god knows, they can come up with any sort of story reason to have her with a modified Kimono.

It's a game in a completly diferent universe than our own (it's fictitional afterall), so doing paralelisms with our own is a bit unreasonable.
I mean, gee, I don't see giant robots stomping around Tokyo (and other world regions, but primarily in Tokyo) like we do in anime and manga, yet no one complains that they're all copying from each other. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Rubesahl
Aug 13, 2005, 01:48 PM
Sorry about that >_> I was really out of line I guess :/ Anyways, in the end there's always different tastes and views http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif Again, sorry for going off topic ><; I won't even go on fighting :/

"...Oh yeah. Speaking of which. Talk about hypocrisy in these threads. "Ewww, Ethan's stomach! Yum, Karen's ass that's about to fall out of her skirt!" Oh, so it's fine when a woman is wearing something degradingly, uselessly scanty to BATTLE in, but oh snaps, a guy's showing an inch or two of his STOMACH and suddenly it's 'zomg gross'? " I completely agree with that XD

That cast looks pretty human >_> I wonder if they're more advanced than the ones in PSO? and wouldn't it be cool if guns came from her body? http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif you could customize ur own cast that way http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif



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adamgnome104
Aug 13, 2005, 03:38 PM
Yay for cute Newmans and demented RAmarl robots! o_x

I betcha she has a gaint death ray in her hat. I also love the modified Kimono! I can't wait to create characters like that!! >_<

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kazuma56
Aug 16, 2005, 05:04 AM
"...Oh yeah. Speaking of which. Talk about hypocrisy in these threads. "Ewww, Ethan's stomach! Yum, Karen's ass that's about to fall out of her skirt!" Oh, so it's fine when a woman is wearing something degradingly, uselessly scanty to BATTLE in, but oh snaps, a guy's showing an inch or two of his STOMACH and suddenly it's 'zomg gross'? " I completely agree with that XD

Hmm, *points to all those that say they play females in PSO because its "easier on the eyes"*, yep, must be coming from them.

As for the character designs, i'm fine with it, think FFX, WTF is Yuna wearing a kimono in times of flying spaceships and modified underwater sports?.

_Tek_
Aug 16, 2005, 05:54 AM
Yeah I like the clothes too.

Quo
Aug 16, 2005, 05:05 PM
One of the videos shows Mirei standing atop a pagoda like structure, so I'm guessing more than just costumes were influenced by eastern culture.

Also, there could be some plot element that forces half of the main characters to be 17. For instance in Evangelion, the three main characters were all 14 because only children born nine months after the second impact could control an Eva. Maybe PSU's main characters all graduated the same year from guardian school or whatever.



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Rubesahl
Aug 16, 2005, 06:57 PM
Wow, that's a good theory there O_o never thought of that o.o

Omega_Nova
Aug 16, 2005, 10:21 PM
On 2005-08-16 15:05, Quo wrote:
One of the videos shows Mirei standing atop a pagoda like structure, so I'm guessing more than just costumes were influenced by eastern culture.

Also, there could be some plot element that forces half of the main characters to be 17. For instance in Evangelion, the three main characters were all 14 because only children born nine months after the second impact could control an Eva. Maybe PSU's main characters all graduated the same year from guardian school or whatever.



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*Fears a Final Fantasy eight plot*

RoninJoku
Aug 16, 2005, 11:07 PM
On 2005-08-16 20:21, Omega_Nova wrote:


On 2005-08-16 15:05, Quo wrote:
One of the videos shows Mirei standing atop a pagoda like structure, so I'm guessing more than just costumes were influenced by eastern culture.

Also, there could be some plot element that forces half of the main characters to be 17. For instance in Evangelion, the three main characters were all 14 because only children born nine months after the second impact could control an Eva. Maybe PSU's main characters all graduated the same year from guardian school or whatever.



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*Fears a Final Fantasy eight plot*



lol... That pissed me off so bad...

InfinityXXX
Aug 17, 2005, 11:25 AM
On 2005-08-16 03:04, kazuma56 wrote:
"...Oh yeah. Speaking of which. Talk about hypocrisy in these threads. "Ewww, Ethan's stomach! Yum, Karen's ass that's about to fall out of her skirt!" Oh, so it's fine when a woman is wearing something degradingly, uselessly scanty to BATTLE in, but oh snaps, a guy's showing an inch or two of his STOMACH and suddenly it's 'zomg gross'? " I completely agree with that XD

Hmm, *points to all those that say they play females in PSO because its "easier on the eyes"*, yep, must be coming from them.

As for the character designs, i'm fine with it, think FFX, WTF is Yuna wearing a kimono in times of flying spaceships and modified underwater sports?.




You know, I didn't even notice ethan's stomach until you said that.lol

I mean its only a bit of his stomach its not like his buttt is showing.


For some reson, Lou reminds me of that little pink haired girl from Xenosaga. Wait a sec....all these characters kind of remind me of Xenosaga.(Except for the beastman.) Maybe its because both games take place in future space.



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