Metal Gear Solid 4 - First Pics? [Archive]

Deathscythealpha

Sep 14, 2005, 03:14 PM

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/1513/11266952590370nj.jpg

and

http://sylphys.ddo.jp/upld2nd/game2/src/1126699534613.jpg

Ok, supposedly its set slightly further into the future. Theres Mechs walking about and a Mini Metal Gear follows the player. There is supposedly images of Raiden and Otacon floating about, but I've yet to see them.

Well, this is something that has made me sit up and pay attention to the PS3. The graphics on display in those images are outstanding, they are so crisp. I cant tell if these are in game or not (I wish i could read Japanese), but either way, wow.

And again, Kojima has decided to mix things up in his game. Is this really an Old Snake? How many years really have past? How will this effect the story? Ocelot? The Partiots? So many questions! Arg! So finally a reason to buy a PS3.

Ooh, more links be here:

http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~alandaly/mgs43.jpg
http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~alandaly/mgs42.jpg
http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~alandaly/mgs41.jpg

Neith

Sep 14, 2005, 03:42 PM

Although I'm quite a big MGS fan, I think this (if it IS truely the next one), should be the last.

Unofrtunately, I never got to play Snake Eater, so I have no idea what that was like =/

You're right though, if those are in-game shots, they're awesome...

PSO_Monkey

Sep 14, 2005, 04:20 PM

If thats SS, he looks like an old fart.

Wyndham

Sep 14, 2005, 05:32 PM

On 2005-09-14 14:20, PSO_Monkey wrote:
If thats SS, he looks like an old fart.

I'm so glad someone agrees with me.
I have yet to play a MGS game, so i have a lot of catching up to do before i get it, so i can wait for PS3s to drop in price a lot.
and im interested to see the pictures of the other characters. >_>
i did watch my brother play 1 and 2, so i know some of what was going on.

Rubius-sama

Sep 14, 2005, 05:43 PM

Did you think Snake can stay young forever? The story looks like it's placed in the near future...and Snake is much older. He is more of a super-soldier now, having spent his entire life doing what he does.

Deathscythealpha

Sep 14, 2005, 06:07 PM

http://www.metalgearsolid.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3599&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

The first post on this forum has some very good infomation. Um, just try and ignore the rest of the posts as they can destroy brain cells there so dumb.

Seems the game will take place in the middle of a warzone with a constantly changing tide of war. This could be interesting, or more complex. Will eb nice to see how it actually works.

On 2005-09-14 15:43, Rubius-sama wrote:
Did you think Snake can stay young forever?

Worth quoting, as a lot of people in other places cant get over that. People age, Snake wasnt going to stay young forever, and this is a great way of showing it.

Madzozs

Sep 14, 2005, 06:24 PM

Somewhat off topic, but this reminded me of my NES. I was clearing out a cabinet that I had it stored along with my games, and I found Metal Gear for it. Like I said, off topic.

Uncle_bob

Sep 14, 2005, 08:56 PM

Keep in mind that Snake suffers from excellerated aging. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif So it may not be THAT far into the future, maybe just 10 years.

It seems CQC is mentioned, w00t! He needs a beard though. ;(

Scrub

Sep 15, 2005, 04:34 AM

Haha, the most interesting thing in that one post is that Raiden will be portrayed as 'cooler' now or whatever. >_> I really like Raiden and stuff, but most other people I know hated him, and was pissed when I showed them that he would be in MGS 4.

Outrider

Sep 15, 2005, 03:20 PM

Wow. Very impressive. And in case some people haven't heard yet, those are indeed supposed to be in-game screens. Just wow.

As for the designs, I do have a problem with the older Snake. It's not that he's older, but it's more that I just don't like his design. It looks rather uninspired. Hopefully his new age will still allow for David Hayter to do the voice.

Neith

Sep 15, 2005, 03:45 PM

To be honest, I doubt they'd change the voice of Snake, Hayter has been the iconic voice of Snake for a few years now. I mean, what would MGS be without "You mean, Metal gear?"

http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

Outrider

Sep 15, 2005, 03:55 PM

On 2005-09-15 13:45, UrikoBB3 wrote:
To be honest, I doubt they'd change the voice of Snake, Hayter has been the iconic voice of Snake for a few years now. I mean, what would MGS be without "You mean, Metal gear?"

http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

I know, I was just fooling around.

Dang it, now I'm gonna feel like I need a PS3.

EDIT: Wait a second, when did Snake lose his eye?

Maybe this isn't Solid Snake we're looking at. (Cause I think it would be a little stupid and contrived if he ended up losing his eye too.)

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Deathscythealpha

Sep 15, 2005, 04:17 PM

There's a lot of discussion about the eye thing. Most people have put their bets on it being a device and not an eye patch, allowing him to plug into the Metal Gear MK2 and see what it is seeing.

And after a discussion about the 'tache with a friend, we came to one reasoning for it. Give him a beard and he would be too similer to Big Boss. And that wouldnt be deliberate. Snake is a clone of BB, so there is a chance he would grow up to look identical to his genetic father.

And it just wouldn't be Metal Gear Solid if there was no sign of David Hayter. He has nearly as big a following at my university as Solid Snake does (we watched a film called 'Drive' just for his 1 minute cameo!).

Yeah, we are kinda sad.

The_Pea_Guy

Sep 18, 2005, 08:44 AM

Got a theory to share since this topic revolves around the Metal Gear series: Do you think it's possible that the Snake brothers could also be the offspring of The Boss, not just Big Boss?

Think about it: Why would the US Government from the Cold War era want to dispose an excellent specimen to produce excellent soldiers when they could just transfer the egg from her ovaries unto a surrogate mother?

Makes a comparison of The Boss and Liquid Snake since they both share similar features:

The Boss: http://ps2media.gamespy.com/ps2/image/article/541/541276/metal-gear-solid-3-snake-eater-20040823004101352.jpg
Liquid: http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2003/screen0/589712_20030919_screen002.jpg

[ This Message was edited by: The_Pea_Guy on 2005-09-18 06:46 ]

Split

Sep 18, 2005, 09:37 AM

More pics!!

http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Screens/ScreenShots.htm?CS_pid={69A35A0C-D5F6-4A5D-B5D0-F96DF6B23BE6}

Deathscythealpha

Sep 18, 2005, 09:50 AM

On 2005-09-18 06:44, The_Pea_Guy wrote:
Got a theory to share since this topic revolves around the Metal Gear series: Do you think it's possible that the Snake brothers could also be the offspring of The Boss, not just Big Boss?

Hmm, interesting theory. It could be plausible, they wanted the ultimate soldier, and putting both Big Boss and The Boss' DNA would surely produce those results. But were they able to retrieve her at the end of MGS3? I cant remember if they did bomb the area or not, or if the Russians took possesion of her.

Oh:

http://www.gameinformer.com/Templates/News/ScreenShotsViewer.aspx?CS_pid={69A35A0C-D5F6-4A5D-B5D0-F96DF6B23BE6}&mediaId=13

My new Wallpaper http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

The_Pea_Guy

Sep 18, 2005, 10:14 AM

On 2005-09-18 07:50, Deathscythealpha wrote:

On 2005-09-18 06:44, The_Pea_Guy wrote:
Got a theory to share since this topic revolves around the Metal Gear series: Do you think it's possible that the Snake brothers could also be the offspring of The Boss, not just Big Boss?

Hmm, interesting theory. It could be plausible, they wanted the ultimate soldier, and putting both Big Boss and The Boss' DNA would surely produce those results. But were they able to retrieve her at the end of MGS3? I cant remember if they did bomb the area or not, or if the Russians took possesion of her.

I can't say for certain -- she might have been disposed of by the Soviet MiGs. However, it might also be possible that the CIA extracted eggs from her ovaries BEFORE she executed her final mission, despite the fact that she cannot have anymore children because of her long snake-shaped cesearian after giving birth to... him. >_>

[ This Message was edited by: The_Pea_Guy on 2005-09-18 08:22 ]

SubstanceD

Sep 18, 2005, 03:08 PM

I am really, really looking forward to this game. I like what I have seen so far and I am also liking this new apocalyptic setting ( WTF happened ). It is a bit sad to see that Solid Snake has aged soo much ( it will be interesting to see how much time has passed since MGS2 ), it is looking more and more likely that this will be the last game in Metal Gear Solid series but that does not necesarily mean that it will be the last game in the Metal Gear series.

Skett

Sep 19, 2005, 12:05 AM

On 2005-09-18 06:44, The_Pea_Guy wrote:
Got a theory to share since this topic revolves around the Metal Gear series: Do you think it's possible that the Snake brothers could also be the offspring of The Boss, not just Big Boss?

Think about it: Why would the US Government from the Cold War era want to dispose an excellent specimen to produce excellent soldiers when they could just transfer the egg from her ovaries unto a surrogate mother?

What do you mean "not just Big Boss"? The Boss wasn't BB mother, just mentor who was like a mother to him.

By the way, the more common theory is that Ocelot is the off-spring of The Boss and The Sorrow.

navci

Sep 19, 2005, 01:04 AM

On 2005-09-14 15:43, Rubius-sama wrote:
Did you think Snake can stay young forever? The story looks like it's placed in the near future...and Snake is much older. He is more of a super-soldier now, having spent his entire life doing what he does.

Poor Snake. Never get to retire. The fate of an entire country always rest on his shoulder because none of the youngling is cutting it. XD

What would Old Raiden look like? :>

Scrub

Sep 19, 2005, 04:15 AM

On 2005-09-18 22:05, Skett wrote:

On 2005-09-18 06:44, The_Pea_Guy wrote:
Got a theory to share since this topic revolves around the Metal Gear series: Do you think it's possible that the Snake brothers could also be the offspring of The Boss, not just Big Boss?

Think about it: Why would the US Government from the Cold War era want to dispose an excellent specimen to produce excellent soldiers when they could just transfer the egg from her ovaries unto a surrogate mother?

What do you mean "not just Big Boss"? The Boss wasn't BB mother, just mentor who was like a mother to him.

I'm assuming that they mean that the clones not only have DNA from Big Boss in them, but The Boss as well. :3

Luis

Sep 19, 2005, 05:12 AM

he is going to be killed by a cancer if he keeps smoking at his age by now.....haha

anyhow it looks interresting.

Rubius-sama

Sep 19, 2005, 06:06 AM

On 2005-09-18 23:04, navinator wrote:

What would Old Raiden look like? :>

Think Christopher Lambert from MK1 the movie http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif
I personally don't like Raiden. Too much of a weaksauce for my taste. =/

On another note, I think they announced the new stars (http://www.students.yorku.ca/~idrisn/pirate_s.jpg) of MGS 5.

Does anyone know where I can see the TGS trailer for MGS4? Please...no Gamespot links. (they don't work for me http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

[ This Message was edited by: Rubius-sama on 2005-09-19 04:08 ]

Deathscythealpha

Sep 19, 2005, 07:28 AM

On 2005-09-19 04:06, Rubius-sama wrote:
Does anyone know where I can see the TGS trailer for MGS4? Please...no Gamespot links. (they don't work for me http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

http://www.konami.jp/gs/kojima_pro/japanese/mgs4_04.html

From the official site. At the minute I cant get it to work though.

Kojima has said he will not be coming back for MGS5, but if Konami want to continue milking the franchise, I can see him coming back (and he said the same things after MGS2 and MGS3, so he is not exactly reliable).

Edit: Man, I wish someone had recorded this trailer - http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/adventure/mgs3subsistence/news_6133819.html (Sorry Rubius, that links a gamespot one http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif )

[ This Message was edited by: Deathscythealpha on 2005-09-19 05:36 ]

rena-ko

Sep 19, 2005, 02:41 PM

hm, if that's mgs3's snake, he swapped his bad eye http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

anyway, would be cool to guide oji-chan through the levels. maybe he even comes with bad spine, cracking bones, easy fractures and sleeps 20 hours a day http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif
simulatiing all the aches of an elder person would really be a step forward from the food and selfnursing system in mgs3.

anyway, i agree. if this game doesnt just look that good but also plays accordingly, i'd seriously consider buying a ps3 in the near future.

Kizaragu

Sep 20, 2005, 02:18 PM

On 2005-09-19 12:41, rena-ko wrote:
maybe he even comes with bad spine, cracking bones, easy fractures and sleeps 20 hours a day http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif
simulatiing all the aches of an elder person would really be a step forward from the food and selfnursing system in mgs3.
I can see it now; Opening the status menu to HEAL - Uncontrollable Weak Bladder. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

On 2005-09-18 23:04, navinator wrote:
What would Old Raiden look like? :>
He can't look any worse I guess! Maybe his voice will have broken this time round?
But on a seriouse note, the man just needs some full on facial hair. Only then will he win a place in my heart.
He just needs to be more manly and cool, like our old man, Snake. (And me)

On 2005-09-19 05:28, Deathscythealpha wrote:
Kojima has said he will not be coming back for MGS5, but if Konami want to continue milking the franchise, I can see him coming back (and he said the same things after MGS2 and MGS3, so he is not exactly reliable).

Which they will sadly. People these days are obliviouse to quit while ahead. Escpecially if it's making them money by the bucket load.
It's abouyt as likely as EA saying "Maybe this year people dont want an annually slightly moderated version of last years game?" http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

But anywho, I would gladly sell my first born child to pay for the purchase of this game. As long as it plays as good as it looks mind. I'm not that shallow.

Scrub

Sep 20, 2005, 02:54 PM

On 2005-09-19 12:41, rena-ko wrote:

anyway, would be cool to guide oji-chan through the levels. maybe he even comes with bad spine, cracking bones, easy fractures and sleeps 20 hours a day http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif
simulatiing all the aches of an elder person would really be a step forward from the food and selfnursing system in mgs3.

http://oldsnake.ytmnd.com/

Anyway, more on subject, I want to know what the hell is going on with my favorite character(omg my favorite character isnt Raiden. ;3 gtfo scrub~). Revolver Ocelot. Is he still under Liquid's complete control, or what? ,_, I need to know~!

Kent

Sep 21, 2005, 09:39 PM

If any of you have watched the trailer, you'll know that that eye patch is a device, it has "Solid Eye System" written on it, and even a little flashing light.

Since this game seems to take place so many years after MGS2, it'd be safe to say that this may be the "last" in the series, but not the last MGS game to be made. They'll likely have to make one or two to fill in that game, being so large. Note that Otacon (http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/714/714044/img_3074910.html) looks like he's in his 40's now, too. How old was he in MGS2? Mid to late 20's?

Outrider

Sep 21, 2005, 11:14 PM

On 2005-09-21 19:39, Kent wrote:
If any of you have watched the trailer, you'll know that that eye patch is a device, it has "Solid Eye System" written on it, and even a little flashing light.

This is also interesting, because Metal Gear Ac!d 2 is supposed to have a peripheral of the same name.

IGN article on the PSP Solid Eye:

http://psp.ign.com/articles/651/651095p1.html

Also, maybe it's just me, but it looks like there is some sort of tattoo on Snake's face. I think it's about three minutes into the trailer, when he's pressed up against the wall and you see his profile. There's something weird on his face. Maybe it's just a texture error? I dunno.

Anyway, I've yet to see the full trailer, as the Konami website always starts bugging out about four minutes in. Bah.