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Outrider
Sep 15, 2005, 11:55 PM
http://cube.ign.com/articles/651/651275p1.html

Holy crap.

I've never been so excited and yet so scared before in my life. Just please, read through that IGN article for the demos that were shown at TGS as well as their own speculation for the types of games you can play with it.

Swinging the controller around like a sword in a new Zelda? Walking with the analog peripheral while aiming and shooting with the main controller in Metroid Prime 3? Holding two of them in each hand and actually punching in a new game of Punch Out?

The possibilities are just so cool.

This can all go terribly wrong if they go about it incorrectly, but if they do it right... I think we may be in for something really special.

HAYABUSA-FMW-
Sep 16, 2005, 12:24 AM
Thanks for the update, this is why we know you're the coolest.

I sorta thought of that, and maybe wrote it down somewhere's around here(the punch out part, heh), but hey I'm with you on this one.

Lets hope it all works out.

We've been playing games basically the same way for 20+ years right? some might say Nintendo is "off their gourd in gimmick land" but if anyone can revolutionize an industry, it damn sure will be Nintendo.

And oh yeah, our NES consoles are 20 years old already, my how time flies, seemed like just yesterday I was spending hours in Metroid's labyrinth, searching out the Mother Brain.

Check out our FKL thoughts on this issue, months ago!

http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=98857&forum=14&22

"Super Duper Punch Out!" <---- http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

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RoninJoku
Sep 16, 2005, 12:25 AM
It is a bit scary on the surface... But it is also sleek and sexy! And the possibilites seem endless! My biggest concern is the alienation of 3rd parties... However, I think 3rd parties are more interested than anything... And after hearing that even EA was excited about the possibilities (although I don't care for EA) it could mean great things for 3rd party software! Imagine what they could do with all those great features! I'm probably most confused with how games like Mario or Smash will work... Hmm... I have never been more anxious to see Revolution in action!

Spider
Sep 16, 2005, 12:33 AM
this seems really cool, but I hope it will have standard control games too, playing absolutely no games with the good ol controller would be weird.

Rubius-sama
Sep 16, 2005, 01:36 AM
I think this controller will alienate the game players rather than the game developers.

HUnewearl_Meira
Sep 16, 2005, 02:02 AM
On 2005-09-15 22:25, RurouniJoku wrote:
My biggest concern is the alienation of 3rd parties... However, I think 3rd parties are more interested than anything...

Well, apparently Yuji Naka is already fascinated by it. That tells me that getting Sonic to do a spin attack is going to be an interesting manuever in the near future.

I do have to say, this controller certainly does make the Revolution worthy of its name. This is an extreme measure on Nintendo's part, and I feel comfortable in saying that this will either shoot Nintendo back into the lead, or sneak up behind them and slit their throats.

I will say though, if you've ever watched someone new to video games try to play a platformer, or even a child try to play a platformer, then the jerking motion they make with the controller when they're desperate to properly land a jump should be a good indication that this controller just might work out nicely. For the first time in history, the quickly-jerk-the-controller-to-the-left-in-an-arching-motion manuever might actually help the player of the game.

Rubius-sama
Sep 16, 2005, 02:12 AM
Actually when I think of this new controlloer, I feel Virtual Boy nostalgia. Eep! Let's hope it doesn't share the same fate.

RoninJoku
Sep 16, 2005, 02:21 AM
IGN just posted a promo video for the control (at least i think they just posted it <.< )

It's pretty neat to watch! And it deffinitely makes me want to play! =D

http://media.cube.ign.com/articles/651/651334/vids_1.html

KodiaX987
Sep 16, 2005, 06:41 AM
It's a remote.

I don't care how much they try to pimp it a controller.

It's still a remote.

Saiffy
Sep 16, 2005, 06:52 AM
Eh, at first I was almost hoping Nintendo would crash and burn for it(Which, I still think will most likely happen). It does seem a little neat when you think about it a bit.


It won't matter as long as they let GC controllers be used on Revolution games though, I doubt they will, but we can dream, right?

Reenee
Sep 16, 2005, 09:06 AM
On 2005-09-16 04:41, KodiaX987 wrote:
It's a remote.

I don't care how much they try to pimp it a controller.

It's still a remote.



Remote controller. =

Dek
Sep 16, 2005, 09:57 AM
On 2005-09-16 07:06, Reenee wrote:


On 2005-09-16 04:41, KodiaX987 wrote:
It's a remote.

I don't care how much they try to pimp it a controller.

It's still a remote.



Remote control


Fixed http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

Anyways, I'll admit. It's decent. However, I can't see many games taking advantage of this type of controller...

Fishing games? Sure
Zelda? Lots of tweaks, but sure
Super Smash Brothers? No button for Defense, but okay otherwise
Shooters? Hell no. While the B button is a good idea for a trigger, there is no possible way to strafe unless you use the bloody D-pad at the top.

navci
Sep 16, 2005, 10:02 AM
My only concern is... game nerds standing up and move around while playing games?! It might kill them. XD

TheOneHero
Sep 16, 2005, 10:18 AM
Motion Sensor? I tell you, this was designed to make player's who suck (and throw the controller) to feel better:

"Gawd! I frickin hate this game!" *Throws controller*
"HOLY SHIT! I KILLED THE BOSS! WOO! LEVEL UP!"

No thanks. =/

Outrider
Sep 16, 2005, 11:02 AM
On 2005-09-16 07:57, Arthas_Zero wrote:
Shooters? Hell no. While the B button is a good idea for a trigger, there is no possible way to strafe unless you use the bloody D-pad at the top.



Dude, that's why there's the analog peripheral attached to it. In fact, they showed a demo of Metroid Prime 2: Echoes running with that controller. You move around with the control stick in your left hand just like you normally would in an FPS, and then you point the main remote part of the controller at the screen, almost as if it were a light-gun.

This is why I said to make sure you read the article before commenting...

Pagit
Sep 16, 2005, 11:47 AM
On 2005-09-15 22:33, Spider wrote:
this seems really cool, but I hope it will have standard control games too, playing absolutely no games with the good ol controller would be weird.



If I heard correctly, you will be able to play with a regular Gamecube controller as well.

Dangerous55
Sep 16, 2005, 12:10 PM
I don't like it. But I didn't play it. I don't need a "revolution" in my controller. I am happy with how it is.

Daikarin
Sep 16, 2005, 12:17 PM
Doesn't look very handy, especially on doing combos and stuff. This is just another way for you to get fat faster.

Naah, I'll keep as a fan of old-school designs on this one. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif

TheOneHero
Sep 16, 2005, 12:21 PM
On 2005-09-16 10:17, Even_Jin wrote:
Doesn't look very handy, especially on doing combos and stuff. This is just another way for you to get fat faster.



Or to lose weight faster.

Saiffwin sent me this link, XD

http://nintyrevcontroller.ytmnd.com/

SubstanceD
Sep 16, 2005, 01:10 PM
On 2005-09-15 23:36, Rubius-sama wrote:
I think this controller will alienate the game players rather than the game developers.



I defenetly feel alienated. There is soo much I want to say about the Revolution Controller but I am in too much shock right now too properly compose my thoughts so I will just say this. In my opinion, every single video game controller out there has to pass the Street Fighter 2 test before I will accept it as a true Video game controller and I don't think this remote control is up to the job.

Cynric
Sep 16, 2005, 01:33 PM
On 2005-09-16 04:52, Saiffy wrote:

It won't matter as long as they let GC controllers be used on Revolution games though, I doubt they will, but we can dream, right?


The slots are here:
http://www.1up.com/media?id=1901742&type=lg



On 2005-09-16 04:41, KodiaX987 wrote:
It's a remote.

I don't care how much they try to pimp it a controller.

It's still a remote.


Use your imagination:


http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/921/revo12ta.jpg
http://img270.imageshack.us/img270/5715/revo28nt.jpg

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geewj
Sep 16, 2005, 01:47 PM
I think it's a great idea.

Sure the design isn't perfect for every type of game, but think of how many possibilities this opens up.

I can't wait to play an rpg with a creative implementation of the new controller. Hell, any kind of game with a creative implementation of the new controller.

Luis
Sep 16, 2005, 01:48 PM
On 2005-09-16 04:41, KodiaX987 wrote:
It's a remote.

I don't care how much they try to pimp it a controller.

It's still a remote.



we allready know that you are stick with the old dreamcast...

Madzozs
Sep 16, 2005, 02:35 PM
On 2005-09-16 11:33, Cynric wrote:


On 2005-09-16 04:52, Saiffy wrote:

It won't matter as long as they let GC controllers be used on Revolution games though, I doubt they will, but we can dream, right?


The slots are here:
http://www.1up.com/media?id=1901742&type=lg



On 2005-09-16 04:41, KodiaX987 wrote:
It's a remote.

I don't care how much they try to pimp it a controller.

It's still a remote.


Use your imagination:


http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/921/revo12ta.jpg
http://img270.imageshack.us/img270/5715/revo28nt.jpg

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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Those images are awesome.

PhotonDrop
Sep 16, 2005, 02:45 PM
Personally, I'm intrigued by the idea, now I won't have to scramble for a weapon next time I'm attacked by ninjas!

Seriously though, I'd rather play a game with it before I judge completely. For now it looks like it has a ton of potential, I just hope Nintendo does things right with how it's used in game.

The revival of Duck Hunt?! XD

Speaking of which, why do I have a feeling that there will be a NES edition of the Revolution?

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Allos
Sep 16, 2005, 03:13 PM
I don't know how to feel...

I mean..I was expecting something out of the box but...it looks like a DVD player remote...

geewj
Sep 16, 2005, 03:16 PM
Just watch the link RurouniJoku posted earlier.

http://media.cube.ign.com/articles/651/651334/vids_1.html

It looks like a lot of fun, and very open ended.

Neith
Sep 16, 2005, 03:19 PM
I like it, though PSO looks like that'd be difficult to play with it http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

I love the idea though, about time we had something like this.

Luis
Sep 16, 2005, 04:31 PM
On 2005-09-16 13:19, UrikoBB3 wrote:
I like it, though PSO looks like that'd be difficult to play with it http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif



i dont really think so, it would be cool, if we control de player with the analog stick and target with the point device, even for techs would be cool.

And i belive what they want to do changing the controller, they are forcing the third parties to do games just for the Revolution because it wont be able to play on the other 2 systems because the diferent hardware......thats a wise marketing extrategy.

Also very important if i were Shinji Mikami, think about RE5 for the Revo, with that pointer device, i would really REALLY enjoy RE4 targeting with the pointer device, That would ROCK!

please make RE5 for the revo with that controller



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KodiaX987
Sep 16, 2005, 05:22 PM
Have you guys noticed? They now have lowercase buttons. That's right:

A, a, B, b

Imagine the problems this would cause in games, especially for voice actors ("press on the lowercase A to jump. Press on the capital A to shoot!" No, please.)

This is where we see that the people who thought of the X and Y buttons were geniuses.

geewj
Sep 16, 2005, 05:46 PM
http://www.cliffracer.com/store/images/snes-controlpad.jpg

I'm pretty sure they know about x and y.

That being said, they probably have a good reason for specifically doing it the new way.

Why change a good thing unless you have something better planned?

Blitzkommando
Sep 16, 2005, 05:46 PM
Ah, remember when the scroll-wheel mice first came out? People thought those would mess up personal computing by overly complicating a simple "drag and drop" premise. But look now, how the simple addition of a "wheel" revolutionized computing and made it even easier.

Even the wireless controllers of today are rather iffy. I mean, all it changes it that you have no wire, which is nice, but none the revolutionary. This to me looks like the next logical progression in technology. Much like the "Trigger" buttons, or even the analog stick. Look back then, when all of these new things were introduced, and people thought it would be terrible and ruin gaming. Now look, and we cannot imagine playing even the most basic of modern games without them. Change is inevitable, this is the next stage from a technology that is ancient in electronics terms. Hence, Revolution.

I've used wireless controllers with my PC that were gyroscopic in nature. And I have to admit, if I had a better one, with better stabilization, I would probably end up using it instead of my bulky joystick. Of course, the controller is about 5 years old, but, it was a step in the right direction.

I agree that stated about "jerking motions" while playing games. Heck, it's natural response! You have to train your brain not to jerk the controller while playing. I still catch myself pulling the controller in highly tense situations, like Super Smash Bros. This has the potential, like the DS, to change gaming forever. Let's just hope that they pull more support for the Revolution than the DS. But, based on Nintendo's history of 20 years now in consoles, there is no doubt in my mind about that. I for one, am ready for the Revolution.

Luis
Sep 16, 2005, 06:38 PM
On 2005-09-16 15:22, KodiaX987 wrote:
Have you guys noticed? They now have lowercase buttons. That's right:

A, a, B, b

Imagine the problems this would cause in games, especially for voice actors ("press on the lowercase A to jump. Press on the capital A to shoot!" No, please.)

This is where we see that the people who thought of the X and Y buttons were geniuses.



How genius you are, i wonder why a simple poster on psow did notice that, when the team designers didnt notice...

Outrider
Sep 16, 2005, 07:46 PM
The small a and b are probably only going to be used when playing 8-bit NES games. After all, how are you going to use them when holding the controller otherwise?

It's also worth noting that all the publications that got hands-on time with the controller mentioned that some of the demo units actually had those buttons listed as X and Y.

Plus, I think the uppercase/lowercase argument is rather thin in the long run anyway. That's like complaining that the Playstation had symbol buttons instead of letter buttons.

Split
Sep 16, 2005, 07:49 PM
Beaten to the punch by Outrider...gerrrr http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_rant.gif . I have another article here, I know a lot of you guys don't like game informer but oh well. Here it is:

http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Story/200509/N05.0915.1754.23125.htm

Still, it's incredible news, and it 1) proves Miyamoto's utter brilliance, 2) put's to rest all of the annoying rumors (itz GYr0scopezors b@sed!! OMFGTATZSOC00l1111), and 3) also proves that Nintendo>j00. sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.

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navci
Sep 16, 2005, 09:13 PM
I watched the video. It looks fun.
I'd love to play a few of those concepts in there.
MMm.
The possibilities.

HAYABUSA-FMW-
Sep 16, 2005, 10:49 PM
On 2005-09-16 19:13, navinator wrote:
I watched the video. It looks fun.
I'd love to play a few of those concepts in there.
MMm.
The possibilities.


Katamari Damacy will never be the same again! http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

The creator, Keita Takahashi, said he didn't like traditional games-there are too many unoriginal ones, and wanted to make a game he would like to play.

Imagine such a creative guy with these kinds of control options at his disposal.

This will certainly be the gaming debate of the next few years. Point-counter point until its all said and done with. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

EJ
Sep 17, 2005, 12:59 AM
It's a very unique idea and I for one is game to see how it will end up. For people saying it won't work have no right to say that since none of us have every touch the new controller so I think it very foolish to judge something before trying it out first.

I for one am slowing losing interest in games since you only sit there and it's not that much interact like when you were a kid, so I gotten bored of games and wanted something different and this is what I want a new and different experience.

Hopefully this will give gamers a new more interactive experience and I can't wait to see what games they have to offer and to see if this will push gaming closer to being more interactive.

Getintothegame
Sep 17, 2005, 01:22 AM
What about the C-Stick if they were going to add N64 games to the revolution? http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif

RoninJoku
Sep 17, 2005, 02:16 AM
Has anybody seen this "standard controller base" thingy on IGN? I believe its a mock-up... But they seem to be saying that the premise is real... But I can't find any info on it anywhere but at IGN...

EDIT-http://cube.ign.com/articles/651/651559p1.html

It looks pretty neat! Reminds me of a Dreamcast VMU... Except... well... with completely different functions http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Anyway... I'm surprised at all of the negative reactions to this... I mean sure, it seems abstract... But like some have said already, though the idea may seem out there as of today, tomorrow it may be completely standard and accepted! I will at least wager that even if Revolution nose-dives, we will see some of it's innovations on controllers of future game consoles (in more conventional ways)... I mean, by the time, say PS4 comes out, why not throw a little laser pointer on the top of the controller?

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Zelutos
Sep 17, 2005, 03:26 AM
they expect me to play games with a freaking remote control? Nuh-uh. sorry. not my digs.

HAYABUSA-FMW-
Sep 17, 2005, 05:40 AM
On 2005-09-17 01:26, Zelutos wrote:
they expect me to play games with a freaking remote control? Nuh-uh. sorry. not my digs.


Gahahaz @ that.

I have 200+ games and they all play the same.

Like EJ said. Look at screen. Tap buttons. Move stick.

The things that were "innovative" in the past were cheaply made/not thought out fully, and/or without major financial backing. Typing of the Dead comes to mind, among other games that worked, but nothing really standard.

As Nintendo said, they want to be out of the "console war," and just do their own thing.

Zelutos won't buy it. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

I'll eventually buy one. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

People hunt down Virtual Boy consoles, even when the creator was banned from creating new hardware after he made the Gameboy then Virtual Boy. He died in an accident, but he is still heralded as a game designer who helped create Nintendo to what it is today.

People hunt down Sega Nomads, Bandai Wonderswan, Neo Geo, etc. no matter how financially/commercially/whatever succesful they were. There is still a market for it. And guess what, Nintendo can afford a failure, if that happens. Like it matters to any consumer if Nintendo fails or not, loses money or not.

The PICO learning system in Japan lasts to this day. A flip page book/laptop system, where you tap a screen to learn.

Don't want it, STFU and don't buy it. Geez.

Nobody cares how much of a waste of your time/money it is if you bought one. Do we care that much about you? What do you want attention, your own Nintendo hatefan club throng of cult members?! http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

Geezus, material things. Better is subjective, and there's always something else worse to spend money on.

To go by raw numbers, as funny as it is, Gameboy wins. Hands down. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Play what you want and everybody wins.
---

What is with the attitude that with games = somebody wins?!

Getting way too disturbing for me to participate in such exchanges.

Sef
Sep 17, 2005, 08:44 AM
On 2005-09-17 01:26, Zelutos wrote:
they expect me to play games with a freaking remote control? Nuh-uh. sorry. not my digs.


That's fine. I'm sure there's tons of other people who'd give it a try. Maybe even like it.

I personally would love to try it out just to see what some of the games would be like. Like many others said, if they do the games right this could really be a revolution.

Give it a shot, you know? Who knows what you might be missing? If you don't like it, then okay... If nobody likes it, then it's going to die. Then you can go back to XBOX 360 and PS3.

And besides... Because it's a remote, it's bad? What's the deal with that?

Luis
Sep 17, 2005, 11:03 AM
On 2005-09-17 01:26, Zelutos wrote:
they expect me to play games with a freaking remote control? Nuh-uh. sorry. not my digs.



its inevitable, when changes come, sometimes there is no choice, i did say that when win 95 came and i was a user of win 3.1/DOS and certanly i got no other choice.

Skett
Sep 17, 2005, 12:19 PM
On 2005-09-17 03:40, HAYABUSA-FMW- wrote:
People hunt down Virtual Boy consoles, even when Gunpei Yokoi was temperally forced to work on useless crap but left Nintendo before his punishment was over. He died in an accident, but he is still heralded as a game designer who helped create Nintendo to what it is today.


Fixed.

Anyways, Rev's controller: it's interesting but I'm exciting. I think one thing that will stop people from enjoying is lack of imagination. If you think of the controller doing the same thing as controllers are doing now, of course it would seem useless, but if you think of the controller improving ideas with it's features, it may make more sense.

During Madden, making a throwing motion in a certain direction with the controller will make your on-screen persona throw the ball in that direction and depending on how fast you throw it, equals how hard the ball is thrown. I'm sure that would get plenty of football fans very excited.

Of done right, Revolution could really be just short of one. If done wrong, well, what a bunch of wasted potential.

Eihwaz
Sep 17, 2005, 12:30 PM
On 2005-09-17 00:16, RurouniJoku wrote:
Has anybody seen this "standard controller base" thingy on IGN? I believe its a mock-up... But they seem to be saying that the premise is real... But I can't find any info on it anywhere but at IGN...

EDIT-http://cube.ign.com/articles/651/651559p1.html

It looks pretty neat! Reminds me of a Dreamcast VMU... Except... well... with completely different functions http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Anyway... I'm surprised at all of the negative reactions to this... I mean sure, it seems abstract... But like some have said already, though the idea may seem out there as of today, tomorrow it may be completely standard and accepted! I will at least wager that even if Revolution nose-dives, we will see some of it's innovations on controllers of future game consoles (in more conventional ways)... I mean, by the time, say PS4 comes out, why not throw a little laser pointer on the top of the controller?

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This "conventional controller cradle" makes me feel a lot less anxious about the Revolution's controller.

I was shocked when I first read about this (just a few minutes ago), but it has huge potential. I can't wait to see what a Zelda or Metroid title would play like with one of these controllers...

PJ
Sep 17, 2005, 02:39 PM
All I can say is, if I can still use the best controllers around on Revolution, I'm happy http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

Skuda
Sep 17, 2005, 08:02 PM
On 2005-09-16 08:02, navinator wrote:
My only concern is... game nerds standing up and move around while playing games?! It might kill them. XD



what doesn't kill you makes you stronger, no?

this is what I've been waiting for! I just never expected it so soon.

Nintendo is the imagination behind game hardware. all the other systems are mainstream, and quite frankly, bore me.

I'm betting alot of people will choose not to buy the Revolution becuase of this, but I think they'll be missing out. Let's just hope this is used to it's full potential.


keep fighting nintendo! you can do it!

Outrider
Sep 17, 2005, 08:14 PM
The part that I find really funny about everyone going, "I'll never touch that" or "I'm sticking to old controllers", is that plenty of people said that when the N64 debuted with an analog stick. People were absolutely against it then, and guess what? It's now the industry standard.

I'm pretty confident that the naysayers will be changing their minds within a few years.

hollowtip
Sep 17, 2005, 08:38 PM
I have somewhat mixed feelings about the unveiling. On one hand I'm excited about the possibilities and gameplay experiences the controler can bring, but on the other hand I think Nintendo is going to have one hell of a time convincing the mainstream gamer to aknowledge and respect such an extreme venture off of the traditional controler format.

One aspect I am glad to hear is that the console will not be limited to just "pointer" guidance. Ports that will use the more widely accepted controler layout won't be an impossibility to experience and third party developers won't be confined to it's properties as well.

I hate to say it and I know the console is a long way from launch, but I'm hard pressed to believe Nintendo has the widespread respect (talking about the casual gamer and third party developers as well)
to deliver this "revolutionary" experience that we have all been hoping for. Don't get me wrong I defintiely see the potential with the controler (The range of motion is going to open a lot of doors for unique gameplay enjoyment) but will Nintendo be able to recruit people to share their same vision of what new age gaming should be?

I think not.

Outrider
Sep 17, 2005, 09:49 PM
On 2005-09-17 18:38, hollowtip wrote:
Don't get me wrong I defintiely see the potential with the controler (The range of motion is going to open a lot of doors for unique gameplay enjoyment) but will Nintendo be able to recruit people to share their same vision of what new age gaming should be?

I think not.



Y'know, I feel more confident than you. Because keep in mind, more casual gamers are going to be willing to pick up the controller and try it. They might not even realize they're playing a video game before it's too late. I think that so long as they can get the controller out into people's hands, they can convince them. It really seems like that kind of situation.

geewj
Sep 17, 2005, 10:00 PM
If they don't own one themsleves, they'll know somebody who does.

And after that it's just a matter of how great it is.

If it's good you'll get one too, if not you wont.

trypticon
Sep 17, 2005, 10:48 PM
I've been considering the possibilities of this new control scheme for the past few days, and I'm pretty excited about it, and also appreciate how the control can be switched to fit other types of games like RPGs and things.

This is really an amazing idea, if you think about it.

Consider, if you will, that gamers are often considered couch potatoes: staring at a screen all day, tapping away on a controller in a fixed position. You can throw that stereotype out the window with this! Nintendo has absolutely revolutionized gaming, if only in the fact that they have now made the controls in a way that has the gamer actually moving around, and not just sitting in place and letting gravity take its toll on their midsections. Consider if Nintendo made something like the Power Pad, which appeared on the original NES for you younger people out there, to go with this control scheme for a few of the games (as a thought, it would work very well with the control scheme in a boxing game), you would be moving not only your arms, but your legs. After an extended time of play, it would end up being much like a workout.

Think of how much easier some of the special moves off of a game like Street Fighter 2 (minues the 100 HandShake from E Honda) would be with a control scheme like this. And yes, as already mentioned, swinging around the controller like a sword for a new Zelda game could be very exciting. It would be half a step toward a home Virtual Reality system. If they get it right, this is a huge step for the gaming industry, and I truly hope that developers and consumers alike give it the chance it deserves.

Well done Nintendo!

Zelutos
Sep 17, 2005, 11:28 PM
On 2005-09-17 03:40, HAYABUSA-FMW- wrote:


On 2005-09-17 01:26, Zelutos wrote:
they expect me to play games with a freaking remote control? Nuh-uh. sorry. not my digs.


Gahahaz @ that.

I have 200+ games and they all play the same.

Like EJ said. Look at screen. Tap buttons. Move stick.

The things that were "innovative" in the past were cheaply made/not thought out fully, and/or without major financial backing. Typing of the Dead comes to mind, among other games that worked, but nothing really standard.

As Nintendo said, they want to be out of the "console war," and just do their own thing.

Zelutos won't buy it. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

I'll eventually buy one. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif



I'll probably end up buying one just because i love nintendo games ._.;; the things you do for love http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

HAYABUSA-FMW-
Sep 17, 2005, 11:56 PM
Zelutos lies!
> Everybody http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

Well, it isn't out yet, so just stop being soo negative until you try it is all.

Misplaced hate is such an ugly thing.

Sorry for being harsh. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif
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Street Fighter would be a bit cumbersome.
I'd imagine those octogon shaped cheap infared sensors at first thought, but I just got through some Marvel v Capcom 2, and got enough of a workout from that.

With how the gameplay is in those twitch fighters, it would be a bit difficult to pull off combos, yeah?

That's my spin on it, being a fighting game fanatic.

navci
Sep 18, 2005, 02:39 AM
When I was a kid, I imagined the technology that would allow you to play shooting games with well, like arcade guns. So when the light guns came out, it was a HUGE thing. And since then I have always wanted the whole virtual reality stuff, you swing stuff, you chop stuff, you take the max control. Now it is becoming a reality, I am excited.

edit: The reason I liked Sega so much was that they always used to come up with these awesome game ideas that no one has done before. It was weird, it was different, but it was also extremely innovative and new. Then after they sort of died, I was kinda meh. Seeing Nintendo doing something well, weird, different and innovative, sparks hope. For me, at least.

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