Ultimate Forest

[GreenArcher]

Anyone know around what ATA do you start to hit most of the time?

I'm a RAmarl, just hit Ultimate level 90. I do find in one person mode, but in Multimode about 50% of the time I cant land a hard attack in the first part of a combo. I was hopeing I wouldn't be missing this much with 258 ATA (Ranger Wall, 30 Hit Final Impact, Mag, Elf/Arm++). So how much higher should I get my ATA? (this is all in Forest BTW)

[Blitzkommando]

Seeing that I do fine with my HUnewearl in any area of ultimate with a Chains Sawd with no hit at 226 ATA... I suppose if you are using Hard-Hard-Hard combos, or Hard-Special-Special I could see the missing. However, with those stats I really don't understand how you are missing so much. Look at the hunters with much lower ATA and no hit weapons and they do fine with Light-Hard-Hard combos in most places. I would just suggest changing your combo method. Anything over 200 ATA should do fine in Ultimate Forest, regardless of mode.

[PJ]

With ATA just breaking 200 (With weapon equipped) and hitting fine in online CCA, I don't see how you could be missing nearly as much as you say you are, unless you aren't shooting at the enemy @_@

[GreenArcher]

Well right now I'm doing side story quests to get up to FoS and I'm barely missing.

I pulled into Heat Sword and a lot of timese its
Hard Attack
Miss
Get hit
Hard Attack
Miss
Get hit
Hard Attack
Miss Get hit
Dead

Well most of the time I pull out and heal but yeah, its only the first shot of a hard-hard-hard I can't seem to land

[PJ]

Then start with a weak attack, it'll raise the accuracy of the next hits (Assuming you hit the first hit)

[Neith]

Use a light attack to start off the combo. By doing that, you should hit (especially with that ATA). Using H-H-H isn't very accurate.

[Crokar]

i tried to do ult forest with ata of like 160 and i could not even hit a weak hit



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[Notos]

My HUcaseal is pushing 300 ATA and I still miss sometimes with the first hard attack in multi forest.

250 ATA is decent enough to do LHH combo most of the time. But it still feels a bit low in ult. Since you're a RA, you will need even more because you'll be using special attacks more than HU. I can tell you 330 ATA is not enough to hit deldepth in multi seabed with a snow queen. I need to get myself a V501 and test again.

I suggest you go hunt/buy some god/arms. They're extremely easy to get on greennill. And it shouldn't be too expensive to buy one. If you can stand doing hard ep4 at your level, then go get some heavenly/arms. They're the best heavenly stat boost unit.

[Oni140]

If you are a Ranger heres an idea.


I have a ranger also, and I was immensely struggling in the Forest. But here's a tactic that almost always works.

If you have a Frozen Shooter or another Freezing weapon, USE IT. After you freeze it, if you have an HP draining weapon (I used a Guld Milla) then keep using it until the freeze effect wears off. You can tell because a Freeze usually chimes as the effect takes place. It is usually 4 chimes before they thaw out, so after about 2/3 chimes, freeze it again and continue the process.

Unfortunately that's all I can say. Sorry if it wasn't very useful ^_^"

Effective but tedious and long strategy

[Genoa]

You shouldn't have much of a problem if you use Standard-Heavy-Heavy... I mean i'm a FOmar and I barely brake 165 ATA currently... so I mean, you should be able to do it depending on the order and sequence of what u attack.

[EphekZ]

...Use a force its much easier for some odd reason...

[EJ]

With that much ata on a Ramarl and in Forest you shouldn't be missing that much, maybe you should try to use Zalure also just a thought.

[EphekZ]

On 2005-10-03 20:56, ForceEJ wrote:
With that much ata on a Ramarl and in Forest you shouldn't be missing that much, maybe you should try to use Zalure also just a thought.



Why would Zalure make him being able to hit more?

unless Zalure also lowers EVP...

[Crokar]

i have no problems hitting # hard attacks in a row with 206 ata with my ranger so i cant really help.

the ata of 160 was with out using units so having 50 more ata from mag and arms really helps

[Neith]

On 2005-10-03 21:15, darkgunner wrote:


On 2005-10-03 20:56, ForceEJ wrote:
With that much ata on a Ramarl and in Forest you shouldn't be missing that much, maybe you should try to use Zalure also just a thought.



Why would Zalure make him being able to hit more?

unless Zalure also lowers EVP...



Zalure would lower the monster's defense, so when you did hit, you'd do more damage.

[Natron]

Even with about 380 ATA as a RaCast, my first hard attack often misses. My advice is L-H-H. It works like a charm and the damage isn't reduced by much. Also, if you time it just right, you can prevent enemies from getting to you by interrupting teir attacks.

[Charmander02]

Stop whining! im a force and i kick ass with about 140+ ATA. But if you still cant get your attacks to hit then use a whole bunch of God/Arms and a God/Battle. that'll keep you alive.

[REJ-]

I'm at something like 227 ATA (no weapon) and I just walk into Ultimate Ruins in multiplayer with H-H-H combos, hitting everything most of the time.