Heaven Striker Mag

[Badger-sama]

I think I know which mag this is, but I'm not sure.

What does it look like? Does anyone know? If it's the one I think I saw, I want it for my RAcast.

[Ryna]

Kef posted these pictures:
Striker Unit
http://keffypoo.free.fr/psobb/ep4/heavenstrikerunit3.png
http://keffypoo.free.fr/psobb/ep4/heavenstrikerunit4.png
http://keffypoo.free.fr/psobb/ep4/heavenstrikerunit5.png

Heaven Striker with Striker Unit
http://keffypoo.free.fr/psobb/ep4/heavenstrikerunit6.png
http://keffypoo.free.fr/psobb/ep4/heavenstrikerunit7.png

[Dana]

http://keffypoo.free.fr/psobb/ep4/heavenstrikerunit2.png

This pic is really clear too

[EphekZ]

what gun is he using?

[Dana]

On 2005-10-09 15:40, darkgunner wrote:
what gun is he using?


Heaven striker

[Ryna]

On 2005-10-09 15:40, darkgunner wrote:
what gun is he using?



He is using the Heaven Striker. Without the Striker Unit, it has a Beserk special. With it, it has a Heaven Punisher special.

[Sizzors]

That thing is ugly.

I'd rather have Beserk.

[Hrith]

The "Heaven Punishment" special attack when you are using Heaven Striker + Striker Unit works like Heaven Punisher or Mille Marteaux, i.e. only when the first digit of the beat time is an even number, when the first digit of the beat time is an odd number, the special is Berserk.

I agree, though, the mag Striker Unit is as ugly as useless. It's worse than useless, as it makes you weaker.

[Badger-sama]

On 2005-10-09 16:08, Kef wrote:
The "Heaven Punishment" special attack when you are using Heaven Striker + Striker Unit works like Heaven Punisher or Mille Marteaux, i.e. only when the first digit of the beat time is an even number, when the first digit of the beat time is an odd number, the special is Berserk.

I agree, though, the mag Striker Unit is as ugly as useless. It's worse than useless, as it makes you weaker.



I happen to like the way it looks... http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

But how does it make you weaker?

[Neith]

I think by 'weaker', Kef meant that the Heaven Punishment special attack (with Striker Unit equipped) is a worse special than Berserk, which is what the Heaven Striker uses without the Mag equipped.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

[Badger-sama]

On 2005-10-09 16:23, UrikoBB3 wrote:
I think by 'weaker', Kef meant that the Heaven Punishment special attack (with Striker Unit equipped) is a worse special than Berserk, which is what the Heaven Striker uses without the Mag equipped.

Correct me if I'm wrong.



I was never fond of the Berserk special. I hate losing HP under any circumstance.

That's just me though. I'm dumb. XD

[Oni140]

On 2005-10-09 16:08, Kef wrote:
The "Heaven Punishment" special attack when you are using Heaven Striker + Striker Unit works like Heaven Punisher or Mille Marteaux, i.e. only when the first digit of the beat time is an even number, when the first digit of the beat time is an odd number, the special is Berserk.

I agree, though, the mag Striker Unit is as ugly as useless. It's worse than useless, as it makes you weaker.



If that's the case which is more worth it? I know it's somewhat one-sided, but is it worth getting the attack reduction for the Heaven Punishment or is it better for the Berserk stat without the reduction?

[Hrith]

I'm really not sure what you mean :s

Berserk is about 1000000000000000000 better than heaven punishment (that's a rough estimate >_>).
Heaven punishment deals from 0 (yes, zero) to 250 damage at best, and that's if you're a RAmarl with 1031 MST. In other words, it's worse than a weak FO spamming Rafoie/Razonde, etc.

Someone should make a comprehensive guide to Damage Cancel, it would thoroughly explain why the heaven punishment special attack is 100% crap.

If you don't like Berserk, fine, then don't use this weapon at all.

It does have the best ATP of all rifles/handguns in the game, and has rifle range, but if you're not gonna use the special, you might wanna prefer Bringer's Rifle, Ano Rifle, or S-Rank Rifle with a good special...


About the mag again, it does not only change the special on beats starting with an even number, it also adds 25 MST, making the MST boost of the handgun 50, which is not too bad for a Ranger weapon.

[Badger-sama]

On 2005-10-09 21:33, Kef wrote:
I'm really not sure what you mean :s

Berserk is about 1000000000000000000 better than heaven punishment (that's a rough estimate >_>).
Heaven punishment deals from 0 (yes, zero) to 250 damage at best, and that's if you're a RAmarl with 1031 MST. In other words, it's worse than a weak FO spamming Rafoie/Razonde, etc.

Someone should make a comprehensive guide to Damage Cancel, it would thoroughly explain why the heaven punishment special attack is 100% crap.

If you don't like Berserk, fine, then don't use this weapon at all.

It does have the best ATP of all rifles/handguns in the game, and has rifle range, but if you're not gonna use the special, you might wanna prefer Bringer's Rifle, Ano Rifle, or S-Rank Rifle with a good special...


About the mag again, it does not only change the special on beats starting with an even number, it also adds 25 MST, making the MST boost of the handgun 50, which is not too bad for a Ranger weapon.



I usually go for a looks-to-usefulness ratio as opposed to pure unadulterated efficiency.

[Natron]

Wow, that mag is ugly!
And, If you're gonna spend many hours hunting a gun like Heaven Striker, it better be useful to you, or you just wasted a crap-load of time!

[Badger-sama]

On 2005-10-10 12:45, Natron wrote:
Wow, that mag is ugly!
And, If you're gonna spend many hours hunting a gun like Heaven Striker, it better be useful to you, or you just wasted a crap-load of time!



It's useful to me because I really, really like the way it looks.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder... http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

And besides, from what I'm hearing, its functionality kinda stinks, so I might not get it after all.

But I really don't think it's ugly at all... -_-

[PJ]

In terms of style, I think that it might work on a RAcast, or a bigger HUcast, but... poor Terra XD It just looks so... big... >_>

In terms of performance, I think there are situations where the Divine Punishment special is useful (Not for pure damage, but yeah), and the fact that it still has a functional special even outside the beat range makes it very plus. Now if it only didn't have the handgun animation...

[Hrith]

What's wrong with handgun animation? >_>

And HUcast cannot use this, this mag is for Rangers.

I'd rather have Berserk 100% of the time, than 50% of the time, heh.

Especially auto-aim Berserk ;x

[Badger-sama]

On 2005-10-10 17:34, Kef wrote:
What's wrong with handgun animation? >_>

And HUcast cannot use this, this mag is for Rangers.

I'd rather have Berserk 100% of the time, than 50% of the time, heh.

Especially auto-aim Berserk ;x



I just absolutely hate losing HP, even if it's to inflict major damage.

I'd rather have a good freeze or arrest special http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Oni140]

On 2005-10-09 21:33, Kef wrote:
I'm really not sure what you mean :s

Berserk is about 1000000000000000000 better than heaven punishment (that's a rough estimate >_>).
Heaven punishment deals from 0 (yes, zero) to 250 damage at best, and that's if you're a RAmarl with 1031 MST. In other words, it's worse than a weak FO spamming Rafoie/Razonde, etc.

Someone should make a comprehensive guide to Damage Cancel, it would thoroughly explain why the heaven punishment special attack is 100% crap.

If you don't like Berserk, fine, then don't use this weapon at all.

It does have the best ATP of all rifles/handguns in the game, and has rifle range, but if you're not gonna use the special, you might wanna prefer Bringer's Rifle, Ano Rifle, or S-Rank Rifle with a good special...


About the mag again, it does not only change the special on beats starting with an even number, it also adds 25 MST, making the MST boost of the handgun 50, which is not too bad for a Ranger weapon.



Does that mean Heaven Punishment damage is based on MST stats? Please pardon if you think this is a stupid question ^_^

[PJ]

On 2005-10-10 17:34, Kef wrote:
What's wrong with handgun animation? >_>

Just a style thing, I don't like the RAmarl handgun animation, but I like the RAcast/RAmar handgun animation (It just... looks more powerful).

EDIT: Wait, Auto-aim Berserk? What exactly does the Heaven Striker do? x_x Damnation Episode 4 weapons!

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[Saiffy]

On 2005-10-10 21:05, SUPAH_CHAO wrote:
EDIT: Wait, Auto-aim Berserk? What exactly does the Heaven Striker do? x_x Damnation Episode 4 weapons!

If you ever used Heaven Punisher on an off beat, you'd know what the auto aim is, I'll let you see sometime.

[PJ]

So it targets as if the Divine Punishment is there, but since it's not, it'll turn you in the direction of the closest monster?

[Hrith]

On 2005-10-10 21:12, SUPAH_CHAO wrote:
So it targets as if the Divine Punishment is there, but since it's not, it'll turn you in the direction of the closest monster?Like a shot, simply. Use a shot, or a weapon with shot radius (Spread Needle, Yasminkov 7000V), and that's how the special of the Heaven Striker works.

The Heaven Striker has rifle range and handgun radius, but since the special has shot radius, the range is lower, same as launchers.

And I think males look totally retarded when using guns and rifles >_> "hey, why not point my weapon to the sky while I stand, that way I'll look 100% stupid"

[Badger-sama]

On 2005-10-11 03:36, Kef wrote:


On 2005-10-10 21:12, SUPAH_CHAO wrote:
So it targets as if the Divine Punishment is there, but since it's not, it'll turn you in the direction of the closest monster?Like a shot, simply. Use a shot, or a weapon with shot radius (Spread Needle, Yasminkov 7000V), and that's how the special of the Heaven Striker works.

The Heaven Striker has rifle range and handgun radius, but since the special has shot radius, the range is lower, same as launchers.

And I think males look totally retarded when using guns and rifles >_> "hey, why not point my weapon to the sky while I stand, that way I'll look 100% stupid"



You're opinionated. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[PJ]

On 2005-10-11 04:30, Badger-sama wrote:
You're opinionated. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif



The only thing in Kef's post that was an opinion was his last statement, the rest of it was fact >_> Thanks for a useless post.

Well Kef, "Although I disagree with what you say, I'll fight to the death your right to say it." http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

[Badger-sama]

On 2005-10-11 04:41, SUPAH_CHAO wrote:


On 2005-10-11 04:30, Badger-sama wrote:
You're opinionated. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif



The only thing in Kef's post that was an opinion was his last statement, the rest of it was fact >_> Thanks for a useless post.

Well Kef, "Although I disagree with what you say, I'll fight to the death your right to say it." http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif



I was specifically referring to the last part of the post. http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[GhostScythe]

who ever said striker unit looks ugly?!!

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a69/ghostscythe/pso1129023561.jpg

in ultimate punishment only does 100-300 but its good for large groups of enemies. the dmg is weak but quick. on my racast i do somewhere between 200-250 on Ult Merissa so i'm sure RAmar and RAmarl can do some decent dmg. i'll have to play with it a little on my RAmarl to see how much dmg i can do.



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