PSO-World.com Has a New Home (bug reports go here)!

[Tomeeboy]

As most you already know by now, we just moved servers this evening. PSO World is now permanently hosted under it's own domain (pso-world.com, duh)! Most of our links and images should be working properly, and anything that tries to access an old planetdreamcast.com or dynamic.gamespy.com URL should work soon. If you happen to come across something that appears to be malfunctioning, please let us know by posting in this thread. Thanks for your patience and support while we continue to improve PSO-World.com!

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[Para]

Maybe you should consider renaming to PSU WORLD http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

[Skorpius]

Phantasy Star Universe World? http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_nono.gif

[Tomeeboy]

On 2005-12-07 21:13, Nites wrote:
Maybe you should consider renaming to PSU WORLD http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif



Have you tried going to PSU-World before? Or PSUW? http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Saiffy]

Seems to have stopped, but this happened going to the forum index a few minutes ago:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/Saiff/forumerror.jpg

[Tomeeboy]

On 2005-12-07 21:49, Saiffy wrote:
Seems to have stopped, but this happened going to the forum index a few minutes ago:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/Saiff/forumerror.jpg



Gamespy is still adjusting some settings and that was a temporary error caused by an 'adjustment' gone bad http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Skorpius]

The nonexistant advertisments inturrupting links will get annoying after a while.

[trypticon]

Yes, I'm surprised at the full page advertisements that pop up every time I click a link here now.

[Mixfortune]

Team PSOW forum seems to be down.

Error - The forum you selected does not exist. Please go back and try again.

You have an error in your SQL syntax. Check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near ') AND (forum_id = 21)' at line 1

[Neith]

On 2005-12-07 23:36, trypticon wrote:
Yes, I'm surprised at the full page advertisements that pop up every time I click a link here now.



I hear you, it's a little annoying (I can cope with the ads, it's just an inconvienence)

[SLON]

Double? the advertising space at the top of the screen, and also those pop-ups are very annoying. Despite this, getting your own server is good news.

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[Zarode]

Long Address (http://wrapper.gamespyid.com/s?from=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pso-world.com%2Fviewforum.php%3Fforum%3D11%2646451&siteId=7340&size=interstitial&ctky=16784293-19291888151134048724020&docTitle=PSO-World.com%20-%20Phantasy%20Star%20Online%20%26%20Phantasy%20Sta r%20Universe)

<_<; Yucky ads... http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif Is there anything you guys can do about that?



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[Ryna]

On 2005-12-08 05:33, Zarode wrote:
<_<; Yucky ads... http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif Is there anything you guys can do about that?


We are going to make some inquiries today to see what can be done about the current arrangement of ads on the site.

[Drybone]

In the Armor and Weapon Combinations no amter what u click u still end upp on the first page:)

[navci]

I clicked on a thread on FKL to reply. After typing up the reply to load back into the forum index full page Ad pop up and then brought me to the screen that says "The forum you have selected does not exist."

[Ryna]

On 2005-12-08 07:42, Drybone wrote:
In the Armor and Weapon Combinations no amter what u click u still end upp on the first page:)


The links in this guide should work now.

[Skorpius]

The floating sitcky links need to be retyped to fit the new server URL.

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[Ryna]

On 2005-12-08 12:53, Skorpius wrote:
Sticky links no longer work properly.


Can you cite an example? It would greatly help us if people linked to the problem areas.

[Skorpius]

I fixed the post.

[Ryna]

On 2005-12-08 12:59, Skorpius wrote:
I fixed the post.


That should be fixed.

[Skorpius]

Well, now they don't even work at all. ;p

http://www.pso-world.com isn't in the URLs, it should be.

[Ryna]

On 2005-12-08 13:20, Skorpius wrote:
Well, now they don't even work at all. ;p

http://www.pso-world.com isn't in the URLs, it should be.


Heh. The URL tags automatically insert a http:// if you do not specify a protocol. So much for relative linking....

[Rion772]

PSOW RL PIC COMMENT THREAD 2
when I click "picture thread" it sends me to the front page.

[Ryna]

On 2005-12-08 14:00, Rion772 wrote:
PSOW RL PIC COMMENT THREAD 2
when I click "picture thread" it sends me to the front page.


That should be fixed now.

[Tomeeboy]

At the moment, recursive linking on the old planetdreamcast and dynamic.gamespy.com URLs is NOT working. This means that trying to access a file or page using one of the old, non pso-world.com, links will result in redirection to the front page. I'm told this issue should be fixed sometime tonight or tomorrow afternoon at the latest.

[Zelutos]

I don't like that "Continue to PSOW" thing with the add on it when i come to the site >.>;;

[Skorpius]

On 2005-12-08 14:16, Zelutos wrote:
I don't like that "Continue to PSOW" thing with the add on it when i come to the site >.>;;


That was already recognized on the first page of this topic. >.>;;

[Delfi]

When i get a private message - it does not tell me i have a private message instead a small window pops up which contains the greeting message that can be found at the top of this page with the red background.

[Ryna]

On 2005-12-08 16:16, Delfi wrote:
When i get a private message - it does not tell me i have a private message instead a small window pops up which contains the greeting message that can be found at the top of this page with the red background.


Actually the message is still there, it is just below the red background. Since the dialog box cannot be resized, you don't see PM text.

[Getintothegame]

On 2005-12-08 00:02, Mixfortune wrote:
Team PSOW forum seems to be down.

Error - The forum you selected does not exist. Please go back and try again.

You have an error in your SQL syntax. Check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near ') AND (forum_id = 21)' at line 1



People not in the PSOW Team can't get in there. That's normal.. but the error has been the same since we added the forum.

[Zelutos]

On 2005-12-08 15:42, Skorpius wrote:


On 2005-12-08 14:16, Zelutos wrote:
I don't like that "Continue to PSOW" thing with the add on it when i come to the site >.>;;


That was already recognized on the first page of this topic. >.>;;



sorry..i missed that ><

[Derek0660]

People who have the "I am a ? to know what you are click here" in their sigs have an X instead of what's supposed to show.
I'm guessing the link for the pic changed and the people who have this in their sig will need to update it themselves, tho.

[Ryna]

On 2005-12-09 14:17, Derek0660 wrote:
People who have the "I am a ? to know what you are click here" in their sigs have an X instead of what's supposed to show.
I'm guessing the link for the pic changed and the people who have this in their sig will need to update it themselves, tho.


People are linking to the pictures using a planetdreamcast.com address. They will need to be changed to use a pso-world.com address.

[Tomeeboy]

On 2005-12-09 14:23, Ryna wrote:


On 2005-12-09 14:17, Derek0660 wrote:
People who have the "I am a ? to know what you are click here" in their sigs have an X instead of what's supposed to show.
I'm guessing the link for the pic changed and the people who have this in their sig will need to update it themselves, tho.


People are linking to the pictures using a planetdreamcast.com address. They will need to be changed to use a pso-world.com address.



Technically, the links should work.. but Gamespy has not fixed the recursive linking on the old domains yet.

[Mixfortune]

On 2005-12-08 21:31, Getintothegame wrote:


On 2005-12-08 00:02, Mixfortune wrote:
Team PSOW forum seems to be down.

Error - The forum you selected does not exist. Please go back and try again.

You have an error in your SQL syntax. Check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near ') AND (forum_id = 21)' at line 1



People not in the PSOW Team can't get in there. That's normal.. but the error has been the same since we added the forum.



I was on it, remember? http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif
Just checked back to see if my access had been removed or something, but I was just now able to access it, so something must have been fixed/changed.

[Getintothegame]

Ah, right you are. I just checked and you actually are still on the team. So disregard that error then.

[Inazuma]

even tho its been mentioned a few times, the full page ads need to go. normally, i stop visiting sites that pull this stuff.

[Qrrrbrbirbel]

Everytime i click on a forum, for example this one, it redirects me to the main page. It gets very annoying http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

[Tomeeboy]

On 2005-12-10 23:10, Qrrrbrbirbel wrote:
Everytime i click on a forum, for example this one, it redirects me to the main page. It gets very annoying http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif



Hm.... I'm not sure how that would be happening. How did you get in the forum to post if it's redirecting you to the main page every time? I'd clear temporary internet files, just in case your browser has somehow managed to cache the old forum index (from the previous server). However, even if you are somehow getting old links, the problem with those redirecting to the main page has been fixed.

[hyperacute]

Not sure how the "continue to PSO..." ads are set up but I seem to be getting 3 or 4 of them appearing one after the other when browsing the forums. One I can deal with, several of them end to end gets quite annoying. Is this normal?

[Wyndham]

On 2005-12-11 09:20, hyperacute wrote:
Not sure how the "continue to PSO..." ads are set up but I seem to be getting 3 or 4 of them appearing one after the other when browsing the forums. One I can deal with, several of them end to end gets quite annoying. Is this normal?


that's been happening to me too, and almost always the same ad.
I've gotten a godzilla one about 6 times.

[Dhylec]

hyperacute wrote:
Not sure how the "continue to PSO..." ads are set up but I seem to be getting 3 or 4 of them appearing one after the other when browsing the forums. One I can deal with, several of them end to end gets quite annoying. Is this normal?

Unfortunately, it was quite normal to some. I had as many as 12 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/dhylec/ad4.gif) before I do a clean installation of the new Firefox.

[trypticon]

On 2005-12-08 04:08, UrikoBB3 wrote:


On 2005-12-07 23:36, trypticon wrote:
Yes, I'm surprised at the full page advertisements that pop up every time I click a link here now.



I hear you, it's a little annoying (I can cope with the ads, it's just an inconvienence)



If I have to see ads, I'm either going to want a little bit more content (see porn), or I'm going to want them to start advertising my own site, since nobody is going to be paying attention to these ads anyway. It's going from taking a relative advert free site to the beginnings of a pay site. Are new members going to have to give their credit card numbers to start viewing the content here? And again, if that's the direction the site is taking, where are the naked chicks outside of PST episode 11?

In short, I understand the need for the ads if you are having to pay the fee for your own server now (if you guys weren't doing so before, that is.), but full page advertisements are an interruption to the accustomed flow that the long time members have formed here. It's taking a wonderful free thinking (although heavily censored in a certain point of view, considering at least one moderator does everything he can to piss people off, and by his own profile, hasn't played a PSO game since Version 1 on the dreamcast) site and making it into something that screams PROFIT. It isn't the desired way you want to go.

Before the site change, there were still ads on top of the pages. They weren't full page ads, although for a time, some of them were still resetting the pages during posts, which helped to piss some people off. If PSOworld was somehow able to attract a larger current user base, wouldn't those types of ads help pay for the new server space without the full page ones, perhaps on another pay per click base? I'm sure we can figure something out to make the site, and the commmunity here more accepting towards outsiders, and even attract the older members who aren't banned back in. It wouldn't be difficult to do so.

Right now, PSOworld is almost in a state of decay. The games are old news, and not attracting the numbers of new members that they used to. The regular members in the forums are recluses, and don't accept new members easily, and the staff is the same way, only worse, because they have the ability to make changes. It's not a healthy environment. Hell, the staff not only goes out of their way to make new members feel uncomfortable, they work diligently at making long standing members uncomfortable, as well.

Also, it would be nice if the staff not take all credit for the content at the site. I am well aware of a number of contributors who worked hard for what they found, submitted it to the site, and the site promptly gave credit to the staff for the finding.

Not good. Poor form.

In essence, there is a mountain of detail that could be worked on here to make the place a more all inclusive, non-threatening environment. More interesting content could easily be added by the talented members of the site (I'm specifying talented members, not talented staff) which would assist in gathering a larger audience for the site. The full page ads could be done away with in favor of smaller ads on top of the pages with an existing pay per click program which would help pay the bill for the server space.

If you have any questions about my suggestions, feel free to PM me.

[Ryna]

To anyone having problems with the full-page advertisements, could you answer the following questions?
-What browser are you using?
-Do you have cookies turned on?
-Were you logged in when you got consecutive ads?

Also, to set the record straight, Gamespy is still hosting PSOWorld. We were transferred from PlanetDreamcast to their new hosting server.

The full-page advertisements came as a surprise to all of us. Gamespy's new server automatically inserts the advertisement code into the site's code. We don't have any control over it. Tomeeboy is seeing what can be done about removing or reducing the volume the full-page ads. I don't think anyone likes them. Still, you have to understand there will be some ads (such as the one at the top) since Gamespy is trying to make some money off hosting the site. Please try to be patient as we try to work out some of the problems that happened because of the move.

We don't have any intention of ever turning this into a pay-site.

[hyperacute]

On 2005-12-11 12:50, Ryna wrote:
To anyone having problems with the full-page advertisements, could you answer the following questions?
-What browser are you using?
-Do you have cookies turned on?
-Were you logged in when you got consecutive ads?



Heh, managed to get 3 full page ads just trying to make this post. Anyways, to answer your question:

I'm using the latest iteration of Safari on a Mac.
Cookies are switched on.
I am currently logged in but notice an increase in the number of ads when I'm not logged in.

[trypticon]

Microsoft INternet Explorer, version 6.0.2800.1106IC

Java permissions on High Safety

custom security settings on medium

Always logged on, so I can't answer the on or off question.

[Neith]

On 2005-12-11 12:50, Ryna wrote:
To anyone having problems with the full-page advertisements, could you answer the following questions?
-What browser are you using?
-Do you have cookies turned on?
-Were you logged in when you got consecutive ads?


-Mozilla Firefox 1.0.7
-Cookies are switched on.
-I get the ads when I am logged in, and when I'm not. I've never had a chain of more than 2, but it is a little annoying.

[Niki]

This probably won't help, but i found it interesting.

- Firefox 1.0.7
- Cookies are allowed for originating website only
- i've never gotten an ad while logged in or off. ever.

pleansantly enough, i never changed my bookmark, so if i hadn't read the thread, i wouldn't even know the domain has changed. nice transition.

[Tomeeboy]

Trypticon, the site has actually been increasing in users and traffic steadily and we've been working diligently trying to make it more welcoming for new users (by doing things such as improving the registration page, which was previously very confusing).

To confirm what Ryna said, we're 100% against the full page ads. Believe me, they are annoying us as much as they are annoying some of you, as we even get them while trying to do work on the site using our back-end scripts. We have no intention of turning into a pay-site, but that does not mean we won't have some ads (such as the ones at the top of every page). However, the current behavior of the full page ads isn't acceptable and we are working to resolve the issue as soon as possible. As the big red bar at the top of every page states, please bear with us while we try to work out some remaining bugs. We haven't been on the new server for even a week yet, so I think it's a bit early to be making wreckless assumptions.

[trypticon]

Not making reckless assumptions, just observations. Considering that all of this is just reckless assumption is just that, a reckless assumption that you are guilty of making, yourself.

The staff here needs to be made over again. I have recently learned of two demodifications, and at least one of them was well deserved. Problem is, there are still a few in need of demodification, and it's almost alarming that their behavior seems to go unchecked.

Again, taking credit for other people's work is dishonorable, and that has happened here. From what I see, there has been no correction thus far to the claims that have been made. But then, the site would lose some credibility if those corrections were made, and noticed.

Again, the site deserves some changes, enough to make the atmosphere friendly again, which is clearly is not anymore, and that goes for more than just my viewpoint. I get complaints about things here daily from a number of parties. I don't know why the complaints are made to me, as it isn't like I can do anything about them. But to go as far as use a line from popular media 'to protect the site from devestation', I am simply standing for changes that are being called upon by the viewers here.

But then, if it's not what you want to read, I don't expect you to. Just as the advice so many people give, if you don't like it, don't go there.

[Ryna]

The site staff works very hard to give people their due credit. Sometimes we may miss something. If you feel there has been a grievous error, send me a PM and we'll discuss it there. This thread is about discussing problems related to the Site Move.

[Tomeeboy]

I would not recommend any further attacks on the staff. If you have a problem with a staff member or how something is done on the site, I'm always open to discussing things via PM. However, this thread is not an outlet for public accusations or berating. These people dedicate their free time to keep this site running and it would not be here at all if it weren't for them. I am 100% for improving the site and community, but there is a way to do so without being disrespectful to those who will ultimately be taking on the task of making those improvements.

Let's get this thread back on topic so that we can concentrate on resolving issues relating to the recent server move. The sooner we get everything working corrently on the new server, the sooner we can get back to work on other things.

[Derek0660]

People who are mad about the full page ads are cracked. Is the extra 2 seconds it takes you to click "Continue to PSO World" really that big of deal?
PSO World needs the extra money that they can get from these ads. I would rather have these ads than than have a lousy PSO World.

[Tomeeboy]

On 2005-12-11 14:55, Derek0660 wrote:
People who are mad about the full page ads are cracked. Is the extra 2 seconds it takes you to click "Continue to PSO World" really that big of deal?
PSO World needs the extra money that they can get from these ads. I would rather have these ads than than have a lousy PSO World.



Just to clarify something... The ads belong to Gamespy and we do not generate any revenue from them.

The biggest problem we are seeing right now is that some users (and staff) are receiving multiple consecutive ads, meaning that clicking the 'continue' link at the top of one ad just takes them to another. This is definitely not how the ads are supposed to function, and is a problem we are trying to get fixed immediately.

[Derek0660]

On 2005-12-11 15:05, Tomeeboy wrote:


On 2005-12-11 14:55, Derek0660 wrote:
People who are mad about the full page ads are cracked. Is the extra 2 seconds it takes you to click "Continue to PSO World" really that big of deal?
PSO World needs the extra money that they can get from these ads. I would rather have these ads than than have a lousy PSO World.



Just to clarify something... The ads belong to Gamespy and we do not generate any revenue from them.

The biggest problem we are seeing right now is that some users (and staff) are receiving multiple consecutive ads, meaning that clicking the 'continue' link at the top of one ad just takes them to another. This is definitely not how the ads are supposed to function, and is a problem we are trying to get fixed immediately.



Oh, I get it now. Thanks for clarifying.

[Skuda]

when you get a Pm window to pop up, it's covered by the greetings! message.

[Tomeeboy]

On 2005-12-11 20:33, Scott_Kuda wrote:
when you get a Pm window to pop up, it's covered by the greetings! message.



Heh.. sorry about that http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif We had to find a way to get the message to show up on every page without having to manually edit every theme, and that was one of the side effects. I'll probably be taking that message down sometime in the next day or two, as we expect to have the remaining bugs worked out very soon. In the meantime, a temporary trick to get your PM link is to just highlight the text that pops up in the box and drag the cursor down.

Edit: You know what, scratch that. I came up with a little workaround that solves the problem http://pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif PM windows should be greeting-free now.


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