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PSOPRINCE
Jul 10, 2006, 10:37 AM
i think that both methods of finding rare enemies have ups and downs for instance more experiance for runs and more chance of other rares but slow

piping i hear messes up your gmaecube am i right?
it is quicker sometimes and it is easier so which is better in you opinions

moonreaper2
Jul 10, 2006, 11:01 AM
Hmmmmm.......i would have to say piping for certain monsters like for pal rappys,love rappys,hiliblues,hilditor,and al rappy but for caves i would say runs i have for the rare monsters in cave.

PSOPRINCE
Jul 10, 2006, 11:08 AM
it difficult cos i'm looking for blues and torrs its soo fucking hard to find

moonreaper2
Jul 10, 2006, 11:10 AM
If your looking for blues and tors I strongly recomend the offline quest forest of sorrow thats the way i always find those guys i found a tor in 9 teles and got red saber.

PSOPRINCE
Jul 10, 2006, 11:14 AM
thats exacly what i do but i never find any i pipe and i pipe and i pipe some more and i never find one then i do one run find my first and so ar my last and it drops a scepter should i just persivere on piping?

moonreaper2
Jul 10, 2006, 11:18 AM
omg its chance i always find ones in the same room,the room in forest 2 were theres usally a warp to go up near the central dome...

PSOPRINCE
Jul 10, 2006, 11:22 AM
i can olny play at the weekned so to find rares is really rare, i do about on average 5 runs per weekend so it takes so long to find stuff

GrumblyStuff
Jul 10, 2006, 11:36 AM
God DAMN IT. There's nothing stopping you from doing Forest of Sorrow runs but piping the group of a four a couple times just to get some extra chances in.

That said, experience from runs will make them go quicker over time.

moonreaper2
Jul 10, 2006, 11:39 AM
EXACTLY... ITS NOT HARD takes 10 mins give or take if your good enough and if you have patience!

PSOPRINCE
Jul 10, 2006, 11:40 AM
take a chill pill we were talking relaxed till you came, and thnx for the onfo

ombres
Jul 10, 2006, 11:46 AM
Can't stand piping!! did try it some time, but I get bored very fast doing it, so I need the xp anyway, so I do run! So far with my redia, I got almost all rare from the very hard mode, still some ruin and seabed one to go, and just starting to hunt in the Ultimate forest for some!

PSOPRINCE
Jul 10, 2006, 11:49 AM
level, cos it seems you get rares easy

Feelmirath
Jul 10, 2006, 12:13 PM
I suggest doing runs. You actually get exp while doing it.
And there's the matter of piping screwing up your GC. Not good >_>

PSOPRINCE
Jul 10, 2006, 12:25 PM
in small bursts its fine i suppose

Clark145
Jul 10, 2006, 12:27 PM
i did 140 pipes for a love rappy, which dropped nothing, then did 300 for another, heart of poumon, found out my char cant use it. i just read the forums while piping.

moonreaper2
Jul 10, 2006, 12:28 PM
Ya if you have time to waste do piping if u want exp while doing it do runs.

PSOPRINCE
Jul 10, 2006, 12:37 PM
huh thats a great idea i'm gonna do that next time

Tweengo
Jul 10, 2006, 12:57 PM
How does piping mess the 'Cube up? What about the Xbox?

P.S.OFFTOPIC. Worms 3D and AR mess it up too.

PSOPRINCE
Jul 10, 2006, 01:01 PM
cos when you go up to pioneer and everthing loads you hear it makes noises if it does that too often it fucks it up

Tweengo
Jul 10, 2006, 01:03 PM
Oh yeah......maybe that's why I'm on my third Cube. On my other Cubes, it stuttered when entering the shop or mission area.

PSOPRINCE
Jul 10, 2006, 01:31 PM
strange, three cubes man that blows

Marshank
Jul 10, 2006, 01:39 PM
If you have a Redria character, you have a bit higher chance of finding rare items, but often times they arent good. With my Pinkal, I've already found quite a few rares on hard. I think there's a Guild for finding rare monsters, but im not sure which it is. Pinkals tend to find better items, but not quite that often, so if you pipe it for rare monsters and you find a red item it will most likely be good.

Asuke
Jul 11, 2006, 02:57 AM
i think just play the game and eventually i will run into the "rare" enemies... I guess you could say that I put it all into my "God/hands".... heh sorry that was cheesey

Pure-chan
Jul 11, 2006, 05:22 PM
I piped for and killed 72 pinkal Pal Rappies, before getting an Orotiagito. It's not that I couldn't have just traded for one, or borrowed a friends - it's just that its supposedly a 1 in 21 drop. ..after you get to double that (1 in 42) it just becomes a matter of principle. -.-

On the other hand, I found 3 pal rappies with my skyly that gave me 3 angel harp in a row - without piping. ...One with 35 hit. C'est la vie, I guess.

Halowolf911
Jul 11, 2006, 10:22 PM
hell no i did both methods to find a frozen shooter an nither worked i did 98 runs and 235 pipes to find a Hildeltor and one never showed up!

GrumblyStuff
Jul 11, 2006, 10:38 PM
Puh. You think that's bad. Try 190-200ish runs of Unsealed Door vs the 103 "on average" needed to get S-Parts 2.01. Splitting the difference (one tends to lose count after a while...), that comes out to 20,085 Gillchics. Counting the other enemies, I could have unsealed a SJS. ¬_¬

I still need to get that damn shield, too.

Halowolf911
Jul 11, 2006, 10:42 PM
please i got one for free

GrumblyStuff
Jul 11, 2006, 10:49 PM
Then I don't feel too bad about stealing all your 'torrs. ;D

Got 9 or so though piping and runs with my Yellowboze and I got... 4 FSs and SQ. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Halowolf911
Jul 11, 2006, 10:51 PM
ok i thought u needed one

Halowolf911
Jul 11, 2006, 10:52 PM
so u need s-parts? i got em

PSOPRINCE
Jul 12, 2006, 10:17 AM
i thought d parts were bettr

GrumblyStuff
Jul 12, 2006, 01:20 PM
Check the stats. S-Parts 2.01 raise ATA by 15 ABOVE the max ATA.

PSOPRINCE
Jul 12, 2006, 01:25 PM
wow that is good

KailAurion
Jul 12, 2006, 02:08 PM
Piping, if you pipe in a room with certain enemies, rare monsters spawn... and with my high luck I get kickass drops. I've got a luck of 60.

merrycherry9
Jul 12, 2006, 02:12 PM
I say piping if you're in a hurry to find one. I've found more on runs but they take longer to find.

GrumblyStuff
Jul 12, 2006, 02:14 PM
LCK has nothing to do with drop rates.

PSOPRINCE
Jul 12, 2006, 02:27 PM
i always thought it did, the more luck you have the more weps you found thats why i screwed up my fonewearl by giving her luck matereials

KailAurion
Jul 12, 2006, 02:35 PM
So then I just may be extremely lucky when I'm crushing thy foes.

PSOPRINCE
Jul 12, 2006, 03:08 PM
yeah probably or i'm just really unlucky