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Asuke
Jul 11, 2006, 06:51 PM
Im a force and i always have deband casted but i was wondering does anyone really use jellen or zalure all that often?

BeeYee
Jul 11, 2006, 06:54 PM
YES, usually Ruin Arlans do about 250-300 damage to me, but with deband and jellen, they do about 30. I dont use shifta or zalure because im a FOnewm and i dont attack.

blace
Jul 11, 2006, 06:55 PM
Jellen and Zalure often get lost when I play with friends when they ask me to power them up or when they need it. But those techs are good for when there are just some beginners in you group.

GrumblyStuff
Jul 11, 2006, 06:56 PM
Shifta. Makes killing quicker but doesn't require a casting with every group of enemies (Zalure).

But really, this is a stupid poll. A soloing tech FO might only need Deband (and Jellen for big enemies) but a meleeing FO or a FO playing support in a group should be casting all of them (usually; onliners will complain about Jellen'ed bosses such as Gal Gryphon).

BeeYee
Jul 11, 2006, 06:59 PM
yes indeed Grumbly, I agree.

Neith
Jul 11, 2006, 07:17 PM
lol.

How about Shifta/Deband/Zalure/Jellen? In 99% of situations, you should use all of them anyway. Only against things like Gal Gryphon should you reconsider on Jellen.

Eeyore
Jul 11, 2006, 07:31 PM
It takes up time to cast them? Solo casting forces doesn't need shifta and zalure? if the monsters have low DFP compared to your ATP (forest) it is hardly worth it to keep casting zalure.

Rekitheforce
Jul 11, 2006, 07:31 PM
Totally depends on your situation, what difficulty, and who you're fighting.

KailAurion
Jul 11, 2006, 07:49 PM
None of them. Ryuker. Saves lots of money on pipes.

Neith
Jul 12, 2006, 08:27 AM
On 2006-07-11 17:31, Eeyore wrote:
It takes up time to cast them? Solo casting forces doesn't need shifta and zalure? if the monsters have low DFP compared to your ATP (forest) it is hardly worth it to keep casting zalure.




Solo? What's that? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif You can't use solo as an example, solo requires even less skill than online multiplayer. In a general team setting, you will use all 4.

True, a solo FO won't need Zalure/Shifta. Your point about low DFP monsters is arguable- I use Zalure on everything, it allows much faster kills (maybe with the sole exception of Forest, but reallistically you could walk Ult Forest without S/D/J/Z anyway.)

Marter
Jul 12, 2006, 09:10 AM
Shifta.

Dhylec
Jul 12, 2006, 09:38 AM
Option 5: All of the above

AlaskaMan
Jul 12, 2006, 09:54 AM
Yeah shifta is my favorite. It raises ur attack by a lot

PSOPRINCE
Jul 12, 2006, 10:06 AM
definately a high level shifta is its so good for hu's even though jelen can be useful

Lord_Kratos
Jul 12, 2006, 10:16 AM
wats a support technique ^-^

PSOPRINCE
Jul 12, 2006, 10:19 AM
you know when you look at the support menue tecs like ryuka, shifta deband, jellen and zalure oh and reversa

Lord_Kratos
Jul 12, 2006, 10:48 AM
i see thanx i dont ever use foces and just foie and stuff for magic!
Kratos Lv. 124 HUmar Yelowboze
Albireo Lv. 78 HUmar Skyly <---(Ultimate mode lv. 63)

PSOPRINCE
Jul 12, 2006, 10:50 AM
u dont use jellen. zalure and ruyuka?

blace
Jul 12, 2006, 10:50 AM
Shifta and deband are still good when there are noobs around or just getting stronger than the enemies.

PSOPRINCE
Jul 12, 2006, 11:02 AM
true just them can make the differenc between life and death

AxelgearVII
Jul 12, 2006, 12:01 PM
Option 0. Resta.

Neith
Jul 12, 2006, 12:07 PM
Resta isn't support strictly ;o

Anti/Resta/Reverser are classed as 'Heal'. Shifta/Deband/Jellen/Zalure/Ryuker are support, if anyone wants to be picky. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

Tweengo
Jul 12, 2006, 12:19 PM
I always use deban/jellen with my Magician, since it saves having to waste tp healing every 5 seconds, well in the ruins and mines anyway.

DonRoyale
Jul 13, 2006, 09:29 PM
On 2006-07-12 07:38, Dhylec wrote:
Option 5: All of the above



QFE ;o

TheyCallMeJoe
Jul 13, 2006, 10:22 PM
I agree with everyone who said "all of them." Even Jellen/Zalure during team play isn't that much of a chore. A few seconds of casting per enemy spawn isn't gonna kill you.

Heanix
Jul 14, 2006, 01:24 PM
On 2006-07-12 08:16, Lord_Kratos wrote:
wats a support technique ^-^



EX: Shifta Increase ATP

I say deband. If you use shifta u have more ATP. But ex: You get knocked on the Ground by an attack, you'll lose time of ure Shifta. If ure are Debanded ( That might not be a verb ) You wont get knocked on the ground & u will have more time of being Debanded.
but Shifta + Deband = SuperPowered

If only It exist a Support Tech that Increase attack Speed.

K-Morfos
Jul 14, 2006, 02:38 PM
My FO's Jellan causes hard mode boomas hit 1 damage (this is hard, my FO is 50).