The Unofficial "Will My Computer Run PSU" Thread [Archive] - Page 4

Yawn

Oct 10, 2006, 03:12 PM

On 2006-10-09 20:24, Yawn wrote:
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System Information
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Time of this report: 10/9/2006, 22:22:00
Machine name: LOPEZ
Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Gateway
System Model: W3052
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Sempron(tm) 3000+, MMX, 3DNow, ~2.0GHz
Memory: 448MB RAM
Page File: 459MB used, 596MB available
Windows Dir: C:WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: None
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce4 MX Integrated GPU
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce4 MX Integrated GPU
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: EnumPCIVEN_10DE&DEV_01F0&SUBSYS_927A1509&REV_A3
Display Memory: 64.0 MB
Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6176 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 7/12/2004 04:50:00, 3740032 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
Mini VDD Date: 7/12/2004 04:50:00, 2459968 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-42B0-11CF-996E-70B202C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x01F0
SubSys ID: 0x927A1509
Revision ID: 0x00A3
Revision ID: 0x00A3
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_B ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D
Deinterlace Caps: {212DC723-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_MedianFiltering
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{212DC723-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_MedianFiltering
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
D3D7 Test Result: Not run
D3D8 Test Result: Not run
D3D9 Test Result: Not run

....?.... *gulp*

So if I update my RAM and Video Card, will I be okay? I really don't want to have to buy an Xbox 360 for only 1 game. And if I do buy them, I will just pay best buy to install them for me. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

Katrina

Oct 10, 2006, 03:20 PM

Intel Pentium 4 Processor 630 w/HT Technology (3.0 GHz, 800FSB)

512MB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz -2DIMM's

Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900

80GB Serial ATA 3 Gb/s Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/ 8MB cache

(I'm kinda worried about my graphics card.., any suggestions?)

[ This Message was edited by: Pixiesugar on 2006-10-10 13:25 ]

Alexandrious1

Oct 10, 2006, 05:36 PM

On 2006-10-10 13:12, Yawn wrote:

On 2006-10-09 20:24, Yawn wrote:
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System Information
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Time of this report: 10/9/2006, 22:22:00
Machine name: LOPEZ
Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Gateway
System Model: W3052
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Sempron(tm) 3000+, MMX, 3DNow, ~2.0GHz
Memory: 448MB RAM
Page File: 459MB used, 596MB available
Windows Dir: C:WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: None
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce4 MX Integrated GPU
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce4 MX Integrated GPU
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: EnumPCIVEN_10DE&DEV_01F0&SUBSYS_927A1509&REV_A3
Display Memory: 64.0 MB
Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6176 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 7/12/2004 04:50:00, 3740032 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
Mini VDD Date: 7/12/2004 04:50:00, 2459968 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-42B0-11CF-996E-70B202C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x01F0
SubSys ID: 0x927A1509
Revision ID: 0x00A3
Revision ID: 0x00A3
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_B ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D
Deinterlace Caps: {212DC723-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_MedianFiltering
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{212DC723-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_MedianFiltering
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
D3D7 Test Result: Not run
D3D8 Test Result: Not run
D3D9 Test Result: Not run

....?.... *gulp*

So if I update my RAM and Video Card, will I be okay? I really don't want to have to buy an Xbox 360 for only 1 game. And if I do buy them, I will just pay best buy to install them for me. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

Sighs your just like a certain Dial up fanatic I know around here, too damn stubborn to listen. Ironically you use his same exact avatar. Ill copy what I said since apparently you missed it.

If you know absolutely nothing about computers, and considering the age of your current computer, I highly advise not upgrading it at all. Youll end up buying a card or ram not compatible with the motherboard, and either end up destroying the whole thing or the computer not even powering on.

Desktops arnt just something you can take apart, and put new parts in. You have to know what the motherboard can handle, what it can use, whats the maximum it can use, you have to know what ram sockets you have, you have to know what your Powersupply wattage is and if it can give enough power to run the new video card. If not youll have to replace the Powersupply, but again youll have to check to see if the motherboard can handle a stronger powersupply. You have to know how many AGP sockets you have, gotta know if its 8x or not as well.

Theirs so many complicated things youll have to know about building/upgrading computers. I would know, ive built five so far in my life. I really suggest getting a PS2 or Xbox 360 before you do something youll regret.

To end this, with the amount of money youll spend on a Video card and additional ram anyway to be able to run the game fine, you coulda bought a USED xbox 360 with it, and play it even better *gasps*

Thats excluding the amount of money in replacing the motherboard, the Power supply, basically everything hence why its better to buy or build anew then to try and upgrade it.

Also is your Desktop a Compact case or Tower? If its compact case then all the more reason not to try and upgrade it.

[ This Message was edited by: Alexandrious1 on 2006-10-09 20:45 ]

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vitius137

Oct 10, 2006, 05:39 PM

ok I know this topic has been brought up again and again, but i need to use it one last time.

I'm finally going to buy a new graphics card for my computer and I need help from the more experienced people. Basically, I have a little uned $300 to spend on a graphics card. What I want is a graphics card that meets this criteria:

-close to $199
-runs PSU decently (at least no lag on standard settings for offline mode.)
-easy to overclock (just in case i need more power. I have a good fan and power supply so no problem there.)

Anything close to that criteria would be fine.

I really appreciate any help I can get. Thanks in advance http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

EDIT: crap, forgot to mention I need an AGP graphics card -_-"

[ This Message was edited by: vitius137 on 2006-10-10 15:42 ]

Ecstasy

Oct 10, 2006, 05:44 PM

me being an ATI person i would go with the radeon X850 256MB card. It will be more then enough to run PSU, and you can run alot of othere high end games really well as well.

xxravenxx

Oct 10, 2006, 05:51 PM

yeah im going to get it for PS2 because consel(i forgot how to spell it) games generally run better and look better. and i like the PS2 controlls and stuff. i couls probubly play it on my computer but i just want it for PS2, and the other reason is that i already pre-ordered it from ebgames for PS2 xD the PS2 and PC have universal servers so if anyone wants to play with me in like 2 weeks, tell me http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif i could allways use new friends http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

vitius137

Oct 10, 2006, 05:56 PM

On 2006-10-10 15:44, Ecstasy wrote:
me being an ATI person i would go with the radeon X850 256MB card. It will be more then enough to run PSU, and you can run alot of othere high end games really well as well.

I was thinking of getting that one. I generally preffer ATI even though I often hear Nvidia is better.

VioletSkye

Oct 10, 2006, 05:58 PM

On 2006-10-10 15:39, vitius137 wrote:
ok I know this topic has been brought up again and again, but i need to use it one last time.

I'm finally going to buy a new graphics card for my computer and I need help from the more experienced people. Basically, I have a little uned $300 to spend on a graphics card. What I want is a graphics card that meets this criteria:

-close to $199
-runs PSU decently (at least no lag on standard settings for offline mode.)
-easy to overclock (just in case i need more power. I have a good fan and power supply so no problem there.)

Anything close to that criteria would be fine.

I really appreciate any help I can get. Thanks in advance http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

EDIT: crap, forgot to mention I need an AGP graphics card -_-"

[ This Message was edited by: vitius137 on 2006-10-10 15:42 ]

XFX PVT73AUDF7 Geforce 7600GT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 AGP 4X/8X Video Card (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150200)

[ This Message was edited by: VioletSkye on 2006-10-10 16:29 ]

vitius137

Oct 10, 2006, 06:23 PM

Thanks soooo much VS, I knew I could count on you http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

VioletSkye

Oct 10, 2006, 06:25 PM

Hands down the 7600GT is easily one of if not the best AGP card for the price http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

vitius137

Oct 10, 2006, 06:31 PM

Well I guess I'll be getting that one then. Is it actually available in stores or only for online purchase?

VioletSkye

Oct 10, 2006, 06:38 PM

I'm not sure to be honest. You may want to call around to a few places in your area to see if they sell that brand/model.

Xeraphim

Oct 10, 2006, 10:31 PM

Well, Kyuu, could I get some reccomendations for video card upgrades? I've never bothered with knowing anything spec wise for my computer, nor do I know price ranges for up to date video cards.

ShijinKun

Oct 11, 2006, 06:48 AM

On 2006-10-10 04:49, ShijinKun wrote:
=============================== System =================================

CPU = AMD Athlon XP(TM) Processor
CPU Speed = 1791 MHz
No. of CPUs = 1
OS = Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 Ver 5.01.2600
Version of DirectX = DirectX 9.0
Main Memory = Capacity: 383MB : Free Space: 59MB
Graphics Card = NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 4000
Type of Chip = NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 4000
Video Driver = nv4_disp.dll
Version = 6.14.10.9147
Updated = Friday, August 11, 2006 9:42 PM
VendorId = 0x10DE
DeviceId = 0x0185
SubSysId = 0x0000
Revision = 193
VRAM = 64.0MB
AvailableVidMem = 58.8MB
AvailableTextureMem = 114.0MB
================================================== ====

those are my specs, im conserned about my video card and my cpu since its not a pentium as you can see, what do yall think, would it run?

Cojiro

Oct 12, 2006, 10:37 AM

Specs:
Intel iMac (Boot camped to run windows XP, of course.)
2.33GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
2GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM - 2x1GB
NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT 256MB SDRAM

Will that do?

mogshaz

Oct 12, 2006, 10:40 AM

i don't see why not. i know absolutely nothing about windows on a mac but your raw specs look perfectly fine.

Cojiro

Oct 12, 2006, 10:43 AM

Basicly it's just windows running on mac hardware ^_^ Thanks for that, though.

Akaimizu

Oct 12, 2006, 10:48 AM

On 2006-10-11 04:48, ShijinKun wrote:

On 2006-10-10 04:49, ShijinKun wrote:
=============================== System =================================

CPU = AMD Athlon XP(TM) Processor
CPU Speed = 1791 MHz
No. of CPUs = 1
OS = Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 Ver 5.01.2600
Version of DirectX = DirectX 9.0
Main Memory = Capacity: 383MB : Free Space: 59MB
Graphics Card = NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 4000
Type of Chip = NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 4000
Video Driver = nv4_disp.dll
Version = 6.14.10.9147
Updated = Friday, August 11, 2006 9:42 PM
VendorId = 0x10DE
DeviceId = 0x0185
SubSysId = 0x0000
Revision = 193
VRAM = 64.0MB
AvailableVidMem = 58.8MB
AvailableTextureMem = 114.0MB
================================================== ====

those are my specs, im conserned about my video card and my cpu since its not a pentium as you can see, what do yall think, would it run?

Ok. The biggest concern isn't your CPU, funny enough. The video card and your memory are your main bottlenecks, with this one. You'll want something better than a Geforce 4, for this one. Particularly the MX. It's that MX part of your video card and the smaller video-memory that'll hurt the most. If you want to go cheap and not get a latest entry, a 256MB Geforce 5200 FX card will be adequate. Make sure you get a model with that much ram. There are 5200 FX cards with less, and you generally don't want those.

The game will run on that RAM, but it'll struggle with XP Service pack 2, at times. 512MB is what you'll want more with that service pack. Of course, if you can afford to spring for the Gig, I would go that route, because Service Pack 2 with a Gig is an absolutely godsend for games and stability. It's definitely a performance boost in itself.

That's about it. Your true Athlon XP will crank out this game, fairly well. Technically, it only takes a 1.6Mhz to make it run decently, given that the other hardware is up to snuff.

mogshaz

Oct 12, 2006, 10:58 AM

Just as a reminder for anyone who wants to know the specs they need.

PC Requirements

Operating System: Windows 2000 (SP4 or later)/ XP (SP2 or later)
Processor: P4 1.6 GHz or higher
Memory: Minimum 256MB RAM
Video: higher than Geforce4 series / ATI RADEON 8500 <-- take note of "Higher than Gforce 4"
Disk Space: minimum 3.0GB (10GB required for product)
Connectivity: Online Broadband recommended
Control Options: Keyboard or Game Pad

MaKaVeLi_X

Oct 12, 2006, 12:52 PM

Hey All, New member and former DC/GC player.

Im thinking about getting PSU for my PC but its not the best.... Im wondering if It will be ok from some of you more serious PC gamers.

My comp has a AMD athlon XP 2800+ chip

2.08 ghz
448 mb of ram

I have no idea what the Video card is I will probly upgrade to 128 If i decide to get Pc psu.

thanks.

CpwninOBrien

Oct 12, 2006, 12:54 PM

id updrade ram and video card definitly

foamcup

Oct 12, 2006, 01:06 PM

Direct your questions here.

http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=115943&forum=20&51

This topic will prolly be merged with the PC one anyway. Also, how the hell do you get such an odd amount of RAM?

Mwabwetumba

Oct 12, 2006, 02:40 PM

Arrgh, I should have posted this a long time ago, and now its only 2 weeks until PSU is here!
Ive asked about both the CPU and video card, and it seems they are well enough, but you never know that might creep up.. so here are my full specs!

Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Professional version 2002 service pack 2
Processor: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.66Ghz
RAM: 2048 MB RAM
Video Card: RADEON X800 XT (256.0 MB)
Direct X 9.0c
Hard Drive Space: 83.7 Gig
Network Connection: Broadband

Id say it is good enough to run PSU... this is the final run, please help me on this one!

Kyuu

Oct 12, 2006, 03:01 PM

Mwabwetumba: Definitely good enough to run PSU, and then some.

Cojiro: -_- C'mon now. That system can eat PSU for breakfast.

Makaveli_x: Your CPU is good, but as I tell everyone else, I'd definitely recommend upgrading to 1GB of RAM if possible. I can't say how well you can run PSU without knowing what videocard you have in there.

ShijiKun: As Akaimizu said, your CPU is fine, but your RAM is on the low side, and your videocard is just ugh. MX cards are always a bad choice. Upgrade to as much RAM as you can afford, 1GB if possible.

For everyone, including Xeraphim: to recommend a videocard, we have to know your budget and what kind of expansion port your motherboard has (either AGP or PCIe). If you don't know, you can download this program (http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4181.html) to find out. It's a really nice program called Everest, and it gives you pretty comprehensive overview of your system's hardware. You just go to the Motherboard section, click Motherboard again, scroll down until you see Expansion Slots, and it'll list what you have right there. You should see either AGP or PCI express somewhere in there, depending on what you have. It's also a good download for anyone wondering what their specs are, as it'll tell you everything you need to know and then some in the Summary section.

[ This Message was edited by: Kyuu on 2006-10-12 13:08 ]

Mwabwetumba

Oct 12, 2006, 03:05 PM

Thank you so much for that, Kyuu.. that really boosted my sence of comfort^^

Oh and ofcourse, thank you VioletSkye, for all you have helped me with! (Didnt thank you last time...hope you can forgive me:D)

Xodusmage

Oct 12, 2006, 04:31 PM

Ok, I'm just hoping that my computer will run psu and wanted to check with someone who knows more about this.
My computer specs are:
Operating System = Microsoft Windows XP Professional
OS Service = Pack Service Pack 2
DirectX = 4.09.00.0904 (DirectX 9.0c)

Motherboard:
CPU Type AMD Sempron, 2000 MHz (10 x 200) 3400+
Motherboard Name Unknown
Motherboard Chipset ATI Radeon Xpress 200, AMD Hammer
System Memory 960 MB (PC3200 DDR SDRAM)
BIOS Type Award (11/15/05)
Communication Port ECP Printer Port (LPT1)

Display:
Video Adapter ATI RADEON XPRESS 200 Series (256 MB)
Video Adapter ATI RADEON XPRESS 200 Series (256 MB)
3D Accelerator ATI Radeon Xpress 200 (RS480)
I think that is all that matters, hopefully my graphics card is ok >.>

SouenNoKite

Oct 12, 2006, 04:46 PM

OK, I WILL be upgrading, but I wanna know about how much I should upgrade.

Processor: Intel Celeron 2.53 GHz
Graphics Card: Raedon 9200
RAM: 502 MB
DirectX version: 9.0

How well will I run it now, and how much more RAM should I get?

ShijinKun

Oct 12, 2006, 04:48 PM

thanks guys, ill be looking into a new video card and ram

ShijinKun

Oct 12, 2006, 05:19 PM

i have a question, is this a good video card? http://shop3.outpost.com/product/4905491?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
hope that link works

Velguarder

Oct 13, 2006, 01:06 AM

Here's my specs: (note: I'm using a Dell Latitude D610 Laptop)

Operating System: Windows XP Pro (SP2)
CPU Type: Mobile Intel Pentium M 760J, 2000 MHz (15 x 133)
System Memory: 1015 MB (DDR2-533 DDR2 SDRAM)
Video Adapter: Mobile Intel(R) 915GM/GMS,910GML Express Chipset Family (128 MB)
Disk Drive: TOSHIBA MK8026GAX (80 GB, 5400 RPM, Ultra-ATA/100)
Optical Drive: HL-DT-ST CDRW/DVD GCC4244
Network Adapter: Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx Gigabit Controller
Network Adapter: Dell Wireless 1450 Dual Band WLAN Mini-PCI Card

Velguarder

Oct 13, 2006, 01:10 AM

If thats not good enough, I'm building the following System:

Windows XP Pro (SP2)
2ghz processor (athelon, probably)
BFG Geforce 7600GS 512MB AGP Graphics Card
512MB RAM, gonna upgrade to 1gig probably

Kyuu

Oct 13, 2006, 01:53 AM

XodusMage: It will probably run... but expect to be on the low end, mostly because of your video chipset. The CPU and RAM are just fine.

SouenNoKite: Go for 1GB of RAM, if possible. You should be okay... not great, but definitely okay.

Velguarder: It is good enough, although the integrated chipset will definitely be limiting you. If you're building a new system, I would definitely not recommend going with less than 1GB of RAM. It really does make a big difference. If you have to sacrifice something, you'll be better served going cheaper on the CPU or videocard than going with less than 1GB of RAM. Also, you should probably look at getting a motherboard with a PCI Express slot rather than an AGP, as PCIe is faster, and if you want to upgrade in the future you'll have more options (since AGP is on its way out). Of course, make sure you get a PCIe videocard also.

ShijinKun: That videocard will certainly run PSU much, much better than what you have currently. Is ~$50 your budget? And are you sure your motherboard has an AGP slot?

[ This Message was edited by: Kyuu on 2006-10-12 23:54 ]

ShijinKun

Oct 13, 2006, 06:46 AM

yeah sadly enough my budget for now is that much because theres a con on the 20 that im going to, if it runs better than the one i have right now ill be happy, im also buying a 512 ram stick too, and yes my motherboard has a agp slot.

Velguarder

Oct 13, 2006, 07:31 AM

On 2006-10-12 23:53, Kyuu wrote:
XodusMage: It will probably run... but expect to be on the low end, mostly because of your video chipset. The CPU and RAM are just fine.

SouenNoKite: Go for 1GB of RAM, if possible. You should be okay... not great, but definitely okay.

Velguarder: It is good enough, although the integrated chipset will definitely be limiting you. If you're building a new system, I would definitely not recommend going with less than 1GB of RAM. It really does make a big difference. If you have to sacrifice something, you'll be better served going cheaper on the CPU or videocard than going with less than 1GB of RAM. Also, you should probably look at getting a motherboard with a PCI Express slot rather than an AGP, as PCIe is faster, and if you want to upgrade in the future you'll have more options (since AGP is on its way out). Of course, make sure you get a PCIe videocard also.

ShijinKun: That videocard will certainly run PSU much, much better than what you have currently. Is ~$50 your budget? And are you sure your motherboard has an AGP slot?

[ This Message was edited by: Kyuu on 2006-10-12 23:54 ]

How's about this motherboard: http://shop2.outpost.com/product/4753189?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

and either this card
http://shop2.outpost.com/product/4905471?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

or this card
http://shop2.outpost.com/product/4872950?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

or even this card
http://shop2.outpost.com/product/4920801?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

I just need to know which one is better (by the way, my processor (which i already have, the 2Ghz, is a socket 754, and I allready have some DDR RAM waiting, so these options might be my best route)

SouenNoKite

Oct 13, 2006, 10:26 AM

I think my PC might be maxed out at RAM, actually... My PC is pretty bad. I only have at most 4 slots, (I think it's three, actually) and I don't know if cards better than 128s will work. I'm taking it into Fry's today or tommorow to get it checked and see what I can do.

Luno

Oct 13, 2006, 01:24 PM

Ok, so I'm fairly positive I need to upgrade my graphics card. Ok, pretty much 100% positive.
But, I only want it for PSU. So I just want to upgrade just enough for it to run smoothly (I don't care if it's on low settings).

Here are my current specs:

Pentium 4 CPU 1.90GHz
640MB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce3 Ti 200 with 64MB total memory (yeah, I know.)

Ok, so I think I just need a new graphics card.
Could someone help me out on finding the cheapest working graphics card I could use? I also don't really know how to install it once I get it, but I know someone who does.
I've got an AGP2X system slot with a data bus width of 32 bits and a bunch of PCI slots, if that's important (someone told me to find that out).

Thanks in advance.

Luno

Oct 13, 2006, 02:24 PM

Ok, so my mom is thinking about buying a new computer all together because her company gets a discount on Dells. So I looked at the package and everything...would a 256MB nVidia Geforce 7300LE TurboCache be good enough?

Velguarder

Oct 13, 2006, 03:09 PM

Luno, I'm no expert, but I think the 256MB nVidia Geforce 7300LE TurboCache (long name x.X) would be able to run PSU just fine.

Xodusmage

Oct 13, 2006, 07:44 PM

What videocard do you suggest that I get so that it isn't slow / on the lower end

lostinseganet

Oct 13, 2006, 08:50 PM

On 2006-10-10 16:25, VioletSkye wrote:
Hands down the 7600GT is easily one of if not the best AGP card for the price http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

how the phone there (^_^)
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/02/13/nvidias_geforce_7800gs_becomes_a_better_buy/

Luno

Oct 13, 2006, 10:31 PM

On 2006-10-13 13:09, Velguarder wrote:
Luno, I'm no expert, but I think the 256MB nVidia Geforce 7300LE TurboCache (long name x.X) would be able to run PSU just fine.

Ok, thanks. Does anyone know for sure, though? I don't want to be stuck with something that doesn't work. On the dell site it says "average" for 3D gaming, but I don't know whether to really pay attention to that or not.

VioletSkye

Oct 13, 2006, 11:15 PM

On 2006-10-13 18:50, lostinseganet wrote:

On 2006-10-10 16:25, VioletSkye wrote:
Hands down the 7600GT is easily one of if not the best AGP card for the price http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

how the phone there (^_^)
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/02/13/nvidias_geforce_7800gs_becomes_a_better_buy/

The 7800GS is a very good card to be sure, however I'm looking at it from a price vs. performance standpoint and I think the 7600GT is the better bargain. The article that you linked to is quite a bit older than this one:
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/09/26/the_best_gaming_video_cards_for_the_money/

The above article explains pretty well why "for the money" the 7600GT is a better buy.

http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/09/26/the_best_gaming_video_cards_for_the_money/page6.html

"And while it's safe to say that the best AGP card available for over $200 is the 7800 GS, it is very difficult to recommend it at a price point of over $240 because at stock clock speeds it performs similarly to the 7600 GT AGP, which costs much less."

Blitzkommando

Oct 13, 2006, 11:46 PM

On 2006-10-13 12:24, Luno wrote:
Ok, so my mom is thinking about buying a new computer all together because her company gets a discount on Dells. So I looked at the package and everything...would a 256MB nVidia Geforce 7300LE TurboCache be good enough?

Try to get the next step up card. The "Turbo Cache" cards use system memory to suplement actual memory on the card itself which makes them perform just slightly above an onboard solution. I'm assuming the next step up is a 7300 GT (or GS) or 7600 GS. I just purchased a 7600 GS (512MB edition) for my secondary computer and it works very well for the price. The 256MB edition is slower, but should pack plenty of punch for PSU. Even a 7300 GS/GT would be sufficient, albeit, close to a 6200-6600 performance.

Luno

Oct 13, 2006, 11:58 PM

On 2006-10-13 21:46, Norvekh wrote:

Try to get the next step up card. The "Turbo Cache" cards use system memory to suplement actual memory on the card itself which makes them perform just slightly above an onboard solution. I'm assuming the next step up is a 7300 GT (or GS) or 7600 GS. I just purchased a 7600 GS (512MB edition) for my secondary computer and it works very well for the price. The 256MB edition is slower, but should pack plenty of punch for PSU. Even a 7300 GS/GT would be sufficient, albeit, close to a 6200-6600 performance.

Hm. The next up available in this package is the 256MB ATI Radeon X1300 Pro. Is that sufficient?

Luno

Oct 14, 2006, 11:00 AM

répondez s'il vous plaît

Fleece

Oct 14, 2006, 12:55 PM

Hmmm x1300 is a budget card but itll run PSU

Kyuu

Oct 14, 2006, 01:32 PM

On 2006-10-13 05:31, Velguarder wrote:

How's about this motherboard: http://shop2.outpost.com/product/4753189?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

and either this card
http://shop2.outpost.com/product/4905471?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

or this card
http://shop2.outpost.com/product/4872950?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

or even this card
http://shop2.outpost.com/product/4920801?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

I just need to know which one is better (by the way, my processor (which i already have, the 2Ghz, is a socket 754, and I allready have some DDR RAM waiting, so these options might be my best route)
I would advise trying to find a different motherboard, as there really is no point in paying for a motherboard with onboard video if you're planning to have a dedicated card right off the bat. Also, it's a common tendency to kind of skimp out on the motherboard. Don't do that. Spend a little more to get a really good motherboard. The motherboard is where everything gets plugged into, and the chipset and design can have a significant impact on the performance of your rig.

As far as the videocard goes, I would advise going with a 7600 GT. It's in nearly the same price range, and while it only has 256MB of memory, the chipset itself is significantly faster than the 7300's, which more than offsets the lower amount of memory. Also, doing a little research on eVGA's site, I can see that they're using DDR2 on their 7300's, rather than GDDR3. That means they're yet slower.

Actually, scratch that. The X1900GT's are yet better, and they have some open box deals on Newegg with X1900GT's for pretty cheap:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102022R
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814142068R

I would definitely go for that if it's in your price range. A fairly large performance difference between that and any GeForce 7300 card, and better than the 7600s as well.

@ Luno: Yes, the X1300 will run PSU just fine.

Again, everyone, if you really want us to recommend you a videocard, the best thing to do is this:

1) Give us your budget. As in, how much you are willing to spend on a new card.

2) Let us know whether you have an AGP or PCIe slot. I previously linked to a program called Everest and gave directions on how to use it to find out, if you have no idea how to find out otherwise. (Hint: It'll also list it in your motherboard manual. It might even be somewhere in whatever literature came with your brand-name machine.)

[ This Message was edited by: Kyuu on 2006-10-15 00:59 ]

Dude1982

Oct 15, 2006, 12:28 AM

I have the following video card:
Integrated Intel Extreme graphics with up to 64 MB shared video memory

Is this video card sufficient? Can this video card be upgraded or is it imbedded into the mother board?

Gorge

Oct 15, 2006, 01:45 AM

Hello all! I am new to the forums and very excited about PSU, it has been too long since I have played Phantasy Star (PSO on GC was the last time I played).

Anyways, here are my specs. I know my computer can run it, but my question is more so, will it run it very well? I want to make sure it'll look somewhat pretty (at least better than the PS2). If anyone has played the beta and has a system around my level, if you could post a screenshot it would be greatly appreciated.

AMD 64-bit 3500+ (2.2 gHz but comparable to a p4 3.0 in performance speeds)
ATI Radeon 9800 AGP 8x
1 gig of Corsair Ram
only 4 gigs of space on HD (hehe I need to clean some files up)

VioletSkye

Oct 15, 2006, 01:23 PM

On 2006-10-14 22:28, Dude1982 wrote:
I have the following video card:
Integrated Intel Extreme graphics with up to 64 MB shared video memory

Is this video card sufficient? Can this video card be upgraded or is it imbedded into the mother board?

There are a few desktop motherboards with that chipset but generally speaking it is found on laptops so I'll assume that's what you have. It will run PSU, but your performance will vary greatly on how much system RAM you have installed (even though the chipset will only allocate 64MB for video.) Don't expect any eye candy and you'll likely be playing in a lower resolution with compressed textures and post effects turned off, but it will run. If you have a desktop pc also that is more capable in the graphics arena then the pc version would be ok for you especially if you wanted to occassionally play on the go with your laptop, however if the laptop is your only pc and you have a 360 or PS2, then that may be the way to go.

The chipset can't be upgraded because it is indeed embedded into the motherboard.

On 2006-10-14 23:45, Gorge wrote:
Hello all! I am new to the forums and very excited about PSU, it has been too long since I have played Phantasy Star (PSO on GC was the last time I played).

Anyways, here are my specs. I know my computer can run it, but my question is more so, will it run it very well? I want to make sure it'll look somewhat pretty (at least better than the PS2). If anyone has played the beta and has a system around my level, if you could post a screenshot it would be greatly appreciated.

AMD 64-bit 3500+ (2.2 gHz but comparable to a p4 3.0 in performance speeds)
ATI Radeon 9800 AGP 8x
1 gig of Corsair Ram
only 4 gigs of space on HD (hehe I need to clean some files up)

Should be just fine at mid-high settings with Frameskip set to 1.

Fleece

Oct 15, 2006, 07:21 PM

On 2006-10-14 22:28, Dude1982 wrote:
I have the following video card:
Integrated Intel Extreme graphics with up to 64 MB shared video memory

Is this video card sufficient? Can this video card be upgraded or is it imbedded into the mother board?

Hmm Can you post your full specs....ive seen a few desktops with these onboard graphics...so telling us between laptop or desktop would be very good http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

LordGhaleon

Oct 17, 2006, 10:02 AM

Not to bring a thread back from the dead, but I need some input on my pc. It's getting old and wanted some opinions on if I should try to play it on pc or just on PS2 (I have no XBox 360).

Pentium 4 2.00 GHz
512 RAM
NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400 - this is what really worries me

I know that's old so don't poke too much fun at me for it, but I'm not primarily a PC gamer. It was able to run Planetside, SW Galaxies, and WoW decently during the brief time I played them.

Kyuu

Oct 17, 2006, 10:13 PM

On 2006-10-17 08:02, LordGhaleon wrote:

Not to bring a thread back from the dead, but I need some input on my pc. It's getting old and wanted some opinions on if I should try to play it on pc or just on PS2 (I have no XBox 360).

Pentium 4 2.00 GHz
512 RAM
NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400 - this is what really worries me

I know that's old so don't poke too much fun at me for it, but I'm not primarily a PC gamer. It was able to run Planetside, SW Galaxies, and WoW decently during the brief time I played them.
Your CPU is fine, as is your RAM (although, as usual, I very much recommend upgrading to 1GB if at all possible - it's a cheap upgrade that can do wonders for your system's performance). Unfortunately, I really don't know if a GeForce2 MX will be able to run PSU at all. I don't know of anyone who has any experience trying it with that chipset. Considering even the piss poor integrated Intel chipsets can run PSU, albeit at low settings, you may in fact be able to run it. But I wouldn't count on it.

Since you can get a videocard that can run PSU much better in the range of $50 or so, I'd recommend that you put together some cash from somewhere and just upgrade.

MaximusLight

Oct 18, 2006, 12:04 AM

So I finally I'm going to get my RAM up to 2 GB it is at 512 MB right now and I have a 200M integrated how much improvement in graphic should I expect/aim for?

fcukReality

Oct 18, 2006, 12:23 AM

2.8 GHz
Radeon 9600
1.5 G RAM

...how do you think it should run...you think it could pull off med - high?

-Break-

Oct 18, 2006, 12:28 AM

Right now I'm looking between these two laptops, The Aurora m9700 (http://www.alienware.com/product_detail_pages/Aurora_m9700/aurora-m_overview.aspx?SysCode=PC-LT-AURORA-M-9700&SubCode=SKU-DEFAULT) and The Area-51 m7700 (http://www.alienware.com/product_detail_pages/area-51_m7700/area-51_m7700_features.aspx?SysCode=PC-LT-AREA51-M-7700&SubCode=SKU-DEFAULT)
The Area-51 m7700 has a pentium 4 and thus more Ghz while the Aurora has a less powerful processor. Does the SLI dual graphic cards really make that much of a difference? It's kind of rip off that it comes with the single card and they charge you $400-$700 to have the dual cards they emphasize so much. Right now, statwise the Area-51 7700 looks like a much better deal. Anyone with any experience with these models have some input?

Azurewrath

Oct 18, 2006, 12:32 AM

Hey.
AMD Sempron 3100+(1.8Ghz, Un-OC'D)
Gig of Ram
NVidia Geforce 4 Ti4200.

Kyuu

Oct 18, 2006, 01:05 AM

On 2006-10-17 22:28, -Break- wrote:

Right now I'm looking between these two laptops, The Aurora m9700 (http://www.alienware.com/product_detail_pages/Aurora_m9700/aurora-m_overview.aspx?SysCode=PC-LT-AURORA-M-9700&SubCode=SKU-DEFAULT) and The Area-51 m7700 (http://www.alienware.com/product_detail_pages/area-51_m7700/area-51_m7700_features.aspx?SysCode=PC-LT-AREA51-M-7700&SubCode=SKU-DEFAULT)
The Area-51 m7700 has a pentium 4 and thus more Ghz while the Aurora has a less powerful processor. Does the SLI dual graphic cards really make that much of a difference? It's kind of rip off that it comes with the single card and they charge you $400-$700 to have the dual cards they emphasize so much. Right now, statwise the Area-51 7700 looks like a much better deal. Anyone with any experience with these models have some input?
Well, I doubt you're going to see anyone with much experience with two Alienware systems, and though I have no personal experience, I'll offer what limited input I can.

As far as SLI goes, yes, it does make a difference. However, it's not a 100% increase anymore than dual-channel RAM gives you a 100% increase in RAM speeds. The actual increase in performance in most games is in the realm of 20-50%, from what I've heard. Obviously, many factors come into play, like how well the game itself supports dual-GPUs, what cards are in your SLI setup, the rest of your system etc. and so on.

For laptops, an SLI setup generally means the laptop is going to be less of a, well, laptop, and more of a portable desktop. It's going to run hot, and it's going to run loud, and it's not going to be the most compact or lightest system around. If that doesn't bother you and you just want maximum performance, then no problem. But if you want some degree of actual laptop in your laptop, you're better off with a single GPU setup.

My personal opinion is to go with the Area-51, if you're set on having one of the Alienwares. It'll run PSU beautifully, certainly, as well as most other games now and into the near future. If you go with the Go 7900 GTX, that is, since I notice that that default setup actually has a Go 6800, despite touting the 7900 all over the "details" page. ~_~ At least they don't even give you the option for less than 1GB of RAM, to protect dummies from gimping their systems (and making some extra cash for themselves, of course).

@ Azurewrath: Should run PSU, but the videocard is holding your system back. If you can upgrade, you should.

[ This Message was edited by: Kyuu on 2006-10-17 23:12 ]

-Break-

Oct 18, 2006, 01:11 AM

Thanks for input.
Yea, I am partial to the Area-51 myself, plus it has 1GB Dual Channel DDR2 SO-DIMM at 533MHz - 2 x 512MB standard, thinking about going to 2GB not sure how much of a degree the difference that will make however.

Kyuu

Oct 18, 2006, 01:18 AM

On 2006-10-17 23:11, -Break- wrote:

Thanks for input.
Yea, I am partial to the Area-51 myself, plus it has 1GB Dual Channel DDR2 SO-DIMM at 533MHz - 2 x 512MB standard, thinking about going to 2GB not sure how much of a degree the difference that will make however.
It will make a difference, but not nearly as much as the difference between a 512MB system and a 1GB system. The nicest thing is that you could turn the Swap File off and never miss it (unless you plan on running Oblivion, Photoshop, and miscellaneous other things all at the same time), which is nice for performance. If you have the money to spare, go for it. If you're looking to save some money, I'd say don't bother. Presently, 1GB is generally more than sufficient.

-Break-

Oct 18, 2006, 01:21 AM

Awesome, thanks for the tips Kyuu, you've been a great help.

MaximusLight

Oct 18, 2006, 01:47 AM

Darn I dislike it when the post happens at the end of the page, Kyuu what do you think? (see previous page)

Kyuu

Oct 18, 2006, 03:24 AM

My apologies Maximum, I did indeed miss your post (and, er, Reality's as well). I hate it when my posts are at the end of a page too. =P

Anyway, I'm not entirely sure what your question is. Are you asking how much improvement in performance you'll see because of the RAM upgrade, or what kind of video chipset upgrade you should be looking at?

In either case, I think I can answer both in one go: while yes, the RAM upgrade will certainly help, with an integrated chipset like that, you still aren't going to see very good performance. Assuming this is a desktop system, I'd strongly advise that you put it a dedicated videocard in your computer's AGP slot (I assume it's AGP, I don't think they produce many boards with the 200M integrated chipsets that have PCIe slots, if any). If your budget is heavily limited, you could buy a videocard that'd perform much, much better for the cost of the second 1GB of RAM. Upgrading RAM is good, but it won't jump start a system that is being bogged down by a barebones graphics chipset.

@ Reality: You could probably pull of medium-ish settings with frameskip set to 1, assuming your CPU is a P4, Athlon XP, or better (again, for everyone, your CPU's brand and model are important too, not just the clock speed).

Oh, and you're quite welcome Break. ^_^

[ This Message was edited by: Kyuu on 2006-10-18 01:25 ]

Azurewrath

Oct 18, 2006, 11:01 AM

Hey.
AMD Sempron 3100+(1.8Ghz, Un-OC'D)
Gig of Ram
NVidia Geforce 4 Ti4200.

Will it run ok?

Thanks ;D Bumped my old post lol.

DeathKnight

Oct 18, 2006, 12:50 PM

i have to make sure my system will meet requirements so i'm going to ask you guys >>

Pentium 4 CPU (3.0 GHz)
2 GB RAM
NVidia GeForce FX520 (PCI) 256 MB DDR

so? verdict anyone? :/

i'm hoping that will at least run it at medium which is fine for me

Kyuu

Oct 18, 2006, 01:09 PM

@ Azurewrath: I gave my opinion up here (http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=115943&forum=20&start=825&840#828) on post number 828 (http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=115943&forum=20&start=825&840#828). Look towards the bottom of the post.

@ DeathKnight: Yes, you meet the requirements. I assume you mean an FX5200... but is it really a plain PCI card? If so, that's a detriment to performance. My guess is that you'll be at the lower end of settings if you want an acceptable framerate.

@ Fleece and Violetskye: Hey, feel free to jump in any time and correct me. I don't have near the tech experience of either of you guys.

@ Sega: Why oh why didn't you put in widescreen resolutions and automatic frameskip for the PC version...

Azurewrath

Oct 18, 2006, 02:49 PM

My bad Kyuu! Sorry! Thanks. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif I don't have lots of money to spend on Upgrades. To be honest, I jsut came from an Integrated SIS 760 Card. Horrible. I couldn't even run Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire from like 2000. (Don't ask ._.). It was the worst card ever. I got my Ti4200 From Ebay for.. 25 dollars or something. Really, it's alot better then any other 4th generation Geforce. Supposedly it performs like a better card, just has older Software. Dx8 I think. But I run CS:S Iceworld at 150 FPS, 200 at times, and Flatout 2 runs mint.

If anyone has a bad card that makes games unplayable and want a really cheap card (Ebay), i'd reccomend Ti4200 (I'll have the Japanese version of PSU tomorrow, I'll tell you guys how it runs.)

Feyz

Oct 18, 2006, 02:57 PM

Kyuu, it's cool of you to answer all these questions and comment on all these people's pc set ups.

I wonder if you could tell me if I could run on max (or near-max) settings?

I have a Gateway PC with 3.0Ghz processor, 1.5 gigs of ram, 256 ATI AGP card (forget exact name), and a 200gb hd (180gb+ is free). I'm guessing it should run pretty well on my system but can I max it out or will it slow down on max settings?

Garnet_Moon

Oct 18, 2006, 04:50 PM

GeForce FX 5500 (I want to say it's 256, but i'm not certain.)
AMD Sempron 3100+ (1.81 GHz)
896 RAM (Should be a gig. Hmm.)

My main computer is kind of broken right now and i'm letting it dry out before I do anything with it. I hate when it rains here. Leaked right above my good computer.

My question is will this computer play PSU faithfully or will I have to buy it on PS2 until my main works again? I assume we can use character data from the PS2 version on the PC version as well, because I haven't read anything saying otherwise.

As for "Higher than GeForce4" is concerned, that doesn't mean anything to me because I don't know much about video cards. I don't even know what is in my other computer but boy does it ever run the Battlefield 2142 demo superbly. I tried the same demo on this one, and... well, I couldn't do anything when the game finally loaded.

So, should I get the PS2 version for now and then get the PC version when my other computer dries out, or will this computer play it well enough that lag won't be an issue versus a PS2?

I did a search on as many combinations of "FX 5500" I could think of and the closest I could find was "FX5900".

[ This Message was edited by: Garnet_Moon on 2006-10-18 14:53 ]

February

Oct 18, 2006, 04:55 PM

On 2006-10-18 12:57, Feyz wrote:
Kyuu, it's cool of you to answer all these questions and comment on all these people's pc set ups.

I wonder if you could tell me if I could run on max (or near-max) settings?

I have a Gateway PC with 3.0Ghz processor, 1.5 gigs of ram, 256 ATI AGP card (forget exact name), and a 200gb hd (180gb+ is free). I'm guessing it should run pretty well on my system but can I max it out or will it slow down on max settings?

I(t should run fine on that setup on max settings. My friend is running max settings with the same video card, 1 Gig of Ram and a 2.5 Processor.

Kyuu

Oct 18, 2006, 05:05 PM

Hey, I had the Ti4600 before I upgraded to my 6800 GT. They're not bad cards at all. But, they are outdated. Like I said, though, it probably (I hesitate to give any kind of definite answer) will run PSU, but I'm fairly certain you'll have to keep the settings low.

Please do let us know how it runs, Azurewrath. Don't have any info on how older GeForce 4-series cards handle PSU currently, as far as I know.

Feyz: If I had to guess, I'd say you probably will be able to run PSU at near max settings. Of course, I have to make a couple assumptions about your CPU (I assume it's a P4 or equivalent) and that you have a good card, but I really do have to have the name of the card to give a more accurate guesstimate. Easiest way is to go into your Start menu, click "Run...", type in "dxdiag" (without the quotes), click on the Display tab, and the very first thing listed is the name of your videocard.

My recommendations for people wanting to upgrade their videocards on a tight budget:
AGP: GeForce 6600 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814143056) or Radeon X1300 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814129065)
PCIe: X800 GTO (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814131007)

[ This Message was edited by: Kyuu on 2006-10-18 15:07 ]

Garnet_Moon

Oct 18, 2006, 05:11 PM

On 2006-10-18 15:05, Kyuu wrote:
Hey, I had the Ti4600 before I upgraded to my 6800 GT. They're not bad cards at all. But, they are outdated. Like I said, though, it probably (I hesitate to give any kind of definite answer) will run PSU, but I'm fairly certain you'll have to keep the settings low.

Please do let us know how it runs, Azurewrath. Don't have any info on how older GeForce 4-series cards handle PSU currently, as far as I know.

Feyz: If I had to guess, I'd say you probably will be able to run PSU at near max settings. Of course, I have to make a couple assumptions about your CPU (I assume it's a P4 or equivalent) and that you have a good card, but I really do have to have the name of the card to give a more accurate guesstimate. Easiest way is to go into your Start menu, click "Run...", type in "dxdiag" (without the quotes), click on the Display tab, and the very first thing listed is the name of your videocard.

My recommendations for people wanting to upgrade their videocards on a tight budget:
AGP: GeForce 6600 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814143056) or Radeon X1300 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814129065)
PCIe: X800 GTO (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814131007)

[ This Message was edited by: Kyuu on 2006-10-18 15:07 ]

Sorry to sound like a nag, but am I in the clear?

GeForce FX 5500
AMD Sempron 3100+ (1.8GHz)
896 ram

(in case it was missed because it was at the very bottom of the last page)

You seem to know what you're talking about, and since I have no idea what tiers of video cards there are; let alone what mine falls in, I figured i'd ask you directly.

[ This Message was edited by: Garnet_Moon on 2006-10-18 15:12 ]

fcukReality

Oct 18, 2006, 06:09 PM

yea its p4, thanks btw

MaximusLight

Oct 18, 2006, 08:11 PM

Haha yeah I have a laptop and therefor I upgrade my RAM http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif, thanks anyway though Kyuu I wasn't expecting a big increase just wondering if anyone had an idea of how much difference it would make I know Violetsyke did some tinkering with this so I thought I would ask.

Dr_Lantis

Oct 18, 2006, 08:26 PM

Something similar to this was probably answered but I'm wondering how high settings I'm able to play.

Pentium 4 3.06Ghz
1GB RAM
GeForce 6200 OC 256MB

DeathKnight

Oct 18, 2006, 08:33 PM

@ Kyuu: yeah, its FX5200, typo on my part. thanks for the info. here's hoping it'll run well enough so i don't have to get it for PS2 as well http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Sgt_Shligger

Oct 18, 2006, 08:48 PM

Well, for what it's worth, my settings are
e-GeForce 6600LE 256MB+
AMD Sempron 3200+ (1.8GHz)
1.25GB RAM

I can run 60FPS with no post effects, and 16bit color at 1024x768. I can run most effects at 800x600. I can run full effects but at minimum resolution. So I can get low-medium graphics. Since I have a roughly mid-range PC, try using this as a comparison.

Fleece

Oct 18, 2006, 08:50 PM

On 2006-10-18 15:11, Garnet_Moon wrote:

On 2006-10-18 15:05, Kyuu wrote:
Hey, I had the Ti4600 before I upgraded to my 6800 GT. They're not bad cards at all. But, they are outdated. Like I said, though, it probably (I hesitate to give any kind of definite answer) will run PSU, but I'm fairly certain you'll have to keep the settings low.

Please do let us know how it runs, Azurewrath. Don't have any info on how older GeForce 4-series cards handle PSU currently, as far as I know.

Feyz: If I had to guess, I'd say you probably will be able to run PSU at near max settings. Of course, I have to make a couple assumptions about your CPU (I assume it's a P4 or equivalent) and that you have a good card, but I really do have to have the name of the card to give a more accurate guesstimate. Easiest way is to go into your Start menu, click "Run...", type in "dxdiag" (without the quotes), click on the Display tab, and the very first thing listed is the name of your videocard.

My recommendations for people wanting to upgrade their videocards on a tight budget:
AGP: GeForce 6600 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814143056) or Radeon X1300 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814129065)
PCIe: X800 GTO (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814131007)

[ This Message was edited by: Kyuu on 2006-10-18 15:07 ]

Sorry to sound like a nag, but am I in the clear?

GeForce FX 5500
AMD Sempron 3100+ (1.8GHz)
896 ram

(in case it was missed because it was at the very bottom of the last page)

You seem to know what you're talking about, and since I have no idea what tiers of video cards there are; let alone what mine falls in, I figured i'd ask you directly.

[ This Message was edited by: Garnet_Moon on 2006-10-18 15:12 ]

cpu is fine ram is fine, if you CAN upgrade your gfx card, if your on AGP and you can afford it go for the 7600GS If your on PCIE go for the X1600 512. good cards at low prices for what you get. If you dont want to upgrade your 5500 will run psu on medium settings with frameskip at 1

Azurewrath

Oct 18, 2006, 08:52 PM

On 2006-10-18 14:50, Garnet_Moon wrote:
GeForce FX 5500 (I want to say it's 256, but i'm not certain.)
AMD Sempron 3100+ (1.81 GHz)
896 RAM (Should be a gig. Hmm.)

Did you upgrade from your original integrated card to this? There's a chance that you didn't ever set your Bios to use the 5500, and the PC is using your integrated. (Note 128 Ram missing, your integrated card is probably leeching it.)

Try:

Start > Run > Type "dxdiag" without the quotes. > Click Display Tab.

Whats it say under Name and Chip type?

Fleece

Oct 18, 2006, 08:53 PM

On 2006-10-18 18:48, Sgt_Shligger wrote:
Well, for what it's worth, my settings are
e-GeForce 6600LE 256MB+
AMD Sempron 3200+ (1.8GHz)
1.25GB RAM

I can run 60FPS with no post effects, and 16bit color at 1024x768. I can run most effects at 800x600. I can run full effects but at minimum resolution. So I can get low-medium graphics. Since I have a roughly mid-range PC, try using this as a comparison.

theres something wrong there if you cant get full effects at 60 fps withthose settings, try putting compressed textures on, it severely reduces the bandwidth your card uses and really doesnt affect your graphics that much.

If I was you id try 1280 x 1024, 16 bit colour compressed textures, post effects on and frameskip 0 see what you get.

[ This Message was edited by: Fleece on 2006-10-18 19:03 ]

Fleece

Oct 18, 2006, 08:59 PM

On 2006-10-18 18:26, Dr_Lantis wrote:
Something similar to this was probably answered but I'm wondering how high settings I'm able to play.

Pentium 4 3.06Ghz
1GB RAM
GeForce 6200 OC 256MB

Not sure about the 6200, ive never used one. BUT comparing its statistics you should be able to run it on full with frameskip 1 and compressed textures. compressed textures is a REAL framerate hog if you hadnt guessed.

-Break-

Oct 18, 2006, 09:02 PM

So I'm planning on buying the Area-51 7700 from Alienware, there is a $300 instant rebate on it right now, and many consumer/pc mags say that now is a good time to buya computer as prices have dropped. So should I buy soon or wait in hopes that prices will drop more?

Sgt_Shligger

Oct 18, 2006, 09:08 PM

On 2006-10-18 18:53, Fleece wrote:

On 2006-10-18 18:48, Sgt_Shligger wrote:
Well, for what it's worth, my settings are
e-GeForce 6600LE 256MB+
AMD Sempron 3200+ (1.8GHz)
1.25GB RAM

I can run 60FPS with no post effects, and 16bit color at 1024x768. I can run most effects at 800x600. I can run full effects but at minimum resolution. So I can get low-medium graphics. Since I have a roughly mid-range PC, try using this as a comparison.

theres something wrong there if you cant get full effects at 60 fps withthose settings, try putting compressed textures on, it severely reduces the bandwidth your card uses and really doesnt affect your graphics that much.

If I was you id try 1280 x 1024, 16 bit colour compressed textures, post effects on and frameskip 0 see what you get.

To add, I run dual monitors >_>

I'll try your settings though.

*EDIT* Oh goodness no. The framerate is not at 60 when I run it. The e-GeForce isn't exactly the newest model in the 6600 series. . .

[ This Message was edited by: Sgt_Shligger on 2006-10-18 19:14 ]

Robotix

Oct 18, 2006, 09:19 PM

I plan on getting the PS2 version, but just because I am curious, I wonder how much I would need to upgrade to run PSU at around mid-settings.

AMD Athlon XP 1600+ 1.4GHz
512 RAM
GeForce FX5500 256MB

Sgt_Shligger

Oct 18, 2006, 09:23 PM

Correction, my dual monitor setup won't even run the game at 60FPS with low effects at 1024x768.

I'm hurt because I'm really liking my dual monitors. Is there a way I can keep dual monitors but get a new card? Woud I leave my current one in and just buy a new one?

Sable_Edge

Oct 18, 2006, 09:56 PM

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System Information
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Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2
System Manufacturer: HP Pavilion 061
System Model: PX759AA-ABA a1120n
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.06GHz
Memory: 504MB RAM
Page File: 589MB used, 907MB available
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode
Free Space: 47.5 GB
Total Space: 182.6 GB
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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 4000
Display Memory: 128.0 MB
Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (85Hz)

I looked though the topic and I have similar stats to ShijinKun, but slight differences. Do I really need to upgrade to like GeForce FX 5200? BTW, I only have PCI slots *sigh* and have only about ~$200 to spend on PSU (not including the game purchase).

Fleece

Oct 18, 2006, 10:17 PM

FFS sony do that too, it forces you to send it back to the manufacturer for an expensive upgrade. you could buy a Geforce fx 5500 with 256mB if onboard ram for one of your PCI slots if you want. or ask the manufacturer to upgrade it for you for a lot more. Ring em and find out how much itd cost for an agp slot to be added or for them to ship you an A.G.P version of your current computer. and for under 200 dollars you could definately afford a 256 MB 5500 in PCI form.

Sable_Edge

Oct 18, 2006, 10:29 PM

Muah ha ha! Great...but will the 5500 guarantee me being able to at least set settings to medium w/shadows?

pkazama

Oct 18, 2006, 10:58 PM

I really want to run with maximum settings on PSU. Will my cpu specs work? I'm using a laptop by the way.

1.86GHz, 1 GB of RAM, ATI MOBILITY RADEON X300.

If it wont i may just lower the settings a bit

Fleece

Oct 18, 2006, 11:06 PM

1.86 GHZ sounds like an AMD to me could be a centrino though, whats your actual processor model and make?

And yeah all sliders to middle with post effects should get you 30 FPS.

VioletSkye

Oct 18, 2006, 11:07 PM

I tried a laptop with similar settings and although it ran ok on low/medium settings at a rez of 800x600 it was nowhere near max settings. I had to use 16bit color, compressed textures and had post effects turned off with Frameskip set to 1 in order to get a playable framerate.

My laptop specs that I tested on are:
1.8GHz
1GB RAM
200M Xpress (which is comparable to the X300 and is actually a derivative of that graphics core.)

Weak

Oct 18, 2006, 11:08 PM

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System Information
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Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp.050329-1536)
System Manufacturer: Dell Inc.
System Model: MXG061
Processor: Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2500 @ 2.00GHz (2 CPUs)
Memory: 2046MB RAM
Page File: 526MB used, 3412MB available
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode
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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce Go 7900 GTX
Display Memory: 512.0 MB
Current Mode: 1920 x 1200 (32 bit) (60Hz)

Fleece

Oct 18, 2006, 11:12 PM

sorry i was in reference to the 5500.

Fleece

Oct 18, 2006, 11:16 PM

On 2006-10-18 21:08, Weak wrote:
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System Information
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Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp.050329-1536)
System Manufacturer: Dell Inc.
System Model: MXG061
Processor: Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2500 @ 2.00GHz (2 CPUs)
Memory: 2046MB RAM
Page File: 526MB used, 3412MB available
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode
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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce Go 7900 GTX
Display Memory: 512.0 MB
Current Mode: 1920 x 1200 (32 bit) (60Hz)

Sorry mate you cant run it, Sega has stopped any of their software running on any computers with components with the words Intel, and GTX stamped on the chips and refuses to boot on any system with 2 GB of ram. Really sorry.

Weak

Oct 18, 2006, 11:34 PM

On 2006-10-18 21:16, Fleece wrote:

On 2006-10-18 21:08, Weak wrote:
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System Information
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Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp.050329-1536)
System Manufacturer: Dell Inc.
System Model: MXG061
Processor: Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2500 @ 2.00GHz (2 CPUs)
Memory: 2046MB RAM
Page File: 526MB used, 3412MB available
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode
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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce Go 7900 GTX
Display Memory: 512.0 MB
Current Mode: 1920 x 1200 (32 bit) (60Hz)

Sorry mate you cant run it, Sega has stopped any of their software running on any computers with components with the words Intel, and GTX stamped on the chips and refuses to boot on any system with 2 GB of ram. Really sorry.

Funny http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif
Anyway, I just wanted to see the reaction.

[ This Message was edited by: Weak on 2006-10-18 21:35 ]

-Break-

Oct 18, 2006, 11:37 PM

On 2006-10-18 19:02, -Break- wrote:
So I'm planning on buying the Area-51 7700 from Alienware, there is a $300 instant rebate on it right now, and many consumer/pc mags say that now is a good time to buya computer as prices have dropped. So should I buy soon or wait in hopes that prices will drop more?

Sorry to quote myself, but I think my post got lost in the thread and I really have no knowledge of price fluctuations in the computer industry.

Garnet_Moon

Oct 18, 2006, 11:50 PM

On 2006-10-18 18:52, Azurewrath wrote:

On 2006-10-18 14:50, Garnet_Moon wrote:
GeForce FX 5500 (I want to say it's 256, but i'm not certain.)
AMD Sempron 3100+ (1.81 GHz)
896 RAM (Should be a gig. Hmm.)

Did you upgrade from your original integrated card to this? There's a chance that you didn't ever set your Bios to use the 5500, and the PC is using your integrated. (Note 128 Ram missing, your integrated card is probably leeching it.)

Try:

Start > Run > Type "dxdiag" without the quotes. > Click Display Tab.

Whats it say under Name and Chip type?

Yeah, I updated my drivers after I reinstalled the video card and memory sticks and my computer now shows like this:

AMD Sempron 3100+ (1.81GHz)
GeForce FX 5500 (256 memory)
1.00 GIG Ram

As per your question...

Name: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500 (Microsoft Corporation)
Chip Type: GeForce FX 5500.
Approx. Total Memory: 256.0MB

So... am I good, or should I get the PS2 version?

[ This Message was edited by: Garnet_Moon on 2006-10-18 21:52 ]

Kyuu

Oct 19, 2006, 12:05 AM

On 2006-10-18 21:37, -Break- wrote:

On 2006-10-18 19:02, -Break- wrote:

So I'm planning on buying the Area-51 7700 from Alienware, there is a $300 instant rebate on it right now, and many consumer/pc mags say that now is a good time to buya computer as prices have dropped. So should I buy soon or wait in hopes that prices will drop more?

Sorry to quote myself, but I think my post got lost in the thread and I really have no knowledge of price fluctuations in the computer industry.
Well, it just depends. Of course the longer you wait, the cheaper the same hardware will get. If I'd waited until now to buy my 6800 GT, I'd only be paying half what I paid when I got it over a year ago (if my memory serves correctly.. might've been even longer). But, of course, you won't have it now if you wait to buy it later.

It's a pretty good deal, really, considering it's Alienware. Prices do fluctuate occassionally, but generally, it's just new-hardware-gets-released, old-hardware-gets-prices-slashed sort of deal. In the computer world, your best bang for the buck is generally in the mid range, and the Area-51 laptop I'd say is at the upper mid, and seems a pretty good deal if you have that much cash to blow.

Dunno what else to say on the subject, perhaps Violet can help you out better.

Azurewrath

Oct 19, 2006, 01:34 AM

With my ti4200, PSU runs fine, but in High resolutions, when I go into a large area, my character runs slow. I still get good frames and all, my character just runs alot slower. I don't understand the reasoning. If my FPS is the same, how come my characters moving like a turtle? ._.

Fazeshot

Oct 19, 2006, 05:15 AM

Hey guys im looking for a card that will allow me to run on max settings but nothing incredibly expensive preferably in the 150$ range Here is my computer specs

AMD athlon 64 3400+ 2.2GHZ
Nvidia Geforce 6100 Integrated GPU
896mb Ram (dam integrated chip)

For some strange reason I am able to run the game on 800x600 and max graphics nothing turned off but i gotta have my frameskip to 3. but if i switch to 2 i get major major slowdown even if i drop graphics all the way to low

[ This Message was edited by: Fazeshot on 2006-10-19 03:16 ]

[ This Message was edited by: Fazeshot on 2006-10-19 03:19 ]

Fleece

Oct 19, 2006, 08:03 AM

Hmmm Well The X1800 GTO is good But So is the 7600 GT. If you cant afford either of those go for the x1600 or the 7600GS

Sgt_Shligger

Oct 19, 2006, 05:57 PM

On 2006-10-18 19:23, Sgt_Shligger wrote:
Correction, my dual monitor setup won't even run the game at 60FPS with low effects at 1024x768.

I'm hurt because I'm really liking my dual monitors. Is there a way I can keep dual monitors but get a new card? Woud I leave my current one in and just buy a new one?

I quote me ;o

But how do I get dual monitors running on a better card?

Xeraphim

Oct 19, 2006, 06:54 PM

On 2006-10-12 13:01, Kyuu wrote:
Mwabwetumba: Definitely good enough to run PSU, and then some.

Cojiro: -_- C'mon now. That system can eat PSU for breakfast.

Makaveli_x: Your CPU is good, but as I tell everyone else, I'd definitely recommend upgrading to 1GB of RAM if possible. I can't say how well you can run PSU without knowing what videocard you have in there.

ShijiKun: As Akaimizu said, your CPU is fine, but your RAM is on the low side, and your videocard is just ugh. MX cards are always a bad choice. Upgrade to as much RAM as you can afford, 1GB if possible.

For everyone, including Xeraphim: to recommend a videocard, we have to know your budget and what kind of expansion port your motherboard has (either AGP or PCIe). If you don't know, you can download this program (http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4181.html) to find out. It's a really nice program called Everest, and it gives you pretty comprehensive overview of your system's hardware. You just go to the Motherboard section, click Motherboard again, scroll down until you see Expansion Slots, and it'll list what you have right there. You should see either AGP or PCI express somewhere in there, depending on what you have. It's also a good download for anyone wondering what their specs are, as it'll tell you everything you need to know and then some in the Summary section.

[ This Message was edited by: Kyuu on 2006-10-12 13:08 ]

Mmkay, downloaded the program. I have 5 PCI slots and 1 AGP pro slot. And my price range should be around 100-150$ maximum for me. Any suggestions? Also, I'd prefer to go to a store and buy it, so Best Buy links and stuff are great!

Sanjiro

Oct 19, 2006, 07:23 PM

I have a windows hp with the xp features, so can someone tell me how weel psu will run from the following rankings:

Terrible
alright
great
perfect
man thats insane
woh! Mad Graphics and Speed

Wolfgate

Oct 20, 2006, 03:43 PM

I'm not that great with computers, so I need some help. My brother is already getting PSU for the PS2, so I figured I'd get it for my laptop, but I'm not sure if it will run it. Here's what I have:

Operating System: Win XP
Processor: 1600 MHz Intel(R) Pentium(R) M
RAM: 598 MHz, 1.00 GB of RAM
Video Card: GeForce FX Go5200 Total Mem: 32MB
Network: Broadband

Will that work, or will I need an upgrade in something?

[ This Message was edited by: Wolfgate on 2006-10-20 13:44 ]

Sanjiro

Oct 20, 2006, 03:52 PM

I'm thinkin about your total memory, I'm not that good with computers myself, but 32MB. I think one of the requirements were at least 320MB or something in that range. But you should check with someone more experienced... I wouldn't know for sure.

Kyuu

Oct 20, 2006, 04:15 PM

On 2006-10-18 23:34, Azurewrath wrote:

With my ti4200, PSU runs fine, but in High resolutions, when I go into a large area, my character runs slow. I still get good frames and all, my character just runs alot slower. I don't understand the reasoning. If my FPS is the same, how come my characters moving like a turtle? ._.
Because PSU doesn't have automatic frame skipping, so instead of dropping frames, everything just starts to move more slowly. Make sure your frameskip option is set to 1. If your character still runs like he's underwater, then you need to turn down some options until things are running normally.

@ Xeraphim: If you really must go to a retail store (which I don't recommend), this is the only thing I could find:
7600 GS @ CompUSA (http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?pfp=SEARCH&Ntt=7600+gs&Pn=Radeon%5FX800%5FPRO%5FVideo%5FCard&N=0&Dx=mode+matchall&Nty=1&D=7600+gs&Ntk=All&product_code=341271&Pn=GeForce_7600_GS_OC_Video_Card)

Bestbuy's cards are overpriced and they didn't even have any of the good ones in your price range. You would do much better from Newegg or Zipzoomfly.

[ This Message was edited by: Kyuu on 2006-10-20 14:25 ]

RoughLion

Oct 20, 2006, 04:39 PM

ah well i got 58GBs will that run it?

lostinseganet

Oct 20, 2006, 05:13 PM

On 2006-10-20 14:39, RoughLion wrote:
ah well i got 58GBs will that run it?

Well that is enough space to load it. Running it matters on your specs.

Garnet_Moon

Oct 21, 2006, 01:57 AM

On 2006-10-18 18:50, Fleece wrote:

On 2006-10-18 15:11, Garnet_Moon wrote:
GeForce FX 5500
AMD Sempron 3100+ (1.8GHz)
1gig ram

cpu is fine ram is fine, if you CAN upgrade your gfx card, if your on AGP and you can afford it go for the 7600GS If your on PCIE go for the X1600 512. good cards at low prices for what you get. If you dont want to upgrade your 5500 will run psu on medium settings with frameskip at 1

OK, if I get this card what can I expect to have the settings run comfortably at?

http://www.nextag.com/ATI-Radeon-X1600-Pro-87453340/prices-html

BrandonBa2

Oct 21, 2006, 04:46 AM

If I can run Star Wars Galaxies/Everquest 2/WoW/FFXI all on pretty good setting I shouldn't have a hard time running this right? Computer dies when I try to play Oblivion if that helps.

natewifi

Oct 21, 2006, 09:46 AM

this is the pc i just recently bought:

http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?pfp=BROWSE&N=200334&product_code=339764&Pn=Satellite_M105_S3064_Notebook

will this run PSU properly?

xenokai

Oct 21, 2006, 11:06 AM

I have a kinda dated gpu Nvidia Geforce FX5500 with 256meg ram. I was just wondering if anyone has a screen of it running on a FFX5500? or maybe show it running on a 5200 since 5500 is just a bit better.

Nuclearranger

Oct 21, 2006, 11:11 AM

low-med
800-600 and posably 1024-(760)? cant remember if thats right?

This going on a 4600 not running PSU at all and my Radeon X600 getting Med settings
Sorry...

Nuclearranger

Oct 21, 2006, 11:15 AM

If you have some cash just PM and we can upgrade it if you want too for not to much cash thats only if you want to though your current card will run it though.

Mikesnav

Oct 21, 2006, 11:17 AM

I know this isn't the answer you were looking for, but:
Get a new card. Assuming this isn't a laptop, anyway. Good, modern agp cards can be had for ~$110 new, much less used.

And to better answer your question: not well. The FX series wasn't great from the start, and you have one of the worst in that series.

xenokai

Oct 21, 2006, 11:25 AM

it ran ffxi pretty well. i know its outdated any card is outdated withing a day of buying the latest and greatest card lol

Nuclearranger

Oct 21, 2006, 11:26 AM

Oh its AGP.... o.o

....... ATI Radeon X1650PRO is 160$ and really easy to install.
Should run PSU at near max
http://www.newegg.com

xenokai

Oct 21, 2006, 11:35 AM

ya mins a agp 8x

Mikesnav

Oct 21, 2006, 11:42 AM

Could also go for a used 7600GS, used should be less than $100.

And never buy the flagship card, or dual cards. Waste of money. Sweet spot is always in the $200-300 range.

Nuclearranger

Oct 21, 2006, 11:43 AM

Well if you want to buy a new one just ask.

(Personaly I would wait and see how much you can get out of it and if you want a new one PM me and I can look for a Nice card that isnt to expencive. )

uhawww

Oct 21, 2006, 11:44 AM

I use a 512MB 7600GS Manually Overclocked, and this game runs like a dream. Only rare hiccups in 0 frameskip (60 fps).

I got this card open box at Fry's for USD 140

xenokai

Oct 21, 2006, 11:45 AM

what kinda card are you saying you have?

slime

Oct 21, 2006, 12:25 PM

it wont work lololol you will go into a portal and it will take 5 minutes to load just like eq lol

xenokai

Oct 21, 2006, 12:38 PM

huh EQ2 you mean? and guess what ive ran eq2 demo on my pc with this card doesnt take 5 misn to load just looks like crap lol PSU isnt even that great looking its a ps2 port. I just wondering if someone has tryed it on a card like min or less.

afcakey

Oct 21, 2006, 12:54 PM

i've played it on a fx5500, it plays decently on 800x600 or below. But you will have to play on lower settings for it to run smoothly. I suggest you upgrade even if all you have to spend is 100 bucks its well worth it.

Sotai

Oct 21, 2006, 01:09 PM

I have a FX5500 too. I was planning on upgrading Here, take a look at this link, it's a 512mb AGP card, one of the only ones I could find:
GeForce 6800XT for $145
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814141026

Of course with the new system I'm building I'll kick major lag-butt =P
2.8GHz Duel-Core AMD FX62
2GB RAM (8GB upgradable)
1GB VRAM (SLI compatible)

All I need left to purchase is the Video card and the processor, go figure, the most expensive parts.

RamenEater

Oct 21, 2006, 01:50 PM

Will a Radeon Xpress 200 series, 128 mb work?

Kyle0654

Oct 21, 2006, 02:15 PM

I'm trying to find out if I can run PSU on my laptop. I'd get it for my XBox, but I'll be out of the country without it for half of next year, and I'd rather have it on my laptop so I can still play it. I've got a pretty old laptop, but it was top-of-the-line when I bought it, and it handles things pretty well still. The only potential issue I see is my graphics card (it only supports pixel shaders 1.1). What do you think?

Mobile Intel Pentium 4 - M CPU 2.40GHz
1022MB (1.0GB) RAM
ATI Mobility Radeon 9000 AGP 64.0 MB
DirectX 9.0c

I'm a bit worried about the graphics card, and I don't want to run out and buy PSU for my laptop if it's not going to run halfway-decently (at least until mid-next year when I can buy a new computer). However, getting it for the 360 would mean less friends to play with and less portability.

[ This Message was edited by: Kyle0654 on 2006-10-21 12:22 ]

xenokai

Oct 21, 2006, 03:02 PM

On 2006-10-21 10:54, afcakey wrote:
i've played it on a fx5500, it plays decently on 800x600 or below. But you will have to play on lower settings for it to run smoothly. I suggest you upgrade even if all you have to spend is 100 bucks its well worth it.

hmm will it run at 1024x768 resolution on this card? maybe if i turn some certain graphics down?

Fleece

Oct 21, 2006, 03:38 PM

Oh god i vanish for a couple of days and my dead thread gets SPAMMED, Oh uhmmm ANYONE who wants to ask a question about their hardware PM me your specs and ill reply to you all ASAP. Id say im fairly qualified to help as i have the jap version, im a pc technician and im hardcore gamer...so yeah just PM my ass an ill get back to you.

Death-Reaper

Oct 21, 2006, 06:16 PM

My video card is a Nvida Geforce4 MX 440..will this work? ><

Mikesnav

Oct 21, 2006, 06:18 PM

Fleece

Oct 21, 2006, 06:28 PM

MX dont work

natewifi

Oct 21, 2006, 07:29 PM

i asked this question before (i dont know how to quote so bare with me)

this is the pc i just recently purchased:

http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?pfp=BROWSE&N=200334&product_code=339764&Pn=Satellite_M105_S3064_Notebook

Can this run PSU?

natewifi

Oct 21, 2006, 08:05 PM

can someone help me, i need to know this

Rina

Oct 21, 2006, 08:11 PM

Will a GeForce 6600 GT(overclocked) work? I'm just curious, ; ;a

Xeraphim

Oct 21, 2006, 08:13 PM

On 2006-10-20 14:15, Kyuu wrote:

On 2006-10-18 23:34, Azurewrath wrote:

With my ti4200, PSU runs fine, but in High resolutions, when I go into a large area, my character runs slow. I still get good frames and all, my character just runs alot slower. I don't understand the reasoning. If my FPS is the same, how come my characters moving like a turtle? ._.
Because PSU doesn't have automatic frame skipping, so instead of dropping frames, everything just starts to move more slowly. Make sure your frameskip option is set to 1. If your character still runs like he's underwater, then you need to turn down some options until things are running normally.

@ Xeraphim: If you really must go to a retail store (which I don't recommend), this is the only thing I could find:
7600 GS @ CompUSA (http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?pfp=SEARCH&Ntt=7600+gs&Pn=Radeon%5FX800%5FPRO%5FVideo%5FCard&N=0&Dx=mode+matchall&Nty=1&D=7600+gs&Ntk=All&product_code=341271&Pn=GeForce_7600_GS_OC_Video_Card)

Bestbuy's cards are overpriced and they didn't even have any of the good ones in your price range. You would do much better from Newegg or Zipzoomfly.

[ This Message was edited by: Kyuu on 2006-10-20 14:25 ]

I say a retail place because I have a 50$ gift card for Bestbuy burning in my pocket. But alright, I've been shown some models on Newegg.com I've considered, still making the decision.

natewifi

Oct 21, 2006, 08:16 PM

ummm...-_-'

natewifi

Oct 21, 2006, 08:41 PM

im still i little worried about if my pc can play psu, i tried the thread no answer http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

this is the pc i just recently brought:

http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?pfp=BROWSE&N=200334&product_code=339764&Pn=Satellite_M105_S3064_Notebook

i really need to know can this play PSU?

Tystys

Oct 21, 2006, 08:43 PM

Looks pretty good actually. I say you're set, but I'm confused as to what your graphics card is, O_O

Mikesnav

Oct 21, 2006, 08:45 PM

Well, it's integrated Intel crap, but it is DX9.

PSO:BB ran on Intel 8xx shit, I don't see why PSU wont run on 9xx.

McLaughlin

Oct 21, 2006, 08:46 PM

After you get it, delete any McAfee software. It blows.

Ecstasy

Oct 21, 2006, 08:47 PM

yeah i don't see where it says the graphics card it has.

Ecstasy

Oct 21, 2006, 08:48 PM

On 2006-10-21 18:46, Zeta wrote:
After you get it, delete any McAfee software. It blows.

I have to agree with you 100% McAfee sucks major ass.

Mikesnav

Oct 21, 2006, 08:48 PM

Intel 945GM Express = Chipset which includes integrated video (950 i believe)

natewifi

Oct 21, 2006, 08:51 PM

i no mhm, i couldnt find one either -_-' that was my most concern

Tystys

Oct 21, 2006, 08:52 PM

Hmm, now I'm not so sure. The system itself looks great, it's just the intergrated graphics card....you can try it, and there's a good possibility of it working....but don't just base it on my opinion alone. Don't worry, you'll get another answer soon, this forum is extremely active O_O

VioletSkye

Oct 21, 2006, 09:23 PM

On 2006-10-21 18:16, natewifi wrote:
ummm...-_-'

It will run on low/medium settings at a lower resolution of 800x600 with compressed textures, 16bit color, post effects turned off and frameskip set to 1. It won't be the prettiest experience but it should run smoothly enough to be playable.

Eviltaru

Oct 21, 2006, 09:59 PM

On 2006-10-21 18:41, natewifi wrote:
im still i little worried about if my pc can play psu, i tried the thread no answer http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

this is the pc i just recently brought:

http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?pfp=BROWSE&N=200334&product_code=339764&Pn=Satellite_M105_S3064_Notebook

i really need to know can this play PSU?

Looks all fine, you'll be able to run it, but I ain't sure which quality you'll be getting it's either low/med settings... and take a note laptop are not really for gaming but yea I'm really sure you can run it.

Emgro

Oct 21, 2006, 10:01 PM

I'm wondering what kind of graphics settings I can expect with-
1.6 Ghz Processor
1.0 GB RAM
GeoForce Go 6800 graphics card
And a cable 'net connection (doesn't really matter, but anyway)

That should run the game, I'm just wondering how pretty it will be.

Kyuu

Oct 21, 2006, 10:06 PM

On 2006-10-21 20:01, Emgro wrote:
I'm wondering what kind of graphics settings I can expect with-
1.6 Ghz Processor
1.0 GB RAM
GeoForce Go 6800 graphics card
And a cable 'net connection (doesn't really matter, but anyway)

That should run the game, I'm just wondering how pretty it will be.
What kind of processor is that?

Again, everyone, a CPUs clock speed by itself doesn't mean much. The brand and model of it are important (i.e. AMD Athlon, Intel Pentium 4, etc.).

Emgro

Oct 21, 2006, 10:09 PM

Sorry, forgot about that. Intel Pentium M Processor.

Mikesnav

Oct 21, 2006, 10:09 PM

Go 6800...

It's either a Turion/K8, or Core, or M. Either way, you're set, and you're gonna be playing it at high settings.

[ This Message was edited by: Mikesnav on 2006-10-21 20:10 ]

BrandonBa2

Oct 21, 2006, 10:25 PM

If intergrated graphics work then thats pretty amazing.

Kyuu

Oct 21, 2006, 10:51 PM

Yeah, Mikesnav is right. You'll be playing PSU at pretty decent settings. Nothing really to worry about there.

Fleece

Oct 21, 2006, 11:32 PM

lol Pentium M are shit to be fair its worth about 2 GHZ in Real speed terms..... But it wont cause you much slowdown unless your windowed. you lose about 10 frames per second having PSU windowed.....ITS LAME.....Lol. No but seriously the processor is mainly only used in streaming data off the hard drive on PSU and that hardly happens.

[ This Message was edited by: VioletSkye on 2006-10-22 11:07 ]

Mikesnav

Oct 21, 2006, 11:35 PM

That's so wrong... you'd be better off not posting.

Fleece

Oct 21, 2006, 11:42 PM

kekekekekekeekeke Typo'd too http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

2.2 - 2.4 GHZ Real speed

Its also 6 am so cut me some slack you whiner.

M'off to bed night Folks.

[ This Message was edited by: Fleece on 2006-10-21 21:43 ]

Croix

Oct 22, 2006, 12:12 AM

Since I caught a case of the lazy, I'll just paste this straight out of the spec sheet I had emailed to me...

Processor: Intel® Pentium® M 770 2.13GHz 2MB L2 Cache 533MHz FSB
Memory: 2GB Dual Channel DDR2 SO-DIMM at 533MHz - 2 x 1024MB
Video/Graphics Card: 256MB NVidia® GeForce™ Go 6800

Do you think this will run smoothly on high settings?

Mable

Oct 22, 2006, 01:28 AM

I have been having a horrible time getting ready for this game.. Computer wise. I feel as if I won't be able to run it at all.. I would just like to know if this would do for a bit.

Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz 2
Memory: 1022MB RAM
Video/Graphics Card: 256MB ATI Radeon X1300 Series
~~The Videocard is a Visiontek brand for PCI (Not PCI-E), its possibly one of the best videocards a PCI slot will take at this moment in the world (That doesn't cost an arm and a leg, But i still feel it wont be able to handle PSU) (SO far I ran Fable with high settings)~~

I have a 7600GT Nvidia chilling next to my monitor right now but sadly I don't have a single PCI-E slot in my crappy Intel motherboard (Its just PCI). I'm pretty worried cause I would love to replace the mother board but my computer is a Dell I got from my dad. From what everyone has been telling me its pretty impossible to do that because the power supply is integrated into the dell computer and wouldn't take a different power supply at all if u changed its motherboard, even if thats possible.

Its madness. But would my current set up shown above work for awhile until I get all my other stuff set up.

Kyuu

Oct 22, 2006, 01:35 AM

Oh definitely, Mable. Even being a plain PCI card, your system is more than strong enough to run PSU at decent settings.

I find it odd that even a Dell wouldn't have an AGP or PCIe slot in there. Are you quite sure that card isn't plugged into an AGP slot? Or that there isn't a free AGP slot in there?

@ Criox: Don't even worry about it. PSU will run quite well for you.

[ This Message was edited by: Kyuu on 2006-10-21 23:36 ]

DrEngrish

Oct 22, 2006, 02:08 AM

On 2006-10-21 23:35, Kyuu wrote:
Oh definitely, Mable. Even being a plain PCI card, your system is more than strong enough to run PSU at decent settings.

I find it odd that even a Dell wouldn't have an AGP or PCIe slot in there. Are you quite sure that card isn't plugged into an AGP slot? Or that there isn't a free AGP slot in there?

@ Criox: Don't even worry about it. PSU will run quite well for you.

[ This Message was edited by: Kyuu on 2006-10-21 23:36 ]

I've have had the chance to work on several Dells in the past and have found that many of their computers lack a conventional video expansion port (such as AGP/PCIE slots) on their motherboards. Its nothing out of the ordinary, just a sales scheme to get people to upgrade the whole system instead of components.

BrandonBa2

Oct 22, 2006, 02:17 AM

Video Card: 256mb GeForce FX 5500
CPU: Pentium 4 2.0GHZ
Ram: 1 gig

I can run Everquest 2/Star Wars Galaxies/FFXI/WoW all on not lowest settings. So I'm guessing I can run this but just want to make sure.

PLURSprout

Oct 22, 2006, 02:17 AM

Ok, because I was worried I went ahead and played the japanese version on my Notebook, and here are the results.
(BTW, brand is, HP Pavilion ze2000 if you need to know)

The movies ran beautiful, there was no lag at all. Some of the scenes were choppy for the beginning(but they lasted the same amount of time as they should), but as far as battle was concerned everything worked smoothly when set to the lowest settings (I found that a framerate of 3 really helped though, and I didn't really miss much as far as detail, and changing most of the details to mid or high didn't really seem to make it that much slower). Also running around the city was fine. I'll give an update when I a)change to a force, or b)get into more detailed battle scenes (I'd imagine techs should showcase how much my graphics can take).

As far as my specs go

Processor: AMD Turion 64 1.79 GHz
Memory: 1 Gig Ram
Video Card: ATI Radeon Xpress 200M

Mable

Oct 22, 2006, 02:19 AM

Hmm yah for the computer itself, it has 3 PCI slots, no AGP, no PCI-E, and 2 slots for memory. Dissapointing for a Pentium 4. **Shakes fist at Dell**

BrandonBa2

Oct 22, 2006, 02:20 AM

PCI makes me cry as I have more computers with AGP then PCI so a lot of parts goto waste http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

DrEngrish

Oct 22, 2006, 03:00 AM

On 2006-10-22 00:17, BrandonBa2 wrote:
Video Card: 256mb GeForce FX 5500
CPU: Pentium 4 2.0GHZ
Ram: 1 gig

I can run Everquest 2/Star Wars Galaxies/FFXI/WoW all on not lowest settings. So I'm guessing I can run this but just want to make sure.

Just as you were saying, your system should be able to run PSU with no problems. If you want to though, you could pick up a pretty decent video card upgrade for under $100 from somewhere like Newegg.

SleepyFrog

Oct 22, 2006, 05:04 AM

My current setup:

Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ 2.0 GHz
Memory: 1 gig
Video card: GeForce 6600 GT 128 MB

I'm just curious about what kind of settings I'd be able to use and still play smoothly. Thanks guys.

atomisk

Oct 22, 2006, 01:20 PM

well, i have an xbox 360 and really wanna get psu for it but it just dosnt make much sense for me to get it for a few reasons (I hate voice chat with a passion and I live in a house with 3 other guys so they prolly wouldnt appreciate how much I'd use the xbox) so anyway, this is my laptop: AMD athlon 3200+, 512 mb of ram, and a mobility radeon xpress 200 (not entirely sure but im almost positive its 128 mb, if someone could confirm or deny that it would be awesome) anyway, how much worse is my laptop gonna run psu than a 360?

February

Oct 22, 2006, 01:25 PM

I have 1 gig of RAM and a 128 Video card and it runs sluggish on mine unless I turn most of the effects off.

Ecstasy

Oct 22, 2006, 01:29 PM

the xpress 200 is made more for duel monitoring, and to run bussiness softwar better. It is ok for gaming i would deffently upgrade you ram to alteast 1GB with that card.

EnixBelmont

Oct 22, 2006, 01:30 PM

I need a better video card too. TC, it'd probably be able to run fine on low, but it'd be much worse than your 360.

atomisk

Oct 22, 2006, 01:35 PM

damnit, i had a feeling that would be the answer. I may or may not be able to trade my laptop for the desktop we have at home, it has a geforce fx 5600 (128 mb) not entirely sure what the processor is but I think its an AMD athlon 2800+ and 512 mb of ram but if I got that I would probably upgrade it to 1 gig of ram

Ecstasy

Oct 22, 2006, 01:35 PM

On 2006-10-22 11:30, EnixBelmont wrote:
I need a better video card too. TC, it'd probably be able to run fine on low, but it'd be much worse than your 360.

What alot of people don;t understand is resolution. if you have a PC capable of running PSU in it's highest resoultion, But only have a standard tv for the x360. The PC version would infact look much better then the x360 version. If you have a Plasma, or a LCD TV though it would look better. Unless you have a top of the line computer.

Ecstasy

Oct 22, 2006, 01:38 PM

On 2006-10-22 11:35, atomisk wrote:
damnit, i had a feeling that would be the answer. I may or may not be able to trade my laptop for the desktop we have at home, it has a geforce fx 5600 (128 mb) not entirely sure what the processor is but I think its an AMD athlon 2800+ and 512 mb of ram but if I got that I would probably upgrade it to 1 gig of ram

LOL do NOT use that fx 5600, the ATI xpress 200 is much better then the Nvedia card on you'r home PC. If you have a Ebay account you caouls easily find a 1GB card for you laptop for less then $150 bucks.

P.S. By card i mean ram ofcourse not graphics card.

[ This Message was edited by: Ecstasy on 2006-10-22 11:39 ]

Ecstasy

Oct 22, 2006, 01:40 PM

One more thing if you upgrade you'r ram altleast 512MB more. You could overclock you'r card giving you even better resoults

[ This Message was edited by: Ecstasy on 2006-10-22 11:41 ]

February

Oct 22, 2006, 01:41 PM

atomisk

Oct 22, 2006, 01:46 PM

well thats great.... none of the solutions are good ones. what would the specs of a pc be that could run the game well? (not all out, just something that looks good)

Mikesnav

Oct 22, 2006, 01:56 PM

Ignorance is the past couple posts is astounding.

xpress 200 = integrated, it's not even a discrete card.
A POS X300SE would be better than a Xpress 200.

I would recommend everyone to upgrade to a full GB of RAM if you have less, it's not just beneficial for games. At the very least more than 512MB.
Newegg is quite possibly the best place to buy it. Search of 512 or 1GB DDR2 or DDR DIMMs, depending on what you have. Buy value RAM, the higher-end stuff with heat-spreaders does very little in terms of performance (oc'ing aside on certain models).

As for video cards, if you have a low-end FX series or worse (5600 and below, GF4) or integrated video (xpress, 6100, intel), I would HIGHLY recommend you to upgrade.

PCI-Express:
$270 X1900XT
$200 7900GT
$125 7600GT
<$120 7600GS

AGP:
AGP is pretty much dead, so lower-end cards are really your only option in terms of value.
~$120 7600GS

And one final thing, a card's VRAM is not THAT important. Don't look at that when buying your card. It's just the same as frequency with processors (eg, a 2GHz C2D can and will destroy a 3+ GHz P4). A 512MB card can get its ass handed to it by a 128MB card.

EDIT:

A PC to run this on decent/high settings smoothly will start at something like this:
XP 2800+ (or above)
768MB RAM (or above)
6600GT (or above) (this is important, a discrete 3D card)

[ This Message was edited by: Mikesnav on 2006-10-22 12:00 ]

[ This Message was edited by: Mikesnav on 2006-10-22 12:14 ]

atomisk

Oct 22, 2006, 02:01 PM

I had another topic similar to this but for some reason it got deleted, anyway, I was just wondering what the specs of a pc would be that could run psu well, i dont need it to be highest resolution every effect on but i just want it to look nice.

Mikesnav

Oct 22, 2006, 02:05 PM

It was moved here:

http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=115943&forum=20&start=945&949

Ecstasy

Oct 22, 2006, 02:06 PM

yeah it was weird i was actually typing up a reply when it got deleted:P

Heres what im going to run PSU on

3.0Ghz Pentium 4 with HT tech
1.5GB PC2-4200 RAM
Mobilty Radeon x600 128MB

I should be able to run PSU at mid-hig, or high setteings. Sense My laptop runs a 144x900 pixels, and believe PSU only goes to 1280x768 pixels.

Your preccessor seems to be fine for PSU. but i would get you'r laptop another 512MB ram. Also what is the highest resoultion of you'r laptop?

VioletSkye

Oct 22, 2006, 02:07 PM

Try reading your pms atomisk http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

MaximusLight

Oct 22, 2006, 02:21 PM

All right VoiletSkye I've got one for ya...

1.6 MHz proccessor
2 Gigabytes of RAM
ATI RADEON XPRESS 200M 128 Magabytes RAM

Now can you (or anyone else) recomend the best settings for PSU for this.

Mikesnav

Oct 22, 2006, 02:49 PM

On 2006-10-22 12:46, Croix wrote:
So is it safe to assume that a 2.16 pentium M, 256mb nVidia GeForce 6800 go, and 2 gigs of ram will run it decently?

You're gonna be running it very well, on higher resolutions (1280x960+)

On 2006-10-22 12:21, MaximusLight wrote:
All right VoiletSkye I've got one for ya...

1.6 MHz proccessor
2 Gigabytes of RAM
ATI RADEON XPRESS 200M 128 Magabytes RAM

Now can you (or anyone else) recomend the best settings for PSU for this.

You're gonna have to play with the settings, but your GPU is going to limit you to low resolutions (800x600-1024x768)

atomisk

Oct 22, 2006, 04:13 PM

d'oh, now I feel like an idiot, anyway, how could I best spend $100-$125 upgrading my laptop (you can upgrade laptops right?) also, I have two 256 sticks of RAM lying around but I dont know if there are any extra slots in my laptop (how many slots do most laptops have? and would mine probably come with one 512 or two 256s?) thanks

Mikesnav

Oct 22, 2006, 04:26 PM

Most laptops can only have RAM upgraded easily.

And most laptops would come with two DIMMs (256x2 in your case).
Most laptops only have space for two DIMMs.

Open it up, google your model and add something like "adding RAM." It's very easy. It's usually just removing a battery/screw.

atomisk

Oct 22, 2006, 04:38 PM

alright, one last question before I'm done, which will psu run better on, laptop with AMD athlon 3200+ with 2ghz, a radeon xpress 200, and 1 gig 256 mb of ram. Or a desktop with an AMD athlon 2800+ (not sure how many ghz) geforce fx 5600 (128 mb), and 1 gig 512 ram

Mikesnav

Oct 22, 2006, 04:42 PM

Now, when you say 1 gig 512, do you mean 1.5GBs?

Anyway, hard to say... one has a terrible card, and one has no card. The good news is, you can put those $100-125 on a video card for that desktop, and run the game VERY well.

Kyuu

Oct 22, 2006, 04:43 PM

On 2006-10-22 11:56, Mikesnav wrote:

AGP:
AGP is pretty much dead, so lower-end cards are really your only option in terms of value.
~$120 7600GS
I'd hardly say AGP is dead. There are still many new motherboards being shipped out that use AGP slots. While PCIe is indeed faster, the extra bandwidth doesn't really affect much unless you play in higher resolutions where you need the extra bandwidth to be swapping large textures in and out of memory. In a game like PSU, where the highest supported resolution is 1280x1024, you won't see much of a performance differece between two otherwise identical AGP and PCIe cards. Also, while it's true that there are other important factors in a card's performance than it's dedicated VRAM, the VRAM is still important. You shouldn't really go less than 128MB, and 256MB is recommended for most recent games. It is true, however, that most people won't see much of a difference between a 256MB and 512MB card unless you're playing a very intensive game in high resolutions.

atomisk

Oct 22, 2006, 04:46 PM

well, I would have to spend less on RAM so I could probably do 756 mb and upgrade the video card, whats a good budget card?

Mikesnav

Oct 22, 2006, 04:49 PM

I think it's easy to see why AGP is dead, performance issues aside:
No flagships/high-end/good cards are going to be released for the platform. Recent cards have all been low-end, bridged parts. (with the exception of the 7800, which was more high-mid-range performance with a high-end pricetag)

MBs with AGP slots now-a-days are budget parts, aimed at those who have yet to switch.

And like I stated, VRAM not THAT important, which implies, yes, it is still a factor in performance - just not critical.

On 2006-10-22 14:46, atomisk wrote:
well, I would have to spend less on RAM so I could probably do 756 mb and upgrade the video card, whats a good budget card?

Look at my long post a little while back (previous page)

[ This Message was edited by: Mikesnav on 2006-10-22 14:51 ]

Kyuu

Oct 22, 2006, 05:01 PM

I'll repost a link Violetskye provided a number of pages back:

http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/09/26/the_best_gaming_video_cards_for_the_money/

That is a very good Tom's Hardware article that will give you all the best cards at various price points for both AGP and PCIe.

atomisk

Oct 22, 2006, 05:10 PM

ok, I lied, I have one more question. right now Im thinking I'll just upgrade to 1 gig of RAM and wait for christmas for a new videocard, will the fx 5600 be passable (I dont care how nice it will look, I just dont want lag) for a few months?

edit: I found this radeon x800 GTO with 256 mb on ebay for a good price, would it work better for me to get that first and get the ram later on or the RAM first?

[ This Message was edited by: atomisk on 2006-10-22 16:05 ]

atomisk

Oct 22, 2006, 06:49 PM

bump

VoidAbsolute

Oct 22, 2006, 06:56 PM

ram is very important when it comes to the running speed of a game

1.processor
2.ram
3.graphics card

LordJoe

Oct 22, 2006, 08:17 PM

Manufacturer: Dell Inc.
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz (2 CPUs)
Memory: 1022MB RAM
Hard Drive: 36 GB
Video Card: RADEON X300 SE 128MB HyperMemory
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Sound Card: SigmaTel Audio
Speakers/Headphones:
Keyboard: USB Root Hub
Mouse: USB Root Hub
Mouse Surface:
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519)
How will this run for PSU?
0%meaning that it isn even a computer and 100% meaning that i will have a flawless gameplay experience. please reply.

[ This Message was edited by: LordJoe on 2006-10-22 18:17 ]

MXdude

Oct 22, 2006, 09:04 PM

Im looking into buying a new pc(have been for a while now >.<) but cant seem to find what im looking for, for under $1000. Right now i have a Dell laptop, and dont think psu will run on it. So i guess im asking you guys if you know where i could find a good price for a quality gaming pc.

thanks.

EDIT: just to throw it out there here are the specs to my laptop.

Model:Dell Inspiron 6000
Processor: Intel Celeron M 1.30 GHz
RAM: 512MB
Graphics card: integrated crap >.<

[ This Message was edited by: MXdude on 2006-10-22 20:25 ]

Zato-2TWO

Oct 23, 2006, 12:52 PM

I figure I might want to put mine up.

AMD Athlon 64 Processor
3300+
1.81 GHz, 384 MB of RAM
...and I'm not sure how to check my video card....

I used to run WoW decently, but I wonder if it'd be drastically different in the case of PSU.

Eviltaru

Oct 23, 2006, 01:06 PM

On 2006-10-23 10:52, Zato-2TWO wrote:
I figure I might want to put mine up.

AMD Athlon 64 Processor
3300+
1.81 GHz, 384 MB of RAM
...and I'm not sure how to check my video card....

I used to run WoW decently, but I wonder if it'd be drastically different in the case of PSU.

cpu shouldn't be a problem but your ram will ... and yea we need to know your video card but if your running WOW at decent I presume you got at least the card for minimum system PSU is asking.

Mikesnav

Oct 23, 2006, 01:07 PM

In a new PC, look to get:
CPU : Core 2 Duo preferably, then Athlon 64 X2
RAM: At the very least 1GB, this is of course easily upgradable
HDD: 250GB is a nice starting number
Video Card: A video card! None of that integrated stuff! Nice low/mid-range cards: 7600GT, X1800's. Higher-end stuff: 7950GT/X1900XT, enthusiast: 7950GX2, X1950XT
DVD-+RW

Kyuu

Oct 23, 2006, 01:12 PM

On 2006-10-22 16:56, VoidAbsolute wrot:
ram is very important when it comes to the running speed of a game

1.processor
2.ram
3.graphics card
I'd say it's more like...

1) RAM/Graphics Card
2) Processor

... if we're putting things in order.

Also, while Mikesnav isn't wrong, he's speaking more from the point of view of someone who has a lot of spare cash and wants top-of-the-line. There's a lot of hardware that's cheaper and will most current applications just fine.

@ Atomisk: Exactly how much is that X800 GTO on eBay? It is a very good card, and if it's less than $100, definitely a good deal. I'd go for it.

[ This Message was edited by: Kyuu on 2006-10-23 11:14 ]

Mikesnav

Oct 23, 2006, 01:28 PM

I'd say it's a balance between the components.
You can't have a horrible CPU, 2GBs of RAM, and a X1950XT. Just like you can't have a C2Q, 2GBs of RAM, and integrated video. I wouldn't make a general rank of them.

And yeah, my suggestion wasn't for a cheap PC, but for $1k, i think such a PC can be got.

[ This Message was edited by: Mikesnav on 2006-10-23 11:29 ]

KillOut

Oct 23, 2006, 01:54 PM

3200+ AMD Athlon 64 processor
1.0GB Ram
160GB harddrive
Integrated ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 video card

Can I run it? If so, can I run it WELL?

Mikesnav

Oct 23, 2006, 02:15 PM

You can run it, just not well.
Xpress 200 = integrated = poop.

KillOut

Oct 23, 2006, 02:27 PM

What woud you recommend that I upgrade my video card to, in order to run this well, im talking 60-80$ price range here.

Mikesnav

Oct 23, 2006, 02:40 PM

7600GS

You can probably get a new one for PCIe for ~$80, for agp, you're gonna have to go used for ~$80.

Fleece

Oct 23, 2006, 04:08 PM

Violet If your reading this i fucking TOLD you the 7600 GS would be a hit budget card http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

<<<< King

If you can afford it btw its Definately worth the extra 30 if you have it to upgrade to the 7600 GT, same core but slightly faster and 1400MHZ effective memory? yes please.

Randomness

Oct 23, 2006, 04:29 PM

Considering my current setup won't work, I'm considering getting the following, its only the graphics card that falls under requirements.

ATI Radeon 9250, 256 MB DDR is more than enough for this, right?

Eviltaru

Oct 23, 2006, 04:47 PM

On 2006-10-23 14:29, Randomness wrote:
Considering my current setup won't work, I'm considering getting the following, its only the graphics card that falls under requirements.

ATI Radeon 9250, 256 MB DDR is more than enough for this, right?

Yes, it's going to be enough! With 256MB no doubt, you can even play every game that's in the market.

Mikesnav

Oct 23, 2006, 04:49 PM

On 2006-10-22 11:56, Mikesnav wrote:
PCI-Express:
$270 X1900XT
$200 7900GT
$125 7600GT
<$120 7600GS

AGP:
AGP is pretty much dead, so lower-end cards are really your only option in terms of value.
~$120 7600GS

And one final thing, a card's VRAM is not THAT important. Don't look at that when buying your card. It's just the same as frequency with processors (eg, a 2GHz C2D can and will destroy a 3+ GHz P4). A 512MB card can get its ass handed to it by a 128MB card.

Popcorn

Oct 23, 2006, 05:07 PM

I have:

Pentium 4 2.20ghz
768mb ram
GeForce 4 Ti 4600

I see that you need 'higher' than a GeForce 4 card to play it... is a GeForce 4 Ti 'higher'? I don't know anything about specs :/

Randomness

Oct 23, 2006, 06:57 PM

On 2006-10-23 14:47, Eviltaru wrote:

On 2006-10-23 14:29, Randomness wrote:
Considering my current setup won't work, I'm considering getting the following, its only the graphics card that falls under requirements.

ATI Radeon 9250, 256 MB DDR is more than enough for this, right?

Yes, it's going to be enough! With 256MB no doubt, you can even play every game that's in the market.

Good, figured, but wanted to make sure there wasn't some tiny tidbit that would kill me. And I'm not the kind to buy the most expensive thing possible.

xenokai

Oct 23, 2006, 07:07 PM

how well would PSU run with this GPU? this is the pc http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0926INGFS10077640&catid=20217&PCName=&test_cookie=1 Integrated NVIDIA GeForce 6150 LE Graphics with TurboChache supporting up to 256MB shared memory.

VioletSkye

Oct 23, 2006, 07:18 PM

Heh I see Best Buy mispelled cache (they have it spelled chache lol.) Since it has an open PCI Express slot, look into grabbing a dedicated videocard. The rest of the system looks fine but the integrated chipset (6150 LE) will really hold it back. I believe the actual amount of VRAM is only 64MB and from there it can allocate another 192MB of system RAM for video.

Usually when a card has an LE (limited edition) behind it, it means it's bottom of the barrel in terms of performance and features.)

[ This Message was edited by: VioletSkye on 2006-10-23 17:25 ]

xenokai

Oct 23, 2006, 07:23 PM

but will it be better then my geforce fx 5500?

VioletSkye

Oct 23, 2006, 07:38 PM

Probably. The FX 5500 wasn't a very good card (no offense.) However the 6150 chipset gets beat in a few tests by a Radeon 9200 (3DMark2001 SE.)

[ This Message was edited by: VioletSkye on 2006-10-23 17:42 ]

woodenchair

Oct 23, 2006, 09:26 PM

Will my Laptop run it:

Processor: 1.66GHz (2 CPUs)
Memory: 1014 MB
Intel Calistoga Graphics Controller (Integrated)
-128 MB

EnixBelmont

Oct 23, 2006, 09:31 PM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130020

I'm ordering it within the next few minutes. Will it be able to run it at the highest resolution(1024 x 768) and on at least medium graphics?

I originally asked on gamefaqs, then I realised people here know much more about PSU >_>

JaiBlue

Oct 23, 2006, 09:35 PM

http://www.killernic.com/KillerNic/ <==best on the market. (from what I've heard)

EnixBelmont

Oct 23, 2006, 09:38 PM

On 2006-10-23 19:35, JaiBlue wrote:
http://www.killernic.com/KillerNic/ <==best on the market. (from what I've heard)

It probably is, but it's almost 300 bucks. This one is like 90. Hence me asking.

Sable_Edge

Oct 23, 2006, 09:39 PM

http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=115943&forum=20&988

It's right there man, right there!!!!!!

DangerMuse

Oct 23, 2006, 09:40 PM

On 2006-10-23 19:35, JaiBlue wrote:
http://www.killernic.com/KillerNic/ <==best on the market. (from what I've heard)

That's a network card >.>

[ This Message was edited by: DangerMuse on 2006-10-23 19:41 ]

EnixBelmont

Oct 23, 2006, 09:41 PM

On 2006-10-23 19:39, Sable_Edge wrote:
http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=115943&forum=20&988

It's right there man, right there!!!!!!

Well, that topic was for all of the specs, I just need to know about this card in specific. That, and I forgot >_>

EnixBelmont

Oct 23, 2006, 09:41 PM

Yeah, thank you. I'm ordering it in a second.

Sable_Edge

Oct 23, 2006, 09:41 PM

To answer your question though, as long as your other specs are up to par, it will run well.

ZeroVer01

Oct 23, 2006, 09:41 PM

The card he asked about was a graphics card. You posted a network card. The two are a little different >_>. Anyway, I answered your question on gamefaqs.

woodenchair

Oct 23, 2006, 10:25 PM

Can anyone help me out. I think my computer is fast enough, but I'm just worried about the integrated graphics card.

Here's the specs:

Processor: 1.66GHz (2 CPUs dual)
Memory: 1014 MB
Intel Calistoga Graphics Controller (Integrated) - 128 MB

Fleece

Oct 23, 2006, 10:32 PM

On 2006-10-23 16:57, Randomness wrote:

On 2006-10-23 14:47, Eviltaru wrote:

On 2006-10-23 14:29, Randomness wrote:
Considering my current setup won't work, I'm considering getting the following, its only the graphics card that falls under requirements.

ATI Radeon 9250, 256 MB DDR is more than enough for this, right?

Yes, it's going to be enough! With 256MB no doubt, you can even play every game that's in the market.

Good, figured, but wanted to make sure there wasn't some tiny tidbit that would kill me. And I'm not the kind to buy the most expensive thing possible.

Im Sorry im not letting this one slide, not for a goddamn minute. Look EvilTaru if you dont know what your on about dont post for christs sakes. Now where was i............ah yes....... ATi Radeon 9250, basically a last ditch effort to breath new life into an aging card by putting 256MB on the card to make up for its PCI bus architecture. Personnally mate it ISNT going to run any game on the market BUT it will probably run psu on low -medium settings at 30 FPS if that helps. If you get more out of it then nice one but trust me it isnt as good as he made out, just telling you so that your not disappointed when you get it.