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FL4SH
Aug 17, 2006, 10:24 PM
what is the best "easy to get" sword that i can find in ultimate with my skyly HUcast, i have looked at drop charts but almost all of them are really rare.

KratosAurion
Aug 17, 2006, 10:28 PM
Just do ultimate cave runs. Chain sawd and Red sword are pretty strong and will show eventually.

TheyCallMeJoe
Aug 17, 2006, 10:45 PM
Actually, Chain Sawd and the Red Sword aren't uberly rare, and they're still really effective. Doing Addicting Food runs will probably give you both; it did for me.

Red Sword gets my vote as being the best though, for HUcasts at least. You can use the Chain Sawd once the enemies are paralyzed or frozen, but trying to use it during combat will most likely end up with you getting hit more than stealing HP (because of HUcast accuracy). Besides, casts get a 30% bonus to the Unreduced Sieze special, making it easier to lay down the pwnage on those Vulmers.

PMB960
Aug 18, 2006, 01:28 AM
The highest possible ATP(611) on the Red Sword actually makes it on of the most powerful swords in the game especially since the grinder is 52. It has a better reach and still hits multiple enemies compared to the Chain Sawd. It also isn't that hard to get, I found it with my yelloewboze character 1/2101 from a Melqueek I think.

TheyCallMeJoe
Aug 18, 2006, 01:50 AM
Even easier for a Skyly. 1/901 from Govulmer....easier drop rate, and more common enemy. Can't ask for better.

Not only is it one of the most powerful...it's also one of the most useful, IMO, because of the special... Me <3 Red Sword

Lord_Kratos
Aug 18, 2006, 06:22 AM
yah im huntin for that red sword but ive heard its good cus the unreduced thing. is the chain sawd good for me the meat bag? (HUmar for slow ppl)

PSOPRINCE
Aug 18, 2006, 06:29 AM
red sword is really good, as the others said it aiint too hard to get, but it seriosly pwns ive hit seven enemies at one and was doing 500 to each while it was grinded to 52 witohut shifta, compared to the tskumuni j sword it is still great and amazingly simple to get compared to the ellusuve tjs

Lord_Kratos
Aug 18, 2006, 06:34 AM
every time i here that word i scream out TJS! i need that weapon! but i need the red sword alot more now then bfore!

PSOPRINCE
Aug 18, 2006, 06:41 AM
i actually prefer the red sword althoguh i dont have a TJS red sword is still very very powerful, and you could spend years of you life looking for a TJS and get a red sword in a tenth f the time

Lord_Kratos
Aug 18, 2006, 06:44 AM
*screams TJS* well anyways i'm huntin for that and the beautifal chain sword of death!
you say the red sword be better but what about for a meat bag like my HUmar hes no hunk o junk HUcast. dont be offened im making fun of both classes cus i play both of them. my HUmar just happens to be stronger

Tweengo
Aug 18, 2006, 07:58 AM
On 2006-08-18 04:34, Lord_Kratos wrote:
every time i here that word i scream out TJS! i need that weapon! but i need the red sword alot more now then bfore!



I know how you feel. 'Cause I can't play online, I have to make do with the one (whateverthenameofthatbigbeeis) on Ep. 2 in the beach area http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif , while 8 appear in the Tower quests (PSO Plus, come to Europe dag nammit). I have the Red Sword and Chain Sawd, and they own!!! And I feel it's not easy to get a Red Sword with Yellowboze, as I haven't found one yet, but with my Skyly I did. The last one I found, I couldn't keep as my card was playing up http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

arisen_devil
Aug 18, 2006, 10:39 AM
chain sawd and red sword are your best bets. i use both with my HUcast. if you use a freeze trap on a group of enemies, chain sawd is godly when you're at low HP http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

blace
Aug 18, 2006, 10:45 AM
ATP is good for certain situations when one needs to clear out enemies with a time limit but I think the Chain Sawd is better ATA wise.

Neith
Aug 18, 2006, 11:24 AM
Red Sword= 611ATP (assuming you hit for its max ATP) +52 grind (x2)= 715ATP.

Extremely powerful weapon considering its rarity.

Chain Sawd isn't as strong (555ATP ground, I think), but has a very useful special.

Since they both drop in the same place, you're likely to at least get one of them.

1/1050 from a Vulmer really isn't that hard, neither is 1/900 from a Govulmer.

*retreats before Chain Sawd vs. Red Sword argument starts again*

Lord_Kratos
Aug 18, 2006, 11:49 AM
I choose Chain Sawd!!! Its a chain saw who doesnt want that???? Plus the chain sawd's ATP +age is 500-525. red sword is 400-611 or so. even with grinders it still has a low ATP though the Chain Sawd's isnt too far ahead...... but still the chain sawd does does damage in a solid are instead of wild damage like the red sword. either can be used cus there both good. the red sword has unreduced seize so its good im just sayin id personalty choose the saw cus if you are damaged alot you copuld use the special and steal health frm thine enemy!



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FL4SH
Aug 19, 2006, 10:21 AM
alright, thx guys i just got my chain sawd on addicting food so now ill hunt for red sword, its not bad xp either, it got me 5 lvls 79-84 http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Hrith
Aug 19, 2006, 03:39 PM
Red sword has 609 ATP, don't be fooled by in-game numbers.
Chain Sawd has 542 ATP, for such a difference, I'd take Gush over Seize any day, even as a fleshie.

Both are good swords, anyway, I'd just go with the first one that drops with hit%.

Dingo
Aug 19, 2006, 03:57 PM
Gotta love the chainsawd noise though http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

ulyoth
Aug 19, 2006, 04:51 PM
On 2006-08-19 13:39, Kef wrote:
Red sword has 609 ATP, don't be fooled by in-game numbers.
Chain Sawd has 542 ATP, for such a difference, I'd take Gush over Seize any day, even as a fleshie.

Both are good swords, anyway, I'd just go with the first one that drops with hit%.


Elaborate, my memory is bad...variable ATP or something?

Hrith
Aug 19, 2006, 05:04 PM
Yeah http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif If you check the database here, it will give you the variance.

Good to see you, Uly.

83Nini
Aug 19, 2006, 05:32 PM
On 2006-08-19 13:57, Dingo wrote:
Gotta love the chainsawd noise though http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif


Well it becomes boring though.

FL4SH
Aug 19, 2006, 07:44 PM
i just found my red sword and i think i like it better, so i max grinded it