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sushiman
Oct 1, 2006, 02:17 PM
My cousin is at lv 131 and he maxed out all his materials at lv 83 or something like that. He had 38 luck when he maxed out. Out of nowhere he suddenly got 100 luck the next time I visited him. Did he get ligitly or did he cheat?

KojiroAK
Oct 1, 2006, 02:33 PM
What was his equipment?

maybe he had some luck units.

There are also weapons that raises Luck.
Like Combat, Gae Bolg, Vise.

So it's possible, without hacks.

fishtales
Oct 1, 2006, 02:38 PM
You do know there is a dupe cheat right?

Undeadpriest
Oct 1, 2006, 03:44 PM
Maybe he just got lots of Luck Material.

T0m
Oct 1, 2006, 03:52 PM
On 2006-10-01 12:38, fishtales wrote:
You do know there is a dupe cheat right?



On 2006-10-01 13:44, Undeadpriest wrote:
Maybe he just got lots of Luck Material.


Did you read this?


On 2006-10-01 12:17, sushiman wrote:
he maxed out all his materials at lv 83 or something like that. He had 38 luck when he maxed out


I agree with KojiroAK.

sushiman
Oct 1, 2006, 09:32 PM
No. Actually, he didn't have anything that increased his luck except god hand which increased his luck by 5. And Undreadpreist, what is a dupe cheat? I am not asking how you do it, but what exactly is it.

sushiman
Oct 1, 2006, 09:32 PM
Im sorry, I did not mean Undreadpreist. I meant to talk to fishtales.

KojiroAK
Oct 1, 2006, 09:50 PM
Then it could be, he used some external helpings to get his Luck of 100
(There are some cheat that can do this)

Dupe = duplicating = copying
Can be done through a bug/clitch.

T0m
Oct 2, 2006, 01:03 AM
And don't forget to ask your cousin next time. I'm sure he knows how he got 100 luck. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

KojiroAK
Oct 2, 2006, 01:25 AM
or had he only maxed out HP material?

HP-Material, TP-Material and the others are separated.

So if he had only maxed out HP he could had still add luck.

HedKandi
Oct 2, 2006, 02:14 AM
Yes, there is a cheat where you can multi equip slots by using the shop dupe method, but i won't go into further details as i don't agree with it, but i believe that was the way in which your cousin got his luck maxed out.

pso-dude
Oct 2, 2006, 03:02 AM
luck give only more critical hit chances, its not THAT important,i dont rely on luck too...

KojiroAK
Oct 2, 2006, 03:09 AM
Well pso-dude

Luck can make a difference.
So i would like more to forget Evade-material (Since on Ultimate Evade is getting nearby useless (like my experience is), it isn't that big sacrifice) and go for Luck.
(unless at Force there is Luck 100percent wasted)

even if the calculating 1 of 5 at Luck 100 will be crtitical, at a mechgun combo there will be with nearby 100% one Critical.

fishtales
Oct 2, 2006, 05:40 AM
On 2006-10-01 19:32, sushiman wrote:
No. Actually, he didn't have anything that increased his luck except god hand which increased his luck by 5. And Undreadpreist, what is a dupe cheat? I am not asking how you do it, but what exactly is it.



The dupe cheat allows you to copy one item its fairly cheep especially when it comes to mags.

I have never used it because my friend is like dude dupe the make for me.

1 you can loose the item your trying to dupe
2 I dont want to give something i worked so hard for and give to a friend who has to do nothing for it.
3 dupe cheats gay and really hard to do

BlueKnight
Oct 2, 2006, 08:51 AM
I have three of my characters at 100 luck and there HP is max out to. I found all my luck and HP material. It is possible to max them out if you only use HP and Luck mineral only on your characters. My Racast has 100 luck and his hp is at 2214.

Kevino
Oct 2, 2006, 09:00 AM
whats your % chance about to get crit w/ 100 luck

sushiman
Oct 2, 2006, 09:10 AM
When I asked how he got 100 luck, he said he did an "experiment". He said he nearly lost his character or nearly lost something (I don't remember). I know that hp and normal materials are seperate and he max them both out. But he only had 38 luck. Oh yeah. I forgot to tell you guys that he plays gamecube offline. And I have a question. Is the dupe cheat ligit or is it hacking the game?

sushiman
Oct 2, 2006, 09:13 AM
Kevino the answer to your question is 20% ( i am not confident but I think that is the right percent. I was also thinking of 33 % but I think it is 20%). Can anyone tell us the real percent?

BlueKnight
Oct 2, 2006, 09:25 AM
Duping is like hacking.
If you dupe your material no you are not hacked but you are cheating at the game.
If you dupe or your fluids and mates you are hack. If you dupe your weapons or armor to save a copy than no that is not hacked.

Critical Hit luck 100.
About once sumetimes twice in a combo I hit a critical hit. Witch it help out allot.



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HedKandi
Oct 2, 2006, 11:59 AM
I remember when i first started to play this back in the day, and i asked the question "What does the luck actually do", and i got a response "yea it increases your chances of finding those red boxes" lmao



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BlueKnight
Oct 2, 2006, 12:05 PM
luck is for Critical hit.

fishtales
Oct 2, 2006, 08:20 PM
Yea isnt the time you play for finding special items? or is it just fraction or percent chance

No dupe is not a full hack but the way you do it can be. also if you arnt playing online what are the chances that you get enough luck materials to bring you from 38 to 100. especially sense he said "Experiment" thats just a one way ticket to CHEATS or if he borrowed a action replay or gameshark to up his luck.

Zorafim
Oct 2, 2006, 09:51 PM
Duping isn't a hack, since it can be done with nothing but the game itself. It's an exploit of a glitch. The only downsides I know of is that you can freeze your game. That's the worst I've seen so far.
Duping has mixed with hacking to produce thousands of SJ swords and double cannons online, and other such things. Though a duper can be harmless, he can also just as easily contribute to the online mess.

fishtales
Oct 3, 2006, 05:53 AM
There can be a worse thing then freezeing the game thats loosing the item your dupeing.
If you dupe the best item in the game then loose it and accedently save and quit or your playing online and that happens your prittie screwed

DikkyRay
Oct 3, 2006, 05:56 AM
i agree with Zorafim. Its not hacking, you are not rewriting any of the codes. You are making use of a glitch.
And why don'y we get back to the original topic about luck?
Yes, there is another glitch that you can use to get luck, and keep it, no i will not say any more. This topic is on the brink of going to cheaters

fishtales
Oct 3, 2006, 05:59 AM
yea that is true... if we go back on topic the post would have ended a while back =)

Kevino
Oct 3, 2006, 08:45 AM
still no percent here! need a percent.

BlueKnight
Oct 3, 2006, 02:41 PM
Duping to me I say it is cheating in the game but sometimes the game will not think so but it is a form of cheating. So I will say you are hacked.

MadEwokHerd
Oct 3, 2006, 03:59 PM
%Chance of a critical hit=Luck/5. 100 luck means 20% chance and so on.

sushiman
Oct 3, 2006, 04:21 PM
So let me get this staight. Duping is when you cheat by exploiting the game's glitch and by doing that you get to multiply your items. But even if my cousin multiplies his luck materials, how will he be able to use it if he already maxed out on materials?

BlueKnight
Oct 3, 2006, 04:41 PM
That is a good Question?
I know only if you maxed out you materials but HP you still can max you HP out . But not luck.

Saffran
Oct 3, 2006, 04:55 PM
If he's had all mats used and only 38 Luck then now has 100, he either has Luck units equipped or he cheated somehow. End of story.

fishtales
Oct 3, 2006, 06:11 PM
Exactly.

sushiman
Oct 3, 2006, 09:39 PM
Well then. My cousin told me that he is a completely honest player. I guess he was lying. I should of known. And when you mean cheating, you mean using game shark right?

fishtales
Oct 4, 2006, 05:40 AM
Pertie much

Kevino
Oct 4, 2006, 09:08 AM
On 2006-10-03 13:59, MadEwokHerd wrote:
%Chance of a critical hit=Luck/5. 100 luck means 20% chance and so on.



thank you

BlueKnight
Oct 4, 2006, 09:18 AM
Game shark/ mods/ action replay. along those line. I ran in to so maney player that are moded and it ruins the game. I am not happy with hacker or moders it tacks the fun out of playing the game.
my lv 200 Racast allwas on line moders and hackers whats to battle me. To prove what? good question. Thay don't what to do C-Mode beacuse thay are noob so thay have to cheet. I say thay are all noob if you can't play the game legit.



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sushiman
Oct 4, 2006, 01:51 PM
I coundn't agree with you more BlueKnight. People work 100s of hours trying to level and they get to lv 200 in 2 minutes. I am a ligit lv 141 HUcast and had to work my but off. And when I needed an item, I had to do stages hundreds of times while they got it cheating.

fishtales
Oct 4, 2006, 08:07 PM
if only my friend seen it the way we do.

Hitoriga
Oct 7, 2006, 02:31 PM
Sushiman, the only thing your cousin did was use a glitch known as the Max Stats Glitch. It is a glitch that lets you increase your stats to any number, as long as you do not bypass the limit. That is all your cousin did. He did not use an Action Replay. It does not seem like too many people know about this glitch.

I also understand why your cousin only increased his LCK, and not any of the other stats. Since LCK will not increase on its own when you level up even at level 200, he did not want it to be stuck at 38. So he decided to increase it to 100.

And when he said that he is an honest player, he meant by not using the Action Replay. In a way, what he did is not really cheating, since the game actually lets everyone to do it.




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fishtales
Oct 7, 2006, 08:57 PM
hmm ill have to look that up so i can avoide it then I FINALLY REACHED 100 YEA AND ONLY IN 210 HOURS OF PLAY

KojiroAK
Oct 7, 2006, 10:33 PM
@Hitoriga

It's cheating, he used a function that wasn't thougt of the producers for his benefit.

Hacking is cheating but cheating isn't only hacking.

sushiman
Oct 8, 2006, 05:26 PM
Wow. Thanks Hitoriga. I had not idea about that. I still consider it cheating but that is only my opinion.

Rekitheforce
Oct 8, 2006, 10:07 PM
On 2006-10-01 13:44, Undeadpriest wrote:
Maybe he just got lots of Luck Material.

If you read in the first post, the person said that their brother maxed out on materials early on.

Kevino
Oct 9, 2006, 09:07 AM
i concure

fishtales
Oct 9, 2006, 12:32 PM
speeking of maxing out materials how many is it before you max them out?

Hitoriga
Oct 9, 2006, 01:01 PM
On 2006-10-09 10:32, fishtales wrote:
speeking of maxing out materials how many is it before you max them out?



Humans can use 250 materials. Newmans and Androids can use 150 materials.
And the way you are supposed to max out LCK is by using 45 LCK materials. But legitimately finding 45 LCK materials takes way too long just to max one character.




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BlueKnight
Oct 9, 2006, 03:45 PM
That is how you do it finding them. NOT( duping )or (having some one doup them). If you can't do that then you don't know how to play legit. I have many hrs on all my character's and I have no problem finding LCK materials. You jest have to take the time on finding them.
That is why I say that cheater are for noobs they can't play the game right so they have to find a way to cheat to make it easy for them. PLAY THE GAME LEGIT OR DON'T PLAY IT AT ALL IT RUINS THE GAME FOR EVERY ONE THAT PLAYS IT LEGIT!!!!!
Hackers suck.



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fishtales
Oct 9, 2006, 08:50 PM
and i play ligit

KojiroAK
Oct 9, 2006, 10:30 PM
@Blueknight

I would say it's there decision to cheat as long they don't herrase other players who want play legit.
(special in Battle mode)

And if they cheat they shell stay to it and don't try to find some excusions for they doings.

@Hitoriga

It's true Finding Luck-Material can dure some time, but if you get Luck 100 it's makes you much more proud than by doing it trough cheating.

And don't forgot by hunting for Luck-materials you gain also some Exp and you can find some other rares.

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fishtales
Oct 10, 2006, 08:49 AM
I love when i find luck-material I get all like YEA I GOT A LUCK-MATERIAL GO ME! I dont find them very often so thus is why I do so.

sushiman
Oct 10, 2006, 05:22 PM
Preech on BlueKnight!

Dynobot
Oct 11, 2006, 02:40 PM
On 2006-10-01 12:17, sushiman wrote:
My cousin is at lv 131 and he maxed out all his materials at lv 83 or something like that. He had 38 luck when he maxed out. Out of nowhere he suddenly got 100 luck the next time I visited him. Did he get ligitly or did he cheat?


Maybe he got a Yellow Ring or somthing like that. Oh by the way. Does luck affect the drop rate of rare itmes? (If It's not, I totally wasted all the Luck materials and the effort to get the Ring XP)

Dynobot
Oct 11, 2006, 02:44 PM
On 2006-10-01 12:17, sushiman wrote:
My cousin is at lv 131 and he maxed out all his materials at lv 83 or something like that. He had 38 luck when he maxed out. Out of nowhere he suddenly got 100 luck the next time I visited him. Did he get ligitly or did he cheat?


Maybe he got a Yellow Ring or somthing like that. Oh by the way. Does luck affect the drop rate of rare itmes? (If It's not, I totally wasted all the Luck materials and the effort to get the Ring XP)

BlueKnight
Oct 11, 2006, 02:54 PM
No Luck is for increasing you critical hit % up only. Not for Rare Itmes.

sushiman
Oct 11, 2006, 03:11 PM
No. He didn't have the yellow ring.

DONTOSE
Oct 11, 2006, 06:38 PM
i got my luck up to 100 with no problem i didnt even use any luck materials

fishtales
Oct 11, 2006, 07:21 PM
how? luck dosent rais??? unless u are useing items

Kevino
Oct 12, 2006, 08:42 AM
On 2006-10-11 16:38, DONTOSE wrote:
i got my luck up to 100 with no problem i didnt even use any luck materials



dont believe. unless you and some other people have yellow rings im pretty sure you cant get a weap that raises it that much. or you hacked

Psyclone
Oct 12, 2006, 12:48 PM
On 2006-10-12 06:42, Kevino wrote:


On 2006-10-11 16:38, DONTOSE wrote:
i got my luck up to 100 with no problem i didnt even use any luck materials

dont believe. unless you and some other people have yellow rings im pretty sure you cant get a weap that raises it that much. or you hacked God/Luck x3;
God/Luck + God/Ability x3;
God/Luck x2 + God/Ability + Hero/Ability;
God/Luck x2 + God/Ability + L&K14 Combat (or other +10 LCK weapon);
God/Luck x2 + Hero/Ability x2 + L&K14 Combat (or other +10 LCK weapon);
God/Ability x4 + L&K14 Combat (or other +10 LCK weapon);
. . . and etceteraNot necessarily easy, but possible.

@ Hitoriga > 1 Legit God/Luck + 1 Legit God/Ability + 15 Legit Luck Materials = Legit 100 Luck

Again, not necessarily easy, but possible.

Hitoriga
Oct 12, 2006, 04:11 PM
On 2006-10-12 10:48, Psyclone wrote:
@ Hitoriga > 1 Legit God/Luck + 1 Legit God/Ability + 15 Legit Luck Materials = Legit 100 Luck


Wait, wait. Why did you say my name? I think you meant to say Kevino. Because in the previous post I made, I only explained the way how you are really supposed to make your LCK into 100. By giving the character 45 LCK materials.

By the way Psyclone, the equation you gave will only give you 90 LCK. Just make that into 20 Legit Luck Materials instead of 15.

DONTOSE
Oct 12, 2006, 05:12 PM
i kind of cheated but not with any cheating device like AR this cheat i did has some thing to do with the duping cheat but its different its not about copying your items but it has to do with your armer/frame and your armer unit but since its against the forms rules to give out cheats i cant tell you how i did it but i used this cheat to max all my stats out at level 30 its every easy to do but like i said i cant tell you how i dont even know if i can tell you in a pm but if i can that would be cool but i dont no

Hitoriga
Oct 12, 2006, 05:24 PM
Dontose, the glitch you did is what I had told about in THIS (http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=120282&forum=1&start=30&45#40) post, which is on the same thread.

DONTOSE
Oct 12, 2006, 05:40 PM
yea thats the thing i did to max my stats out i didnt realize you posted that but thats what i did to get max luck and every thing else but dont you think its easy to do this cheat to max your stats out im serprized not alot of people know how to do this its kind of funny

Psyclone
Oct 12, 2006, 06:15 PM
On 2006-10-12 14:11, Hitoriga wrote:


On 2006-10-12 10:48, Psyclone wrote:
@ Hitoriga > 1 Legit God/Luck + 1 Legit God/Ability + 15 Legit Luck Materials = Legit 100 Luck


Wait, wait. Why did you say my name? . . .
Yep.


. . . I think you meant to say Kevino. . .
Nope. I addressed his disbelief (as quoted in my post) before addressing you.


. . . Because in the previous post I made, I only explained the way how you are really supposed to make your LCK into 100. By giving the character 45 LCK materials. . .
So you’re not “really supposed” to max luck using units and/or weapons? Gee, I wonder why they’re even in the game then.

So how are you “really suppsoed” to max ATA? Just by DEX on a mag, or is it okay to use God/Arms? How about S-Parts?

In case you’ve missed the point, saying that 45 luck mats is “how you are really supposed” to max luck is just plain wrong. That is the only way to (legitimately) max luck without boosting luck with equipped items. In other words, it’s the only way to do it using just materials.

However, like most everything else, there is more than one way to accomplish the goal legitimately. And none of them are how “you are really supposed” to do it.


. . . By the way Psyclone, the equation you gave will only give you 90 LCK. Just make that into 20 Legit Luck Materials instead of 15.
Doh! Thanks for catching my mistake. I apologize for the error.

Hitoriga
Oct 12, 2006, 07:00 PM
Hold on Psyclone, you are seriously misunderstanding of what I meant. When I said that you are "really supposed" to get 100 LCK by using 45 LCK materials, I was referring to THIS (http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=120282&forum=1&start=45&60#46) post. I know that there are MANY ways to max out LCK, but I was just simply answering that person's question. I am sorry for any confusion.




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Kevino
Oct 13, 2006, 08:38 AM
God/Luck x3;
God/Luck + God/Ability x3;
God/Luck x2 + God/Ability + Hero/Ability;
God/Luck x2 + God/Ability + L&K14 Combat (or other +10 LCK weapon);
God/Luck x2 + Hero/Ability x2 + L&K14 Combat (or other +10 LCK weapon);
God/Ability x4 + L&K14 Combat (or other +10 LCK weapon);
. . . and etcetera[/list]Not necessarily easy, but possible.

@ Hitoriga > 1 Legit God/Luck + 1 Legit God/Ability + 15 Legit Luck Materials = Legit 100 Luck

Again, not necessarily easy, but possible.



good point sorry about that didnt think of it. my bad

Psyclone
Oct 13, 2006, 10:27 AM
On 2006-10-12 17:00, Hitoriga wrote:
Hold on Psyclone, you are seriously misunderstanding of what I meant. When I said that you are "really supposed" to get 100 LCK by using 45 LCK materials, I was referring to THIS (http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=120282&forum=1&start=45&60#46) post. I know that there are MANY ways to max out LCK, but I was just simply answering that person's question. I am sorry for any confusion.

Doh!

Yep. I completely missed the context. Terribly sorry, chap! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

BlueKnight
Oct 13, 2006, 02:00 PM
So there is a whay to get you stats max out?
I don't thing that is being Legit that is being hacked and cheeting isn't it? So tell me how to do this max stats glich and we will see if that is cheeting or not. I don't think you can to it on Xbox.

sushiman
Oct 13, 2006, 02:07 PM
Yeah. I just learned about the max stat glitch. I preety darn sure that you can't do it on the xbox version. It is not a hack. It just takes advantage of a glitch of the game to max out one or some of your stats. You dont need anything except the pso disc and a memory card.

BlueKnight
Oct 13, 2006, 02:13 PM
Which Coulsal can you glich on?

DONTOSE
Oct 13, 2006, 02:23 PM
you can do the max stats glich on the gamecube vr. but im not sure if it can be done on the xbox vr. of the game.

Psyclone
Oct 13, 2006, 02:57 PM
As I understand it, the duping glitch was "patched" in GC/PSO+ which means that the max stat glitch is also "patched" in PSO+.

Animosity
Oct 14, 2006, 12:15 AM
On 2006-10-02 01:09, KojiroAK wrote:
Well pso-dude

Luck can make a difference.
So i would like more to forget Evade-material (Since on Ultimate Evade is getting nearby useless (like my experience is), it isn't that big sacrifice) and go for Luck.
(unless at Force there is Luck 100percent wasted)

even if the calculating 1 of 5 at Luck 100 will be crtitical, at a mechgun combo there will be with nearby 100% one Critical.






get a hunewearl to ultimate and use the delsaber combo. its nearly impossible to get hit i know because i have a hucast lvl 123 on gc all legit and the enemys in the mines can barely hit me when i have that combo along with evasion slots.

sushiman
Oct 14, 2006, 10:57 PM
What combo do you use Amimosity? I have a HUcast lv 136 and I can't evade the mines monsters.

Animosity
Oct 15, 2006, 02:13 PM
On 2006-10-14 20:57, sushiman wrote:
What combo do you use Amimosity? I have a HUcast lv 136 and I can't evade the mines monsters.



i us the delsaber combo and a four slotted flowens frame with all evade units(none of wich are god.)

xxTrystanxx
Oct 15, 2006, 02:29 PM
I don't see how ANYONE could consider the max stat glitch not cheating. Sure, you could argue "Well, it's not like I used an AR..." or "It's in the game, then we must be meant to use it." But this sort of glitch isn't the same as say, telepiping for rare enemies.

The difference here is intent. You are useing the glitch because you want the max stats, but do not wish to use conventional methods of reaching it. So rather than find Luck Mats, or take the time to hunt for */Luck and/or */Ability units and Luck-boosting equipment, you just glitch it. *That* is cheating.

sushiman
Oct 15, 2006, 05:43 PM
Thanks Animosity.

I coundn't agree with you more xxTrystanxx. The max stat glitch is still cheating because you are not working to get the stats. They cheat and use this and give an pathetic excuse that they are not cheating.

Hitoriga
Oct 15, 2006, 05:46 PM
On 2006-10-15 12:29, xxTrystanxx wrote:
I don't see how ANYONE could consider the max stat glitch not cheating. Sure, you could argue "Well, it's not like I used an AR..." or "It's in the game, then we must be meant to use it." But this sort of glitch isn't the same as say, telepiping for rare enemies.

The difference here is intent. You are using the glitch because you want the max stats, but do not wish to use conventional methods of reaching it. So rather than find Luck Mats, or take the time to hunt for */Luck and/or */Ability units and Luck-boosting equipment, you just glitch it. *That* is cheating.

xxTrystanxx, you are not making any sense on the last part of what you said. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif That is the EXACT same thing as telepiping for rare enemies. Saying the same thing you said:

You are piping because you want the rare enemy, but do not wish to use conventional methods of reaching it. So rather to take the time to hunt for the rare enemy, you just glitch it. *That* is cheating. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

sushiman
Oct 15, 2006, 05:52 PM
Never thought of it that way.

xxTrystanxx
Oct 15, 2006, 06:12 PM
While he might be correct, in that both are "glitches," consider that one may be more harmful to the gameplay than the other. I still think there's a fine line between piping for rare enemies and using a glitch to max out your characters stats, and that was the point I was trying to make. Sure using the pipe trick is exploiting a glitch, too, but there's still an amount of chance involved, particularly if you're looking for say, Heaven's Punisher or Psycho Wand -- you might find it, you might not. And it really doesn't involve doing anything 'abnormal'. In other words, it's not like the act of telepiping up to P2 and back isn't something we do all the time. The max stat glitch is a more involved process, that the normal person wouldn't be doing all the time.

Because if you're going to continue to argue that if piping is acceptable, why can't the max stat glitch be... consider this:

I'm in Forest and I run out of mates so I quickly pipe up to buy more. On my way back down, one of the rappies has changed into an Al Rappy. If we want to get really technical about not using glitches, you'd have to then say that anything dropped from that Al rappy is not legit because it wasn't an Al Rappy before.

I've tried piping... it's pretty useless, actually. It's still more efficient to do runs, I think. But that's off-topic.

The point remains: Max Stat Glitch = Cheating.

Neith
Oct 15, 2006, 06:26 PM
People are still arguing over what is legit? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

Seriously, just play the game.

Hitoriga
Oct 15, 2006, 06:31 PM
Yeah xxTrystanxx, now you're making sense.




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DikkyRay
Oct 15, 2006, 07:29 PM
jesus why is this still open?
I believe the OPs question has been answered, so why keep on discussing this? If you have an opinion about something, you do not need to argue about it. One person thinks it is cheating? So what, its whatever you think is right. And for gods sake listen to UrikoBB3, play the game, don't argue over it.

Kevino
Oct 16, 2006, 08:34 AM
wait one more question.

What section id is the best for finding them and where.

BlueKnight
Oct 16, 2006, 01:17 PM
On 2006-10-15 16:12, xxTrystanxx wrote:
While he might be correct, in that both are "glitches," consider that one may be more harmful to the gameplay than the other. I still think there's a fine line between piping for rare enemies and using a glitch to max out your characters stats, and that was the point I was trying to make. Sure using the pipe trick is exploiting a glitch, too, but there's still an amount of chance involved, particularly if you're looking for say, Heaven's Punisher or Psycho Wand -- you might find it, you might not. And it really doesn't involve doing anything 'abnormal'. In other words, it's not like the act of telepiping up to P2 and back isn't something we do all the time. The max stat glitch is a more involved process, that the normal person wouldn't be doing all the time.

Because if you're going to continue to argue that if piping is acceptable, why can't the max stat glitch be... consider this:

I'm in Forest and I run out of mates so I quickly pipe up to buy more. On my way back down, one of the rappies has changed into an Al Rappy. If we want to get really technical about not using glitches, you'd have to then say that anything dropped from that Al rappy is not legit because it wasn't an Al Rappy before.

I've tried piping... it's pretty useless, actually. It's still more efficient to do runs, I think. But that's off-topic.

The point remains: Max Stat Glitch = Cheating.


I would have to agree with you!!

sushiman
Oct 16, 2006, 01:43 PM
For finding what Kevino?

DikkyRay
Oct 16, 2006, 03:53 PM
you know what, just because of this arguement, im making a character with the max stat glitch.
Oh, one more thing.
YOU CAN ONLY MAX LUCK, ATP, AND HP! jesus no weapons (save last survivor) give any stat boost in paranthesis other than luck. Last survivor gives you 10 hp i believe, but you can only max that to an extent. You can max atp, but not by this "glitch"
Now im pissed off, play the damn game. Don't argue over something stupid. If someone maxeds his luck who cares? He gets a few more critical hits. If you believe its wrong, then you do not have to do it. Just don't go preaching that its wrong.

BlueKnight
Oct 16, 2006, 04:08 PM
Calm down. If you what to cheat that is ok. Then be a cheater. It jest shows that every one can't play the game with out cheating. I play the game the way it is. I don't need to cheat like allot of people do. Like you say it is a Glitch in the game that is like a cheat code. So play the game any way you what. It jest shows that every one can't play the game with out cheating. Cheaters are like NOOB trying to find a easer way to beet the game. So go play the way you want. I prefer not cheating my self. Good luck with that.




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DikkyRay
Oct 16, 2006, 05:01 PM
still, the disussion is over, no need to keep on talking about it.
A mod should close this thread to prevent any more argueing

sushiman
Oct 16, 2006, 08:25 PM
Hey! This is my post!

xxTrystanxx
Oct 17, 2006, 07:20 AM
On 2006-10-16 15:01, DikkyRay wrote:
still, the disussion is over, no need to keep on talking about it.
A mod should close this thread to prevent any more argueing



We weren't arguing. As you saw, we had come to a conclusion, hence no more argument. You weren't even participating in this discussion over the past couple days, but out of nowhere you come in and start typing in all caps and claiming that *we're* getting upset.

And I am confused as to one statement you made... you can only max ATP, LCK, and HP? Are you referring to only with the Max Stat Glitch? Because I've certained maxed out other stats using materials and items.

BlueKnight
Oct 17, 2006, 09:01 AM
I not trying to start a fight. All I was saying if you what to do that glitch that is fine. I say that is like cheating. but I would not do that glitch because I like to work my way up and find all the materials it makes me fell like I accomplish something than finding a short cut. I would not feel like I accomplish any thing but cheating. that is my thoughts.



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Kevino
Oct 17, 2006, 09:09 AM
On 2006-10-16 11:43, sushiman wrote:
For finding what Kevino?



luck

BlueKnight
Oct 17, 2006, 09:35 AM
This is the best I can do for Luck materials.

Luck Material So Dimenian Temple Normal Redria 1/6069
Luck Material Barbarous Wolf Spaceship Normal Skyly 1/6069
Luck Material La Dimenian Temple Normal Greennill 1/5873
Luck Material Sinow Zele Seabed Normal Pinkal 1/5202
Luck Material Sinow Zele Seabed Normal Purplenum 1/5202
Luck Material Sinow Zele Seabed Normal Yellowboze 1/5202
Luck Material Zol Gibbon Control Center Normal Oran 1/5202

Good luck.

sushiman
Oct 17, 2006, 02:34 PM
Those statistics are true but it seems so odd that you have to kill enemies thousands of times to get one stupid luck material

KojiroAK
Oct 17, 2006, 02:37 PM
Well, don't hunt for them, just play, kill some enemys earn soem Exp, collect some other rares and from time to time there will be a luck-Mat.

BlueKnight
Oct 17, 2006, 02:57 PM
What will help is do some Max attacks. When you are doun with max attacks you should find plenty of Luck Materials. That is how I found so meny.

xxTrystanxx
Oct 17, 2006, 07:20 PM
I've found a lot of luck Materials while hunting for Milla....

sushiman
Oct 18, 2006, 05:24 PM
Somehow, I never get lucky with luck nor hp mats. I always get other mats especially atp mats.

sushiman
Oct 20, 2006, 02:14 PM
Since there are now 99 posts, I want to create the 100th one because I am the creator. Anyways, seems that this post kinda died away. Ohhhh well. 100 posts is legendary.

T0m
Oct 20, 2006, 02:42 PM
If a topic is dying, then it doesn't need spam-resuscitation. You can be sure that the topic led a happy life, and has no qualms about passing into topic-heaven.
So please refrain from doing that. ~_~