What is sooo great about Red Handgun??

[Al-Rappy]

I don't get it, what is so great about the Red Handgun? I've heard alot of people say it's good but I don't know why. Could someone please explain?!

[PlatinumGame]

It's stats. It isn't a normal handgun that you find in forest thats just red...

[Al-Rappy]

I knew it wasn't a normal gun that was red. I kinda figured that it's stats were good also but I've heard people say that the were doing bad in Ult mode untill the gut a Red Handgun, then they started doing good. Anyone know what its max grind is?

[PlatinumGame]

In version 2 it was 90. I am not sure what Red weapon max grind is now.

[Al-Rappy]

90?! I can grind it to 90?! Ok now I see why it's special!!

[hucasts_rock]

It's also very useful. in ver.2 it saved my life in ult. mode...all I had was a drag. slayer that did 10-20 damage to bartles...then I found a high % red handgun and started doing some major damage...actually, I found about 8 red handguns http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif...

[Whatley]

They were the bomb when ver2 came out on DC. That was one of the first new rares found on ver2.

[jazzyfox]

On the Dreamcast, Ultimate required massive amounts of ATA to hit the enemies. The Red weapons gave enough ATA over the v1 set of weapons to make hitting consistent. On the Cube they've scaled Ultimate back a little, so it's not quite as required.

[Blade_1]

I found a Red Handgun yesterday it requires 140 ATA, i got it from a Pal Rappy (REDRIA ID) - i haven't bothered grinding it yet because it only has 15/25/0/0 i'm going to get a couple more then or until i get one with better %'s before i start to grind it. Also Red Handguns are good because you can use it on ULT Olga Flow to see i believe it's Flowen but i can't remember as i have seen both the V.Hard and ULT special NPC's and always get them confused.

[Shadow_Blade]

I've yet to find a single handgun yet. ;( Stupid yellowboze *grumble* Although i did find a pretty red saber http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Al-Rappy]

Heh, I'm yellowboze as well but I found a handgun today. No percents at all though http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

[DirewolfX]

Special NPCs?

[Blade_1]

Yes, on the JP Version if you beat Olga Flow online (not sure if it works offline)on V.Hard with Dark Flow or on ULT with a Red Weapon then... after you beat them leave the boss area then return back to the boss area and they'll be a dude standing there http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif Don't get too close or he'll dissapear - they are very cool, ones Flowen and can't remember the other ones name. I recon it will work on the US version but i'm only lv 71 so i'm too weak to try.

[ChokingVictim]

red handgun's still the most common red weapon still right? so by sheer commonality of it being found pretty often, with its usefulness to all classes, and the punch it can pack with high percents (helped by its commonality)..the red handgun is swell =p

[Vejita]

hey its special attack is zonde!!
woohoo!!....er...

[Shrevn]

Whats so special? Lets put it this way... Youll be hitting stronger then anyone with a YAMATO or MUSASHI when you get one. *If you mag its high on the POW bar of course http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

[Blade_1]

The Red Handgun is rare this time around http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif I found Red Daggers with a SKYLY ID too.

[Atax]

So what level are people generally getting to before they start finding red weapons in ultimate?

I've done Ult Forrest dozens of times, and have found bugger all, except for a few mats and some Last Survivors. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

[Neo-Zenji]

I have obtained all red weapons on ultimate forest.

[HAYABUSA-FMW-]

On 2002-11-17 23:38, Atax wrote:
So what level are people generally getting to before they start finding red weapons in ultimate?

I've done Ult Forrest dozens of times, and have found bugger all, except for a few mats and some Last Survivors. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif


What is your Section ID?
REDRIA finds RED series weapons the most now.
For everyone else it is much less common than in DC v2.

[Atax]

I'm Skyly.

[Mixfortune]

On DC I didn't find Red Handgun, just Red Saber in Forest I believe. Found Red Daggers and Red Sword later, and went all through Ultimate Dark Falz with a 0% Red Sword http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Also in DC, even the strongest ver.1 weps would do much less against Ultimate caves and later. The forest seemed like a buffer zone where you could get a ver.2 rare with out-of-whack stat boosts to fights with in later areas. My poor Spirit Gungnir 60% dropped from 1600dam to 32dam in mines if I did'nt cast Zalure (one of the only difficulties where it is actually a good idea to use it)

In the DC version, you could only get the new special weapons from certain monsters (Red Sword from Govulmer/Vulmer for example). Is it still this way, or can I find Red Swords in Ult Forests?

[RedFox]

during my first online play in ULT somebody was kind enough to give me an s-rank handgun which done the business (2000 damage or there abouts) on the forest. during the two weeks it took me to realise that it had a 180% native stat i must have found at least 30 red handguns/sabers and i sold them all...

i immediatly sold it and reverted back to using a varista(?/?/?/?/?) and a gungnir(45/0/0/0/40) all of as sudden the red weapons just magically dissapeared.

i then eventually found a red handgun which was a great relief as i finally had a reasonable ATP to survive. overall i would consider the red handgun to be the introdutionary weapon to ULT modes skyhigh stats.

now... must stop preaching my life story...

[Al-Rappy]

Eh... I still don't think it's that great. Besides I'm doing really well with my Yamato +35. The red handgun only does about 100 damage in forest where as my Yamato does about 150.

[TeamPhalanx]

It's really not taht great. Remember, it all comes down to the %. For example, I have both a MUSASHI and YAMATO, but I go with teh MUSASHI since it has 40% native.

When ungrinded, a VARISTA isn't too far off from a RED HANDGUN's stats.

[BrokenHope]

On 2002-11-17 23:44, Neo-Zenji wrote:
I have obtained all red weapons on ultimate forest.



You sure do like lying since the only red weapons in forest are handgun, saber and partisan. Daggers and sword are in caves.

But then you also claimed to have a level 200 char on jp and a level 147 on US and then conveniently they got corrupted before you could show anybody.

[TeamPhalanx]

What drops the partisan? And, more importantly, can REDRIA find it?

[BrokenHope]

On 2002-11-18 11:40, TeamPhalanx wrote:
What drops the partisan? And, more importantly, can REDRIA find it?



Whitill PAL rappy, don't think redria can get the partisan at all. Someone posted a very good Redria item drop chart at ah kings forums it's almost complete for ult monster drops.

Here it is:

Episode 1

Bartle: Diska of Braveman
Barble: Inferno Bazooka
Tallow: Red Saber
Mothvert: Mahu
Hildelt: God/Battle
Hildetorr: magic rock "Irista"
El Rappy: Sacred Cloth
Pal Rappy: Red Handgun
Gulgus: God/Mind
Gulgus-Gue: Red Saber
Sil Dragon: Diska of Braveman

Vulmer: Guilty Light
Govulmer: Sacred Guard
Melqueek: Red Sword
Crimson Assasin: Asuka
Nano Dragon: Red Slicer
Poufoully Slime: Guard Wave
Poully Slime: Lavis Cannon
Pan Arms: Sange
Ob Lilly: Cure/Poison
Mil Lilly: Demolitian Comet
Dal Ra Lie: Diska of Braveman

Gillchich: TP/Revival
Dubchich: Luminous Field
Canadin: DB Sword (Mick Co Version)
Canune:
Sinow Blue: Kasami Bracer
Sinow Red:
Baranz: Red Scorpio
Vol Opt V2: GOD/HP

Arlan: Diska of Braveman
Merlan: DF Field
Del-D: Red Mechgun
Claw: Celestial Armor (Blue Box)
Bulclaw: God/Technique
Delsaber: Delsabers Left Arm
Indi Belra: Meteor Cudgel
Gran Sorcerer:
Dark Gunner: Smoking Plate
Dark Bringer: Spread Needle

Episode 2

Arlan: Diska of Braveman
Merlan: God/Legs
Del-D: Cure-Slow
Crimson Assasin: God/Technique
El Rappy:
Love Rappy: God/Luck
Ob Lilly: Victor Axe
Mil Lilly: Windmill
Indi Belra: Flight Cutter
Hildelt: Flowens Sword (Mick Co Version)

Gillchich: Electro Frame
Dubchich: magic rock "Moola"
Gulgus: Agito (AWU 1977)
Gulgus-Gue: Agito (AWU 1980)
Pan Arms:
Hidoom: Diska of Liberator
Migium: Diska of Braveman
Baranz: Panzerfaust
Delsaber: Flowens Shield

Merrlia: Agito (AWU 1991)
Gee: Angry Fist
Ul Gibbon: Stag Cutterly
Zol Gibbon: Brighness Circle
Sinow Berill: Sinow Berills Hands
Sinow Spigel: Soul Banisher
Jungle Miniboss: Asuka
Seaside Miniboss: Gi Gues Body
Gal Gryphon: Gal Gryphon Wing

Reco:
Recobox:
Morfos: Stink Frame
Dolmolm: Monkey King Bar
Dolmdarl: Perfect/Resist
Del-Depth:
Sinow Zoa: Ano Rifle
Delbiter: Hitogana

[Amethyst]

I think even Hunters can use a red hand gun. Thats nice.

When my friends android got to ultimate he did no damage with his hell laser. He entirely depended on confuse, freeze, and damage traps. Once he got the red hand gun with some percent to natives he actually killed them himself.

[CKTurbo]

I got a Red Handgun from a Pal Rappy in Ult. Forest a couple of days ago. I, too, am a REDRIA. It has some pretty good percentage on it too (Nature: 25%, A. Beast: 15%). There really isn't anything too special about it (except it was real handy in DC v2), but it's much better than the VARISTA I was using for my main gun weapon. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

- CKTurbo

[TeamPhalanx]

Dammit, dammit, dammit!!!

RED weapons now only grind up to 40!!!

[Spartan117]

On what system do the grind up to 40?

[Mixfortune]

WHOA I knew this thread was old just by the topic header.
BTW, Red Weapons on ver.2 DC used to be grindable near
100 or something. They have been reduced for the XBOX/GC.

Don't bump old topics.

[Genoa]

http://www.pso-world.com/items.php?op=viewarticle&artid=178 (+50 on version 3)

[Ketchup345]

Please don't bump old topics. Read this. (http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=67583&forum=1&0)

[ABDUR101]

On 2003-10-23 16:34, Ketchup345 wrote:
Please don't bump old topics. Read this. (http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=67583&forum=1&0)


Exactly.