Dear Sega. Fortetecher is a HORRID localization.

[Remedy]

That is all.

*will never willingly refer to the class as anything but Fortecher*

[Choja]

Seconded! You should know why. Really.

[Remedy]

Why they localized it like crap, or why it should be Fortecher?

[Choja]

On 2006-11-30 21:05, Remedy wrote:
Why they localized it like crap, or why it should be Fortecher?

Why the hell is it Fortetecher anyways? That's just asking for... something. I know Forte is in there, but adding -cher could have solved it well. Is SoA so scared of plagiarizing SoJ? D:
...Moatoob TOTOTOTOTOTOTOTEM Pole. That is all.

[Sychosis]

My title shall remain until such time that I become a fortecher.

Fortetecher reminds me of Yu-Gi-Oh. It's time to d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-duel!

[Tahldon]

Fortetecher is hell to roll off the tongue..

Hm... Would I be ridiculed for saying "Master Force" or "Pure Force" instead? http://www.angelfire.com/droid/boltz/meg15.bmp

Class names are confusing.......

....sometimes..

[Midicronica]

It's good to see that I'm not the only one who found Fortetecher odd.

[A2K]

There are stranger instances on Sega's list of odd localizations than this extra "te".

[Remedy]

On 2006-11-30 21:08, Choja wrote:
Why the hell is it Fortetecher anyways?Because Clumsy touches himself at night to young, loli newman girls?

[Strider_M]

Even if they localized it... People are going to Abbreviate it anyway...

Hey Dude! What are ya?!

FT... you?!

FG

Is that Fighgun or ForHun?

ForHun... lol it sounds like Foriegn.

LOL

[Sychosis]

On 2006-11-30 21:10, A2K wrote:
There are stranger instances on Sega's list of odd localizations than this extra "te".



But none that we care about http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Candor]

just say fT if you don't want to spell it right

[Vorpal]

Boo hoo. They made it Forte like the other classes, which I think it was meant in the first place.

[VanHalen]

its not really that bad they could have called it a wizard its just and extra syllabyle(i spelt that wrong didnt i?)

[Tahldon]

Psh, the net has enough abbreviations and acronyms as it is. Soon people are going to just be speaking in sentences with no kind of grammar what so ever and no word exceeding three letters..

I'll prefer to just call it something else..

[Choja]

On 2006-11-30 21:09, Tahldon wrote:
Fortetecher is hell to roll off the tongue..

Hm... Would I be ridiculed for saying "Master Force" or "Pure Force" instead? http://www.angelfire.com/droid/boltz/meg15.bmp

Class names are confusing.......

....sometimes..

Have you seen a force named "Use The FORCE" yet?

Remedy: ClumsyOrchid's clumsy enough to bump into a situation like that with some unknown cameraman recording it all.

[Niki]

SoA couldn't afford to employ QA testers for the title and since developers don't know shit about QA, wysiwyg. It's a shame, but that's on the Production staff and the procurers.

[Realmz]

i forone will keep saying figunner, cause i'm just used to it =p

[Pengfishh]

OMG NO THE WORLD IS OVER BECAUSE OMG THERE'S AN EXTRA TE COMBINATION OMG IT'S SO TERRIBLE DAMN YOU SEGA FOR THIS PERSONAL SLIGHT OMG SO TERRIBLE.

Shut the fuck up, you silly bitch. lol.

[Choja]

On 2006-11-30 21:17, Pengfishh wrote:
OMG NO THE WORLD IS OVER BECAUSE OMG THERE'S AN EXTRA TE COMBINATION OMG IT'S SO TERRIBLE DAMN YOU SEGA FOR THIS PERSONAL SLIGHT OMG SO TERRIBLE.

Shut the fuck up, you silly bitch. lol.

because this is serious buisness.

[Sychosis]

On 2006-11-30 21:17, Pengfishh wrote:
OMG NO THE WORLD IS OVER BECAUSE OMG THERE'S AN EXTRA TE COMBINATION OMG IT'S SO TERRIBLE DAMN YOU SEGA FOR THIS PERSONAL SLIGHT OMG SO TERRIBLE.

Shut the fuck up, you silly bitch. lol.



We forces are prima donnas, a very vain people. NOW GTFO UNTIL YOU BRING ME A BOWL OF 1,337 ORANGE M&Ms!

[Vorpal]

because this is serious buisness.

Totally. It's the next Katrina.

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[VanHalen]

the only really bad translation(not unless its the same in japan idk) is techniques being named TECHNICs and pronounced techniques. or maybe i dont like the fact its in all caps

[Gazette]

To be fair, "Forte" refers to one with superior strength.
In such a context I suppose "Fort" may work if you go by the idea of something being reinforced (eg: "Fortified with Calcium, drink your milk, Kids!"). Though even that is a stretch.

Either way, it's just an "e," get over it.

[Maxson]

I'm guessing it's pronounced "fort", not "for-tay". Both are acceptable and popular pronunciations.

http://www.webster.com/dictionary/forte

I think "fort-techer" is far easier and cooler sounding than "for-tay-techer", so that's what I'm going with.

[Gazette]

No, Forte does work a hell of a lot better than Fort given the job description.
It's isn't a Force, it's a Stronger-Force.



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[Genobee]

I'm pretty sure it's sapose to mean Forte Techer as in One who is Speacialised in Technics, Same with ForteFighter, speacialised in fighting, and fortegunner one who is speacialised in gunniry

[Maxson]

Hm... well, it's just a pronunciation difference, the meaning is still "superior strength" or "one's strong point". If people don't like the extra syllable, they can just ignore it.

[KirinDave]

This thread is awesome. Content update comes in, everyone has been asking (demanding!) it. It has pretty much everything we want, opens up a huge amount of new content. ST delivered.

So what does the PSOW-forumite do? Find something utterly trivial to complain about.

[SonicTMP]

On 2006-11-30 22:00, KirinDave wrote:
ST delivered.


ST is posed to deliver. They haven't yet. God knows what other things can happen between now and the promised date.

As for the topic. Fortetecher. It rolls off the tounge like a fine french whine. tomato tamoto anyone?

[Schubalts]

Hurray for us!

[Gazette]

On 2006-11-30 22:00, KirinDave wrote:

So what does the Remedy do? Find something utterly trivial to complain about.



Fixed that for you.

[FenixStryk]

So let me get this straight. You don't mind Fortefighter or Fortegunner, but you mind Fortetecher? Look at it. Forte-fighter. Forte-gunner. Forte-cher? That's way out of whack. What's a -cher?

[Kent]

I'm guessing they just decided to keep it consistant with the "Forte" part meaning someone who's specialized in one thing. For those complaining... Would you rather they used "Uber" instead?

[Shadow_Wing]

Ubergunner, Uberfighter, Ubertecher

Yea... doesn't work as well

[SonicTMP]

warrior, hunter, red wizard.. wait wrong game.....

[FenixStryk]

On 2006-11-30 23:37, Shadow_Wing wrote:
Ubergunner, Uberfighter, UbertecherYea... doesn't work as wellOh yeah, and Ubercher makes perfect sense.

[KirinDave]

On 2006-11-30 22:03, Gazette wrote:

On 2006-11-30 22:00, KirinDave wrote:

So what does the Remedy do? Find something utterly trivial to complain about.



Fixed that for you.



My bad. Sorry.

[AnamanaAU]

You guys will whine about anything.

[Genobee]

On 2006-12-01 00:18, JubeiSaotome wrote:
You guys will whine about anything.



well your whining about us whining. that makes you a second hand whinner.

[Uncle_bob]

On 2006-12-01 00:28, Genobee wrote:

On 2006-12-01 00:18, JubeiSaotome wrote:
You guys will whine about anything.



well your whining about us whining. that makes you a second hand whinner.



He's not whining, he's making a statement. Get off his nuts.

[-Shimarisu-]

Has anyone missed the fact that it's pronounced like the French?

For-tay-techer.

So what's a For-tay-cher?

[AnamanaAU]

Fighfighter is something to whine about. Fortetecher is decent.

[ZiG]

Forte means strong.

As in musical score, to play Forte means to play strongly, powerfully.
Also, if something is your Forte (i.e. "I'm good at football, but basketball is my forte.") that means you're good at it.

Fortetecher. Makes sense, it's a stronger Force.

Why is this a big deal again?

[Flunky]

I was gonna hop in and give te whole pronuncin' deal, but ZiG and Shimarisu already covered it (I thought for-tay was italian, though, and the french had a silent 'e'... then again, it's been over 4 years since I've heard a word of either and my language memory/skills are crap, so yeah).

Right.

[Weeaboolits]

yes, Forte-techer makes more sense, but it is far less fun to say ^_^'
Fortecher! For-TECHER! Fuerte...
I'm done...

[Tra]

Remedy is a fucking idiot posting this same topic on the official forums (not the first time), he just wants attention I guess

[Rhylsh]

I was gonna hop in and give te whole pronuncin' deal, but ZiG and Shimarisu already covered it (I thought for-tay was italian, though, and the french had a silent 'e'... then again, it's been over 4 years since I've heard a word of either and my language memory/skills are crap, so yeah).



Generally you're right on the silent e, but i believe in this situation a proper french spelling would have an accent on it, forcing the pronounciation of the sylable. Lazy english keyboard makers. I blame them.



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[Gazette]

It's a moot point though, Remedy calling "Forte" a bad localization is like saying that "saber" should have been called "sabe" because he doesn't like saying the last "r".

Removing that "e" changes the description, not just the spelling.

[Superguppie]

No idea what is bad about either Fortecher or Fortetecher, whichever it is. They could have done worse and typo in an a.....I would have definitely gone for that one!

[AnamanaAU]

On 2006-12-01 02:01, Tra wrote:
Remedy is a fucking idiot posting this same topic on the official forums (not the first time), he just wants attention I guess

[Gazette]

Forte* implies strength or great skill.
Fort is just... a building, a fort, maybe you could stretch it to reinforced, but that sounds like the force is a lumbering monster with great defenses.

I digress, Remedy is just ignorant when he says that they translated it wrong.

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[mogshaz]

Its not bad localization, its just a really idiotic naming scheme. They might as well have named Fortetechers

'really strong magic guys'

[Sexy_Raine]

All of the expert class names suck.

[Neith]

'Fortefight'?

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif

[Sychosis]

Fortecaster would have been acceptable.

[Thrash777]

Fighter = Hunter
Gunner = Ranger
Techer = Force

Forte = expert

The combine all of these in the expert classes:

Forte-fighter
Forte-gunner
For-te-cher (instead of two "te" in it, to shorten it, yes, its stupid, but thats what they've done)
Fi-gunner (FIghter/gunner)
War-techer (as in WARrior I guess, instead of Fi-techer...)
Gun-techer(GUNner/techer)

[Lovejuice]

The majority of US PSU players will probably call them Forces regardless.

"NEED FO TO JOIN PLZ", "FORCE WELCOME", "KICK IF NOT FORCE RESTA", "WAITING FOR FO TO JOIN".

[MayLee]

I kept calling it (For-teck-er)

I kknow Forte is in there..-_-

[Akaimizu]

Heh. I think it's amusing. Particularly from a music point of view.

Now I can call them Loud techers.

Of course, a TRUE Forte Techer would treat their techniques like a Pilot treats his or her attacks in an old Robot Show. An example of Rafoie.

cue music from Mazinger Z

Pilot: "Here it comes!!!! Raaaaaaaaa Fooooyyyy aaaaaayyyyyy!!!!"

Monster: Mwuoooooooor!!! (translation: Such.........Power....Gwaaah!!)

[Weeaboolits]

On 2006-12-01 08:02, Akaimizu wrote:
Heh. I think it's amusing. Particularly from a music point of view.

Now I can call them Loud techers.

Of course, a TRUE Forte Techer would treat their techniques like a Pilot treats his or her attacks in an old Robot Show. An example of Rafoie.

cue music from Mazinger Z

Pilot: "Here it comes!!!! Raaaaaaaaa Fooooyyyy aaaaaayyyyyy!!!!"

Monster: Mwuoooooooor!!! (translation: Such.........Power....Gwaaah!!)




Now I miss PSO Rafoie, made the boomas go boom!

[Akaimizu]

The PSO Rafoie was two things.

To some, it was called "Dragon Slave!!!!"

To others it was called "Kill Stealer!"

[Weeaboolits]

to me it was, OMG THIS MOVE DOESN'T DO CRAP ON V.HARD!

[Zio]

I dont see anything wrong with it. Forte techer as in fortay techer.

[Relam]

On 2006-12-01 08:02, Akaimizu wrote:
Heh. I think it's amusing. Particularly from a music point of view.

Now I can call them Loud techers.

Of course, a TRUE Forte Techer would treat their techniques like a Pilot treats his or her attacks in an old Robot Show. An example of Rafoie.

cue music from Mazinger Z

Pilot: "Here it comes!!!! Raaaaaaaaa Fooooyyyy aaaaaayyyyyy!!!!"

Monster: Mwuoooooooor!!! (translation: Such.........Power....Gwaaah!!)




And this is why I wish I could make a macro that would let me cast Ra Zonde at the same time I say THUNDAAA BREAK!

[waluigi1]

I don't think they messed up...The others are Fortegunner and Fortefighter...So it only makes sense for it to be Fortetecher...It would make more sense for it to be Fortecher but I don't think it was a localization mess up...

[ZiG]

On 2006-12-01 05:40, Thrash777 wrote:

For-te-cher (instead of two "te" in it, to shorten it, yes, its stupid, but thats what they've done)





Have you read any of the posts at all?

This is NOT what they've done, this is what Remedy wants it to be.

[Weak]

Y'know, I don't like keyboards.

I mean, they kinda resemble boards, but I don't see any keys. Keys are for unlocking things! They should call them buttonboards.



Wait, I'm a fucking stupid, like this topic.

[Akaimizu]

To a hacker, those keyboard keys ARE for unlocking. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Candor]

On 2006-12-01 11:33, Weak wrote:
Y'know, I don't like keyboards.

I mean, they kinda resemble boards, but I don't see any keys. Keys are for unlocking things! They should call them buttonboards.



Wait, I'm a fucking stupid, like this topic.


keyboards shall henceforth be refered to as Buttonboards because Weak said it

[Maskim]

Ok, it's been said multiple times, and it's just common sense people, but some folks don't pay attention. Fortefighter...fighting is their forte. Their speciality. Fortegunner...guns, and getting the best from them is their forte. Fortetecher..Techs and teching is their forte. Fortecher's just retarded and wouldn't make any sense whatsoever, whether you dislike the way fortetecher sounds or not.