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Cause_I_Own_U
Dec 8, 2006, 04:58 AM
Whats with them? They taking forever to even fix such a simple thing?

I mean i want to play a fortefighter bad, and the gh 450 is pretty much mandatory for me to be able to solo anything without going back to town a billion times

It would perma heal me and my beast NPC whill we go on a rampage nanoblasting all over enemies faces, but without it me and leo are a joke!! this sucks

PaladinRPG
Dec 8, 2006, 03:00 PM
Just thought I'd mention...

It appears the healing abilities of the Technic PM have returned. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif I was doing some axe testing on Moatoob and I noticed all the rod were not fire-photon colored. Then while tanking some Bil De Bears on B rank I was at 50% HP and it used the ever loving Resta a few times. It doesn't heal nearly as frequently as before, but it serves its role properly now. This is the best Christmas present for me. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

Witchblade56
Dec 8, 2006, 03:02 PM
w00t time to feed my tech PM now http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

PALRAPPYS
Dec 8, 2006, 03:03 PM
That's good! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif Now, I have to buy a PM Zero and start feeding it so it gets more tech than strike this time around! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

SkiLLz003
Dec 8, 2006, 03:04 PM
yeah they also fixed 410-420 it looks like i was testing axe as well. and my stoopid mag dropped yellow about 1/3 hp and i was like CRAP "as i went to kick her" she started mass curing herself to full. i dont know if thats because my B St is high but hell she did her job finally lol http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif <3 this patch

PaladinRPG
Dec 8, 2006, 03:07 PM
On 2006-12-08 12:04, SkiLLz003 wrote:
yeah they also fixed 410-420 it looks like i was testing axe as well. and my stoopid mag dropped yellow about 1/3 hp and i was like CRAP "as i went to kick her" she started mass curing herself to full. i dont know if thats because my B St is high but hell she did her job finally lol http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif <3 this patch

I suppose then that this patch was the blanket "NPC healing AI" fix. Good to hear.

Bast
Dec 8, 2006, 03:44 PM
On 2006-12-08 12:04, SkiLLz003 wrote:
yeah they also fixed 410-420 it looks like i was testing axe as well. and my stoopid mag dropped yellow about 1/3 hp and i was like CRAP "as i went to kick her" she started mass curing herself to full. i dont know if thats because my B St is high but hell she did her job finally lol http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif <3 this patch



I thought the 410 and 420 were melee based PMs (Striking) and the only one that cures is the 450. Will the 410/420 just cure themselves when they are low or you as well?

And when they do cure themselves, if you're close, will you get cured as well?

If the 410/420 cure you too, then I might not need to make the Strk70/Tech30 450.

AeraLure
Dec 8, 2006, 03:54 PM
Woo. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif Got the PM Zero this am and finally started my 450 with some of my savings. Was going to make it anyway, but so much happier to hear its sort of working again.

Bookmandude
Dec 8, 2006, 04:00 PM
On 2006-12-08 12:44, Bast wrote:

On 2006-12-08 12:04, SkiLLz003 wrote:
yeah they also fixed 410-420 it looks like i was testing axe as well. and my stoopid mag dropped yellow about 1/3 hp and i was like CRAP "as i went to kick her" she started mass curing herself to full. i dont know if thats because my B St is high but hell she did her job finally lol http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif <3 this patch



I thought the 410 and 420 were melee based PMs (Striking) and the only one that cures is the 450. Will the 410/420 just cure themselves when they are low or you as well?

And when they do cure themselves, if you're close, will you get cured as well?

If the 410/420 cure you too, then I might not need to make the Strk70/Tech30 450.



I can only speak for the 410. Post 12-8-06 update she would only cast resta when her hp fell below a certain point- 10% maybe(???). Her resta was not strong and only healed about 124 hp at a time. This would heal anyone who was next to her too. The downside was that as soon as her bar reach a green level (not full) she would stop casting resta.

It sounds like she will now cast until she is full. I haven't confirmed this myself yet.

Keep in mind, my pm is a level 100 and has a B st of over 31.

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif)

Cause_I_Own_U
Dec 8, 2006, 04:04 PM
Mine doesnt heal, does it have to be an insane B Level for it to heal consistently?

Cause_I_Own_U
Dec 8, 2006, 04:05 PM
On 2006-12-08 12:00, PaladinRPG wrote:
Just thought I'd mention...

It appears the healing abilities of the Technic PM have returned. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif I was doing some axe testing on Moatoob and I noticed all the rod were not fire-photon colored. Then while tanking some Bil De Bears on B rank I was at 50% HP and it used the ever loving Resta a few times. It doesn't heal nearly as frequently as before, but it serves its role properly now. This is the best Christmas present for me. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif



Does it heal alot? or just every full moon?

LeMan_Bayon
Dec 8, 2006, 04:24 PM
Maya doesn't seem to be healing me still. (X360)

BlueFire2k5
Dec 8, 2006, 04:34 PM
My tech PM doesn't heal very well on the 360. It did heal once when I was testing her and got down to ~30 hit points, but I tried that a few more times and she wouldn't heal any more after that.

Cause_I_Own_U
Dec 8, 2006, 06:41 PM
de jah vu 4tw

AlphaMinotaux
Dec 8, 2006, 09:13 PM
the 450 would go over to me when im low in health and heal me once in a while. Probably once its Battle Level is raised it will heal more.

Bast
Dec 8, 2006, 10:29 PM
For hunter, would someone recommend using a 410 (100 Pure Strike) or 450 (70 Strike & 30 Tech)? I mostly solo, so I was thinking the 450 (70 Strike & 30 Tech) to heal. With this, I guess I can still make melee weapons, but not as good as a pure strike PM.

PaladinRPG
Dec 8, 2006, 11:11 PM
On 2006-12-08 19:29, Bast wrote:
For hunter, would someone recommend using a 410 (100 Pure Strike) or 450 (70 Strike & 30 Tech)? I mostly solo, so I was thinking the 450 (70 Strike & 30 Tech) to heal. With this, I guess I can still make melee weapons, but not as good as a pure strike PM.

That's why I made my 450... 67 strike and 33 tech. The mixed configuration is not as good for synth, but you'll be able to make 5* weapons at 75% (an overall 19% bonus), while a pure striking PM would get about 85% on the same synth (a 28% overall bonus). The 450 also can make you some 5* Hajirods at about 65% chance, too.

Tenzntwentiez
Dec 9, 2006, 01:49 AM
No, i made a post RIGHT AFTER the patch, the 450 is not fixed, it always healed when its hp is low even when bugged. Maybe u had a fluke. Sega needs to let us know if this is really a bug or its just a gimp. And no telling the japanese and having someone translate to us what Sega said is NOT enough. I want to hear it from them direct and i dont want to talk to Juan from tech support. If you dont believe me go take ur 450 for a stroll. Make sure you deposit your scapes and be prepared to die.



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Maskim
Dec 9, 2006, 01:51 AM
On 2006-12-08 22:49, Tenzntwentiez wrote:
No, i made a post RIGHT AFTER the patch, the 450 is not fixed, it always healed when its hp is low even when bugged. Maybe u had a fluke. Sega needs to let us know if this is really a bug or its just a gimp. And no telling the japanese and having someone translate to us what Sega said is NOT enough. I want to hear it from them direct and i dont want to talk to Juan from tech support. If you dont believe me go take ur 450 for a stroll.



I have, and so far, everytime i hit 1/6-1/5 my hp, it whips out its wand and restas, no matter where its hp are currently at.

*shrug*

Sucks if it's still broken...but mine seems to be working fine. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Tenzntwentiez
Dec 9, 2006, 01:54 AM
what runs are you doing? and what lvl is ur pm? I have only tried 450 in A-S ranks. And i never got a heal.
Maybe they just nerfed the 450, and made it lame. I still wish sega would tell us that and not have us making posts like these.



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AlphaMinotaux
Dec 9, 2006, 02:04 AM
they do heal when low in health but thats pretty much it, on a rare ocassion it will run up to you and heal you when you are low but this is most liekly based on the PM's battle Level. all theories, prove me wrong please XD either way dont trust it to heal you or itself in battle. my 450 is only lvl 5 so im not sure how the AI acts at higher lvl.


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Neo187H
Dec 9, 2006, 02:12 AM
My pure range PM healed me once(or tried to at least) randomly last night (before the update). 430 I think it is? I was doing solo A rank relics and it whipped out a wand in her main hand with the silenced pistol she usually uses. I was extremly low HP and it was right before I got dealt the deathblow, I heard the sound of healing and than I died. But as the camera was swiveling around my deadbody I could see my PM with a wand in her hand. Thats the only time that has ever happened and I wasn't even in range of the heal, so I have no clue what it was about.



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PaladinRPG
Dec 9, 2006, 02:16 AM
On 2006-12-08 22:51, Maskim wrote:
I have, and so far, everytime i hit 1/6-1/5 my hp, it whips out its wand and restas, no matter where its hp are currently at.

*shrug*

Sucks if it's still broken...but mine seems to be working fine. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Well, upon further testing I concur with your assessment. The GH-450 was healing itself before, and I tried running missions with low HP. It will heal you when you are at about 20% health. This is a bit low compared to what it used to do (heal you when you barely had a scratch), but at least now it IS healing.

SailorDaravon
Dec 9, 2006, 02:26 AM
Today (after update) my PM, a 430 no less, healed on two seperate occasions while soloing within an hour, something I'd never seen her do before, even at very low HP. The first time only she was low on health, and she did Resta about 3 times, which brought her up to about 75% HP (not full). 2nd time we were both low on health, and she did the same thing. It seemed to be triggered by her being at fairly low (15-20%) HP for more than a few seconds. Also first time it happened we were NOT in a battle. I'll try to check to see if she'll heal just me when I'm low on HP or not. I'm getting the feeling it's more of a self-survival reflex. But again, this never ever happened before the update.

Tomeeboy
Dec 9, 2006, 02:27 AM
Seems like they might have done what I was fearing... Took away all of the 450's usefullness and gave a little of it back once everyone was desperate enough to be happy with at least some healing.

Maskim
Dec 9, 2006, 02:28 AM
On 2006-12-08 23:16, PaladinRPG wrote:

On 2006-12-08 22:51, Maskim wrote:
I have, and so far, everytime i hit 1/6-1/5 my hp, it whips out its wand and restas, no matter where its hp are currently at.

*shrug*

Sucks if it's still broken...but mine seems to be working fine. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Well, upon further testing I concur with your assessment. The GH-450 was healing itself before, and I tried running missions with low HP. It will heal you when you are at about 20% health. This is a bit low compared to what it used to do (heal you when you barely had a scratch), but at least now it IS healing.



That's what I'm sayin'! It doesn't heal as soon as I'd like, but as long as I pull away from the thick of battle, it hasn't let me die yet.

For those wondering, I was running Parum B class missions, and the one I can do A, solo. Up until today I was soloing C only, but with the little healbot, I found these to be of little problem to do. I'm only a level 28 Newm Fighgunner.

One thing I noticed is that she doesn't come to me though, if we get seperated by mobs and I'm low though. I've got to go to her, but as soon as I do, and I'm in range, she whips out that wand.



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Tenzntwentiez
Dec 9, 2006, 02:34 AM
It seems to me the PM is still broken to me, The fact other PM model owners can relate to our 450 proves that the PM is still broke. Right now it just acts like all the other PM. I consider that broken since ours was made to heal and it should be set apart from the rest.

Whatever happened to SOJ giving a statement about broken 450? was there a followup? are they fixed? These are the questions which should have been answered a long time ago from them.

Maskim
Dec 9, 2006, 02:36 AM
But other 450 users are also stating that it's healing them without needing the heal itself. The other PM's heal, when their hp is extra low. Ours heals when our hp is extra low. It really does suck if it's still not working at all for you, but at least some folks have shared my experience with it. It's literally been a life saver, and having to not spend any money on mates today has been nice too.

Tenzntwentiez
Dec 9, 2006, 02:40 AM
taken from Neo's post about his ***430***

I was extremly low HP and it was right before I got dealt the deathblow, I heard the sound of healing and than I died.


I guess what im ranting about here is that i want sega to tell us what the hell are they doing with the 450 or what the hell did they do to it.




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Maskim
Dec 9, 2006, 03:02 AM
Oh, I agree they shoud let us know what's going on with it. I would assume, since Neo was dying, and probably no paying attention to his 430, since he only heard a healing, and saw a wand after he was dead, that the 430 was preserving its own life. This might be evidenced in the fact that it didn't bother having him within range to heal. More than likely, the 430 was quite wounded as well, saved its own alloy, and then looked down at its master's corpse thinking something along the lines of 'Gawd, there goes my S Rank.'