El/Im/Photon

[Umberger]

What exactly do they do differently?

I noticed my synth % went down when I used an El Photon...so are they all better at a certain type of synthesis? If so, which one is for what?

[Laranas]

El-Photon and Im-Photon (when given the choice to use them) lower the chance of success but gives a small chance of making a much better item with a successful synth. The chance is still pretty low from my experience, but if you're making a non-elemental and you can afford the % shave, why not?

[ViciousXUSMC]

el's I use for force weapons, i assume the other is for ranger weapons and the last for armor or somthing.

[Umberger]

Anyone have an example of what could be made into what by substituting in one of those photons?

[Laranas]

My friends on JP (I haven't logged on there since the launch here) says it usually just raised the rarity by 1*, so just check the next * of the same manufacturer. But as I said, it hasn't happened for me personally.

[Pengfishh]

They lower the rarity when used on the wrong weapon type. Ims are for ranged weapons and Els are for casting weapons. Elemental Photons and regular photons should be obvious.

[SolRiver]

It can also turn your weapon into a monomate if it was a 1-2* regardless of %

[The_Gio]

Man i went crazy looking for 5 Im-Photons to synth my vullseye, i dunno if has anything to do with anything but I used an Im. Also I remember they change the weapons element don't they?

[KiteWolfwood]

Double Saber when made with a Im photon creates a Falchion.

[FenixStryk]

On 2006-12-11 20:18, Laranas wrote:
El-Photon and Im-Photon (when given the choice to use them) lower the chance of success but gives a small chance of making a much better item with a successful synth.O RLY? I'll have to try that on my next Fluorescent Bulb synth. ;p

[ViciousXUSMC]

?? never heard that before. I know you can sub kub wood and get a diffrent wep when that option is present but you can use Els and stuf fon any hunter weapon I have tried to synth I belive... they just gave me a lower % and no element... so whats it make the next * weapon up instead by a small chance?

all force weapons use EL photons btw.

[AngelLight]

While this might be already known stuff....it's nevertheless good info. This should be stickied or at least put into a guide somewhere for others to see it.

[Umberger]

I wouldn't really call one question stickie worthy...unless someone compiles a list of what becomes what if subbed, then maybe.

But for now, it's fine as just a topic, maybe it can be added into an FAQ or something, but nothing more.

[usmcbama]

Let's play a game: see who can come up with the LOWEST synth percents by using El or Im photons AND kubara wood!

[Sitka]

It would be nice to have a guide of the subs that can be made and whether it is worthwhile or not.

For example, I dumped nearly 200,000 meseta into a board and materials for a Burst Rifle (8* weapon) and exitedly/cautiously put the board and materials into my 100 pure ranged PM.

For my first try, I went with Kubara Wood and was offered a Assanic (not Assassin) Rifle with a vague description and a chance of 48% success. It failed.

After cursing out yet another wasted ton of meseta, I ran Holy Relics until my eyes bled to get enough meseta for another attempt. This time I went with Parum Ebon and got a 54% chance success offer. This one worked and I've been happily roaming PSU blasting stuff with my new 8* weapon.

I've gone back to Relics to run until I can get enough meseta for my third and final attempt and I'm debating whether to go with Mot Ebon or make another attempt at the Kubara again. I like 54% better than 48%.

So, a guide of what using sub photons and woods etc... might yield and what the value of that yield might be would be very helpful I think.



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[Arislan]

Something to think about - We won't have A rank grinds for a long while, and Kubara is only *really* useful when ground.

[ViciousXUSMC]

the 6 & 8* guns use kubara wood as a sub for the kubara brand version of that weapon thats easy to know and document, its a lower % and they are weak weapons untill grinded very high. I personally think they are a waist since you need a +8/9/10 to make them better than the other weapon will be with a easy grind say +4/5 but once you do get those last 2 grinds the 9/10 they are stronger than even the +10 of the regular version tho not by much.

Given the chance to fail the synth and the chance to break the weapon in a grind before you can hit that area where they start to excell I say kubara weapons are not worth the risk/reward.