found summoner tedious to play, ill just focus on the classes i like.
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found summoner tedious to play, ill just focus on the classes i like.
I found summoner to be lazy mode. And I don't like the fact that whenever I play Summoner, I feel like i don't really have full command of the pets, 'cause of their AI's.
I prefer classes which requires a lot of action and reflex, also flashy (Gu/Ra 4 lyfe, Fi/Hu soon)...
Insert Maidoll's strip featuring Summoner here.
I like the class because it's what I wanted out of Force.
How exactly?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kondibon
Fo is more about elemental weaknesses and focusing on particular elements, when what I really want to do is use techs based off how they work mechanically, rather than whichever element things are weak to, or specing into a specific element. Not to mention needing a whole skill tree in some cases.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tunga
With pets I can just use whichever pet I feel works best in the situation I'm in instead of which pet the enemies just take 20-40% more damage from.
I don't think there's anything wrong with people not liking Summoner, everyone doesn't have to like every class, I've just been looking for an excuse to bring that up and it felt kinda relevant.
EDIT: Also I laugh when people say the class is lazy mode when it requires more positioning and attentiveness than Fo/Te. :U
My only complaint is the inconsistant pet AI, which most likely isn't intentional design in the first place. I don't mind if the AI is dumb, but it's too inconsistent.
Yeah SU isnt really lazy mode.
It's fairly strong on the micromanaging for optimal play.
I dont play SuBr tho. I currently play SuGu and SuFi, so my typical Su gameplay is already more nuanced than normal.
But even with SuBr, trying to keep up with your pets demands, making sure their constantly Shifted and at full HP, proper positioning, working with the pet AI, making sure you have the right pet for the job. Satifying the conditionals of your pet and your sub as well.
It makes for more tedious gameplay than lazy if you cant find yourself enjoying the class.
I think the lack of JA circles might prematurely convince someone that Su is lazy since you can button mash with like very little consequence to your DPS (not for Sally tho fucking asshole)
My biggest complaint about Summoner is that you cannot actually earn a 13* egg that is quite significant for pets due to attack, defense(helps for Alter Ego), personality, AND element increases. While certain 13* Parfaits can be earned, they can be stacked with 13* pets as well. Every other class can earn their respective 13* weapons at this point and so output comparison from the general population is most likely looking at the damage of pets lower than 13* to 13* weapons of other classes that makes Summoner seem weak in comparison. Honestly, having tried 13* weapons of all categories besides eggs really does make Summoner feel weak.
What I actually like about Summoner especially for Torim and Wanda is that each PA serves a purpose. It's also a change of pace from how I usually play compared to every other classes, so I guess there's that too.
Many people resent the pick up stones for 13* concept, so sega tried to please us with drop only eggs
I listed all my Summoner issues elsewhere.
I think I listed most of my Su/Br reasons already too, but here they are again:
Reasons I play Su/Br:
- Great utility/versatility, especially in solo/small groups. Can flatten most enemies easily, without WB.
- Torim Stab kinda feels like a railgun in a way. Pierces through multiple enemies for huge numbers.
- Setting up and getting the big numbers from Torim Spiral can be satisfying.
- Guren Tessen for fast travel.
- Trying to get higher rarity eggs to drop, and they still won't.
I don't understand the rare egg distribution. It's like SEGA is trying to gimp us on purpose.
Over 3 characters, I've gotten a billion 10-11 star Saris, only a few 10 star Torims, one 12 star Torim and almost no 10+ star Wandas.
Wanda is supposed to be the all around pet. You'd think that'd be the most common one.
If they weren't adding new pets, I'd really like to have seen the Arks Report for pet usage.
It'd probably be something like 80% Torim, 18% Wanda and 2% Sari.