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I actually asked this same thing on reddit, and based on the answers I got there, the gap in performance I've been seeing really just comes down to the fact that I built my rod for PP management...

Can someone give me a run down on the pros and cons of Fo/Ph vs Ph main? I've been seeing people say that there's no reason to run Fo/Ph at all and that you should just run Ph, but in my experience,...

Thanks guys, that all matches up with my ow nexperiences with fire techs, I just wanted some outside opinions.

Can someone give me a rundown of what problems fire techs have besides the poor pp efficiency?

I'm torn between the anacates rod and the genon talis. Genon with cursed radiance seems like better pp recovery, even if I'm not using it as my main weapon because you can spam tap nabarta-0 with it...

I'm considering using the anacates rod and genon talis to get around the pp problems Fo can have with non-te subclasses. After messing around with the Anacates DS and seeing how the pot works, It...

Having thought about it, as much as I think they could use a bit more damage, I think it's important to remember the utility they have.

Re Zandia shouldn't do competitive DPS. It's a mini Julius...

I see it used in the LQ too, since it's faster than zondeel.
They don't even need to be the best dps or anything, just better than they are. Their cost is too high for utility techs, but their...

I'm pretty curious what japanese players have to say about them. I imagine it's the same as here though.

You have to mash for Re Zandia, not hold it. Holding just lets you aim like Ilfoie and Zonde 0

It's still not amazing DPS, but in group mob content it can function as a bigger, faster zondeel.

So, Re Zandia uses a total of 156 pp for a full cast, but 66 of that is the initial cost. It's probably more cost effective to hold it as long as possible rather than go straight for the finisher.

Nothing, they just aren't very good. The PP cost makes their utility kinda moot too. I don't want them to be much stronger though (except Barantsia), I'd rather they get their innitial pp costs...

Re Zandia and Refolmeglia can be used while you have a talis thrown. I haven't messed around enough to know if they get the talis tech bonus or not, but they probably do.

Ah. I thought it was a seperate multiplier based on Element Conversion rather than directly modifying the skill. that makes sense.

Can you show me how you're doing to get that? Because I thought it would be 1.30*1.15, not 1.30+0.15.

Ew. Why would they do it like that? I guess that means free lightning techs though. :wacko:

Mathmatically is it really that much of a stretch that a Talis could do slightly more with talis tech bonus active? The biggest benifit to Psycho Drive is the fact that you can use it with any...

You mean 18? >_>

The latent and rod shoot both deal damage, but the rod does nothing for your techs, which are the main purpose of using a rod in the first place. MAYBE use one for PP recovery while doing your...

Yeah I know, I was just trying to explain that it's kind of annoying to use if you just want a quick knock back or easy melee range burst with wind.

Safoie is good for movement because it moves you vertically and actually stops when you hit an enemy. Ramegid is ok for throwing up before going into melee, but isn't particularly powerful on its...

I guess I just need to practice.

How exactly does jump canceling techs work? I assume you would need a macro do it quickly, but I figured I should ask.

I thought the thing about them is that the time between casting and the JA circle is slightly longer, not that they actually have longer cast times.

Maybe I should try it crafted then. :/