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    I get too many idiots often claiming
    SET IN ORDER IS BROKEN
    SET IN ORDER IS BROKEN
    SET IN ORDER IS BROKEN
    IT IS NOT BROKEN.

    I conducted some tests on how set in order worked. Kept track of drops and when it dropped.

    The truths behind set in order:
    Every person is guarenteed a rare as long as the number of rares dropped are equal to the number of party members and all those members were in the party from the drop(picked up) of the first rare to the drop(picked up) of the last rare found.
    Set in order DOES NOT skip people. Only people skip rares.
    When a rare is dropped, it is automatically assigned to the person who is next in order REGARDLESS if you or a party member picked it up or not, that rare is DESTINED TO BE YOURS FOREVER.
    When a rare is picked up, set in order starts a "round" of who gets the rare. This "round" ends when everyone involved in that "round" gets 1 rare. When the "round" ends, set in order starts a new round.
    People who join after set in order started a round, do not join the round until a new round starts.
    When a mission is completed or abandoned, the round automatically ends. This round is not continued onto the next mission.
    The order in each round has a chance of being different or being the same but more so being different because set in order randomizes the order after a round has been completed.


    Here's one specific scenario that should reveal much about set in order.

    In a party, person A, B, C, D, E, and F are currently participating. Rares are set in order. A rare has been dropped and Person B got the rare when it got picked up. Because a rare has dropped, a set-in-order-round has begun. Person F has left the party and a new party member has joined, this person is known has F2 but person F2 will not get any rares this round because he joined late. Person B, C, D and E have now each received a rare. The round ends and a new round has started with person F2 in the order now.

    Name Round 1
    Person A| Received a Rare |
    Person B| Received a Rare |
    Person C| Received a Rare |
    Person D| Received a Rare |
    Person E| Received a Rare |
    Person F| Replaced by F2 |

    A rare has dropped and Person C got the rare. 2 more rares have dropped and Person B and D got a rare. A [B] Moon Atomizer X has dropped and person A, E and F2 frown upon it. No one picks it up but in truth, that rare has already been assigned to someone. 2 more rares have been dropped and Person E and F got them.

    Name======Round 1=======Round 2
    Person A| Received a Rare | Skipped |
    Person B| Received a Rare | Received a Rare |
    Person C| Received a Rare | Received a Rare |
    Person D| Received a Rare | Received a Rare |
    Person E| Received a Rare | Received a Rare |
    Person F| Replaced by F2 | Received a Rare |

    Because everyone in round 2 have assigned and supposebly received a rare, round 3 starts. Everyone found a rare for him/herself.

    Name======Round 1======Round 2====Round 3
    Person A| Received a Rare | Skipped | Received a Rare |
    Person B| Received a Rare | Received a Rare | Received a Rare |
    Person C| Received a Rare | Received a Rare | Received a Rare |
    Person D| Received a Rare | Received a Rare | Received a Rare |
    Person E| Received a Rare | Received a Rare | Received a Rare |
    Person F| Replaced by F2 | Received a Rare | Received a Rare |

    Since everyone received a rare in Round 3, Round 4 starts now. Person E gets 1 more rare and the run ends.

    Person A starts making up some bs about SET IN ORDER IS BROKEN WAH WAH WAH I GOT SKIPPED. Infact he was never skipped, that [B] Moon Atomizer X was his rare during round 2. Its the party and his fault for not picking up the rare [B] Moon Atomizer X. Rares when dropped, are automatically DESTINED for someone in the party who hasn't received a rare yet in the current set in order round.

    Set in order is great for missions where crappy rares are uncommon to seldom like Mizuraki Conservation District Defense S where the chance for everyone to get a decent rare is higher compared to Set Random. Set Random can be really screwed up when a small group of people keep getting all the rares and you possibly end up with nothing.

    So when someone says not to pick up crappy rares in a party, he/she obviously don't understand how set in order works. And when next time someone starts making bs about set in order being broken, direct him/her to this post and tell them to stfu.

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    wow
    good job how long did this take you to research?

    makes sense ive skiped countless moon atomizer x's and didnt get a rae in said run even though 8 rares droped...

    <font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Ronin1of47 on 2007-01-06 22:38 ]</font>

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    So rares left on the ground aka crap rares still affect the order? That would explain quite a lot.

    This is certainly the first time I'm hearing this info. Can anyone else confirm this?

    "Say, I must be crazy walking out in these woods alone at night with a horrible mutilation practically around the corner." - Ranger Brad

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    Awesome, yet depressing when that [B] Moon Atomizer X is destined to be yours...

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    Sounds right imo. Everyone always seems to cry when they dont get a rare in set order, but they dont ever notice that the rare that they passed was assigned towards them.

    Have you tried this? find a rare item while doing the round, then a moon board drops ( during which, you know who it is going to.) You pass right by it, and grab another item but turns out it has skipped a person.

    If you were to go back and pick up that board, will it go to the person that's skipped?~

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    Don't question the judgment of the God of Rares!!! He doesn't look kindly upon unbelievers...

    "Say, I must be crazy walking out in these woods alone at night with a horrible mutilation practically around the corner." - Ranger Brad

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    hmm, then that means it works the same for regular set in order, skipped items are set to be given to someone

    THE JACKEL

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    On 2007-01-06 22:40, Dj_SkyEpic wrote:


    If you were to go back and pick up that board, will it go to the person that's skipped?~
    Yes it will go to that skipped person because the rare is DESTINED to be his/hers.

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    This is very enlightening. Too bad the general populace is convinced otherwise, and people will continue to be berated for picking up Moon Atomizer X's (even though they're in GREEN boxes, what the hell is up with that?)

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    On 2007-01-06 22:43, Sekani wrote:
    (even though they're in GREEN boxes, what the hell is up with that?)
    Once you get to higher levels on your character, they would appear in Blue boxes. It only looks rare when you are low-leveled.

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