What is the maker cost of a 9* +10?

[darkante]

Is it really worth to get A ranked weapons to 10 + ?

Seems just like waste of money. O.o

[Isabella]

its worth it if you have the time/money to spend on it. And if its the best weapon of that kind so far.
Cubo mamba for example.

[Shishi-O]

On 2007-07-19 13:42, Nanoframe wrote:
Around how much does it cost to make a +10 9*
weapon? counting NPC boards kubara wood +10 grinders
lets say a 9* and an 8* kubara version
whats the cost to make one of those?

succuss rate % for synthing goes up if you use neutral photons.

the amount of grinds possible goes up the less photon percentage you have( ask anyone who has tried to grind a 50%,...it will never happen), and neutral photons give max grind %

the luckiest have ground a 10% to +10( maybe)

with a 9* A-rank +10 grind you will be about the level of a S-rank 11*



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[panzer_unit]

On 2007-07-20 05:45, Shishi-O wrote:
the amount of grinds possible goes up the less photon percentage you have( ask anyone who has tried to grind a 50%,...it will never happen), and neutral photons give max grind %

Untrue. Non-ele weapons break every bit as often as elemental. The odds don't just don't allow for getting any one weapon to a high grind level... and the chances of getting a good element on synthesis (for me at least) tend to put 20%+ weapons in the "any one weapon" category.

For A-rank weapons, I don't risk going beyond very high chances on a good element... and beyond high chances for anything with element at all... unless I've got an equally strong item as backup.

[Niloklives]

On 2007-07-20 01:11, darkante wrote:
Is it really worth to get A ranked weapons to 10 + ?

Seems just like waste of money. O.o

really just depends on the weapon. some of them get an additional 400 PP and 100 atp. it may not be worth breaking so many, but if you figure the added damage, with the axtra mileage you get out of each full charge of the weapon, it's extremely useful.

if you're the kind of person, however that would rather spend 90k on a 7* than (attempt to) synth a 9* or buy one for 350k from a player shop, don't bother grinding. this is not your kind of investment.

[panzer_unit]

I mainly use the grind desk for obsolete or low-spec gear, where there's no worries if it breaks... and there's a chance it'll improve enough to go back into the equipment rotation again. Better than pawning off 7* or low-element equipment at such a bargain price that somebody will pick it up.

[Deus-Irae]

i dont know what all the discussion is about. the questions is impossible to answer. i doubt there is even any way to get a real average. there are too many variables involved.

the obstacles to overcome would be:

-succeeding the synth (Kubara or not)
it possible to fail every synth on the board or successfully synth them all.

-getting the grinders needed (not easy unless you buy them from a player shop)

-grinding the weps to +10
a weapon can break going from 2-3, or from 9-10 (and anywhere in between).

during the 3 luck week i ground 3 seperata A rank weps to +10 in two tries a piece. but ive also broken over 20 Muktrands trying to get to +10.


it all depends on how lucky you get.

[Shishi-O]

On 2007-07-20 06:08, panzer_unit wrote:

On 2007-07-20 05:45, Shishi-O wrote:
the amount of grinds possible goes up the less photon percentage you have( ask anyone who has tried to grind a 50%,...it will never happen), and neutral photons give max grind %

Untrue. Non-ele weapons break every bit as often as elemental. The odds don't just don't allow for getting any one weapon to a high grind level... and the chances of getting a good element on synthesis (for me at least) tend to put 20%+ weapons in the "any one weapon" category.

For A-rank weapons, I don't risk going beyond very high chances on a good element... and beyond high chances for anything with element at all... unless I've got an equally strong item as backup.

the fact that you have in no way proved what you....have not proven me wrong.

[Shishi-O]

i never grind w/o 3* luck

[panzer_unit]

Maybe I screwed up my point.

Comparing grinding non-elemental and elemental weapons, they do about the same on average for grinding before breaking. You can mass-produce green ones cheaper and more reliably, and there's no reason NOT to grind them all as hard as possible like with elemental ones... but their actual chance of surviving on the grind desk isn't any better.