What will beat a 10/10 Spread Needle/G?

[CHA0TIX]

Is there anything coming out that will be rarer?

Is there anything coming out that will be stronger?

I'm wondering if those with 10/10 Spread Needle/G's will one day be tossing them aside for somthing better.

What do you guys think? It this a good as it gets, or this there something else over the hill that's about to make these beauties look 2nd best.

[Alastor_Haven]

One: It is NOT the strongest gun

Two: A Shigga barec 10/10 Destroys it

Three: Highest variance of a shotgun

Four: A Shotguns ATP Doesn't mean shit but a small amount of damage

Calculations - >

I shall shed some light

Most gunners know ATP of a shotgun doesn't really make much of a difference
If you don't well go try it your self

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Caculations

I did some test

This test was done on Hive S2 Dark Satellite Pannons -

Bullet level is capped - Level 40 Light Shotgun bullet

Desta 4/10 - ATT: 125
Spread needle 10/10 - ATT: 235

Spread needles damage on pannons were about 700s to 715s
Desta's damage was about 670s to 680s

Spread needle has VARIANCE, and the highest

That gun is overrated

But I like the PP on mine so meh

In reality

Shiga barec 10/10

Wins

Wish I had orius here to caculate it as he has a 10/10

Oh well

[Syl]

I believe it's also been proven on the JP side why a Shigga Pakudac was better. I remember reading a reaaaally long and detailed thread about it on the official forums from someone who tested all of the shotguns and their ATP variances.

[CHA0TIX]

...blah...blah...blah...

Good thing I've got a Barec 10/10 too then...

[Alastor_Haven]

Alright

Then compare to me

I have a 10/10 Spread

And I guarantee you

Barec is stronger by far

[CHA0TIX]

so do i...

Both on my pallet at the same time.

Example, lvl 40 ice bullets yesterday, on that new run with the fire axe guys.

I was hitting less when switching to my Barec than with my spread.

(I switch to the Barec becasuse I think it looks cooler!)

[Syl]

so do i...

Both on my pallet at the same time.

Example, lvl 40 ice bullets yesterday, on that new run with the fire axe guys.

I was hitting less when switching to my Barec than with my spread.

(I switch to the Barec becasuse I think it looks cooler!)

I dunno, considering it might be best to test with both 10/10 guns on a non-resistant mob with many many shots and not just like 10. Multiple mob types/bullets etc. Screenies and whatnot too.

[CHA0TIX]

I dunno, considering it might be best to test with both 10/10 guns on a non-resistant mob with many many shots and not just like 10. Multiple mob types/bullets etc. Screenies and whatnot too.

Good idea. I will test tonight on a few runs. But I can't take screengrabs on my 360.

Hope I am wrong to be honest, i would love to do more dammage with the barec than the SN/G.

[Yunfa]

Have to agree wtih Haven on this one, my friend blew of his entire savings for a 8/8 Spread Needle, yet it only does about 30~ more damage compared to his 10/10 Desta. And the only reason he started wanting a Spead Needle was some kid made fun of him for not having it, but upon checking the kid has Shotgun bullets in the 10s, while his was all 40s.

To me bullet lvls > the extra stacks he spent on the extra now known to us as only 30 damage more, o well, at least he has gloating powers.

[amtalx]

I'm willing to hear any arguments about how awesome a Barec is...but all Alastor proved is that a 10/10 SNG does more damage than a 4/10 Baret. You also have to take 0s into account. When comparing weapons.