If you need help building a computer or advice on parts.

[Caeruleus]

No problem. That's what this thread is for.

This is a fairly impossible task to get EXACTLY right. I will have to overshoot a little bit to guarantee it will run.

Please post and ask again tomorrow if I do not have this up. It is getting late here in MN and I will have to do this tomorrow.

I too would love to get an answer for this. Right now I'm sitting on $400 dollars from selling Magic the Gathering cards donated from my cousin and plan on saving as long as I can, but I am only going to use this computer for Phantasy Star and free MMOs, so I don't really need something that can levitate. I'm only in need of something that can handle PSO2 as it's most demanding game. Much appreciated if you do post this.

[Strider_M]

@Nuclearranger

You told me how to install a CPU (thanks for that) but before that you told me that I probably won't need more than a dual core.

But about that Video Card I am planning to get (GeForce GTS 250) IF I do get that will I need a better Power source too? and if so how many Watts?

[r00tabaga]

its not that, just feel this could be consolidated into one topic

I think that if Nuke was to add to your thread, you would have felt he WAS stepping on your toes. I think that for many of us console guys it's good to seperate the two as one is more for building and the other is more for specs.

[Nuclearranger]

* SHUTTLE SX58J3 Black Mini PC Barebone, LGA1366, Intel X58, DDR3-1600 (O.C.) 16GB /4, PCIe x16 SLI CF /2, SATA 3 Gb/s RAID /2, HDA, GbLAN /2, 500W PSU
* INTEL Core™ i7-970 Six-Core, 3.2GHz, LGA1366, 4.8 GT/s QPI, 12MB L3 Cache, HT EM64T EIST TB VT XD, 32nm, 130W, Retail
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* SEAGATE 1TB Constellation™ ES, SATA 6 Gb/s, 7200 RPM, 64MB cache
* RAID No RAID, Independent HDD Drives
* ASUS DVD-E818A7T Black 16x DVD-ROM Drive, SATA, OEM
* SONY AD-7261S Black 24x DVD±R/RW Dual-Layer Burner w/ Lightscribe, SATA, OEM
* MICROSOFT Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 Wired Optical Mouse, 5 Buttons + 1 Wheel, USB + PS/2, Black
* MICROSOFT Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Edition w/ SP1, OEM
* WARRANTY Assembled and Tested (1 Year Parts, Lifetime Labor Warranty) Hey are these spec's good for long term?? You said something about not getting mini computers but does this one look ok?

I would definitely say it will run PSO2 and probably Crysis on max. You may be doing overkill or not investing correctly in certain area's however.

Take your harddrives for example. Might as well at least get a RAID 5 setup for that price range.

The CPU could probably just be any I7 quad or 6 core. Gaming more than often only uses 1 core. Keep this in mind. Your GHZ rating on the cpu effects most games more than the core count!

The core count will still help however. Windows divides tasks up evenly between cores. So the gaming core will be free to do more while the others are handling simple tasks like....music ect. I would say peg the CPU down one and go with a nice sound card. Or add a sound card if you can afford it.

I would say whenever I build TOP-END systems they rarely cost more than 1200-1400 in parts.

[Nuclearranger]

Yeah it's more then ready for PSO2,I was wondering if it was good for gaming all together,because it's upgradable.(I just dont want to get screwed over.)http://www.avadirect.com/mini-pc-con...asp?PRID=18182 2100$ is my budget.

On the MINI PC subject.

The only reason I say avoid is space. However most mid and full towers are the same as other mid and full towers. MOST mini towers are completely different than other MINI towers. It is just hard to get it right.

It isn't like a mini tower will hurt you other than space. Make sure you keep sufficient airflow to the box, gaming can cause quite a heat wave inside that box!

[Nuclearranger]

@Nuclearranger

You told me how to install a CPU (thanks for that) but before that you told me that I probably won't need more than a dual core.

But about that Video Card I am planning to get (GeForce GTS 250) IF I do get that will I need a better Power source too? and if so how many Watts?

I figured I should explain the step by step anyway for someone wondering!

According to this website http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,6...-test/Reviews/

That card can use up to 150 WATTs of power alone. This is a really vague part of building a PC. You have to ask yourself what the rest of your PC uses. (you can also see how that card performs on their test machine)

If you have 4+ harddrives I would say go with a 700W+ PSU
If you only have 1-2 drives and that same dual core cpu. 530->600W should be enough.
Here are a couple.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817152028
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817339036
It is always nice to go over a bit on PSUs so if you have the extra 10. Go with the 2nd choice here. It is also Modular which is nice (You can get rid of useless cables if needed)

Obviously I dont know what you own currently.

[Ark22]

I hate to ask...But could you gather info on the cheapest build? So I can save up on. I honestly want a PC JUST for this game. No future games. =D Just reposting just like you asked SIR YESH SIR D=<

[Nuclearranger]

I hate to ask...But could you gather info on the cheapest build? So I can save up on. I honestly want a PC JUST for this game. No future games. =D Just reposting just like you asked SIR YESH SIR D=<

Your wish is my command.

Total Cost: $577.92

$19.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827106289 CD DVD Drive
$19.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811233061 CASE MID TOWER
$39.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136769 HDD 500GB
$154.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814131374 GPU 4850 6850
$39.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817152028 PSU 530W
$27.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820134718 RAM 2X2GB 1066
$64.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157190 MOBO 1156
$209.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115067 CPU I5 2.8GHZ

Notes.
1. This is probably not the absolute 100% cheapest system to run PSO-2 However I wanted to overshoot a bit to make sure you would definitely run it. If you wanted it cheaper than this we could lower the mobo and the CPU back to the PRE I5/7 days models. This MIGHT shave $100 if we are lucky

2. The 6850 Graphics card in this system is really nice. http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon...6870-review/16 AMD is on their A-Game when it comes to price vs performance!

3. If anyone finds that I missed anything in this build PLEASE tell me.

4. You could play with this system a bit to customize it. Change your case, add a harddrive, ect. I wouldn't change the MOBO/CPU/RAM unless you know what you are doing.

[Ark22]

Riddle me this? Can it give out a good quality of gameplay?

[Nuclearranger]

Riddle me this? Can it give out a good quality of gameplay?

That PC will absolutely play many games at the mid-high to high range in settings.

Note you will need your own Keyboard, mouse and monitor.