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    Default ITT We cry about PA nerfs

    Assault Crush (Lv40):

    Part 1 went from 305% to 235%.
    Part 2 seems untouched
    Part 3 seems to be close to Part 1, either 240% or 245%. Was originally 325%.

    Tornado Break (Lv40):

    Part 1 went from 280% to 260%
    Part 2 looks like 240% or so, down from 290%
    Part 3 seems untouched, strangely, or maybe dropped from 380% to 370%, either way it's barely noticeable.

    I focus on GT and AT so I don't have any of the other affected PAs.

    Conclusion: Business as usual for FMs. Everyone else gogo Twin Claws.
    Last edited by Selphea; Nov 10, 2011 at 03:16 AM.

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    Wow AC got lowered so much that sucks.
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    Ac is now 20% weaker than it is on xbox 360.... onward to twin claws.
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    Haha I was just going to say wasn't the 360 AC stronger. Umm what 2 twin claws got PA increase? I never used Twinclaws so I have no idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeathDragon2332 View Post
    Haha I was just going to say wasn't the 360 AC stronger. Umm what 2 twin claws got PA increase? I never used Twinclaws so I have no idea.
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    Ahh oki doki Ty sir.
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    Ass Crush is just any old PA now. Average damage over two targets.

    Renzan's 3 target buff is ridiculous. Not only do they increase the targets, they increase the power. This was the problem with Ass Crush. The first part of Renzan was already really good; good enough to be usable on its own on Xbox since day 1. The only way it and Bogga Robado could ever hope to keep up with AC was an extra target on part 1, and... well, Renzan got it.

    Aside: this is one of the few buffs that (albeit indirectly, by influencing weapon selection) affects female characters slightly more than males. I know nobody uses regular attacks nowadays, but the 1-2-3 female claw combo beat the 1-1-3 of the males anyday XD

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    Ass Crush's nerf is really being blown out of proportion. It seems to be killing mobs in the same amount of combos as it used to (at least on AF). Its just less reliable now if you hit too many zeros. I think it was a fair nerf.

    Xbox's Ass Crush is still weak because of its hit restrictions and their lackluster selection of twin sabers.

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    I use normal attacks when I know I'm going to block an attack before my PA hits anything =p

    Also, the 360 AC is 255%/215%/195% at level 40 according to PSUpedia, and the new JP AC is 235%/270%/240%. It's actually slightly better DPS-wise =p

    The trouble is, if it was simply an AC nerf, AC would still be worth using. But it was a nerf while buffing something else way out of proportion (i.e. Hadoken Claw). So it's kind of like Coke raising their price by 20% while Pepsi drops their price by 40%. Sure, the 20% price increase isn't much by itself, but wouldn't it be better to just buy 2 Pepsis? Especially since Renzan and Sougacho are both exempt from AC's main weakness of having to wait for the 3rd part to put out most of its damage. Imagine those with EVP build AFs or WTs =x!
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    Problem with Ass Crush balancing is the second target. It was pretty much the holy grail of DPS even before the initial buff, and it's still ridiculous.

    Renzan's first part was a DPS wet dream too. And now it's omnicidal. Loving it!

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