Gunner Stuff Discussion ™

[Saffran]

I see. Yeah, it's probably just me being rusty.

[cheapgunner]

Are the Tokyo 13* TMGs and rifle better than a 13* skull rifle and gal's 13* tmgs with their pot? I have mine lv 3 pot, 10+ with affixes and 60 ele for each, but wondered if the new weps have an edge on what I already have.

[schnee4]

Like others have said, Knight Gear's just an asshole.
Gu/Hu ... Gryph or Tokyo TMG ...

hehehe their outcome not changing.. both useless in the case of Gu/Hu

[Selphea]

Are the Tokyo 13* TMGs and rifle better than a 13* skull rifle and gal's 13* tmgs with their pot? I have mine lv 3 pot, 10+ with affixes and 60 ele for each, but wondered if the new weps have an edge on what I already have.

Gal TMG might end up better than even Austere with R/Crit Strike coming with the gathering update.

There's no Tokyo rifle.

[cheapgunner]

Gal TMG might end up better than even Austere with R/Crit Strike coming with the gathering update.

There's no Tokyo rifle.

I see. Thanks. The rings kinda slipped my mind. ._. R/Crit Strike does sound like it might make crits even more important for Gunners.

[final_attack]

Well, assuming CritStrikeRing is the same as Fi's one .... 15% Damage and 15% CritChance ....
Gal (ZRA pot) is indeed higher than Austere in term of average damage.

Austere : 5% base + 50% ZRC + 15% Ring = 70%
Gal : 5% base + 50% ZRC + 25% pot + 15% Ring = 95%


But once ShiftaCritical buff kicks in (you can maintain the buff yourself with Shifta-enabled weapons (rod, I think) or just use JB with StrikeGust built-in on it) ...... +20% from previous ....



Even if it's not 100%, imo, 70% without ShiftaCritical buff is high enough to make critical appear quite often.

[Youmu Konpaku]

how about Tokyo TMG? isn't that it will have higher average damage too? it seems the 10% crit damage will appear more often too ..

and is that mean a Gu/Hu can get 100% crit with rings? (like using gal tmg?)

[final_attack]

Okay, added Walkure (Tokyo TMG) to the comparison.
Please do note that Walkure must hit weak-spot for the potential to kick in (including the +10% critical damage, must be on weak-spot). On non-weak spot, it'll be +0% damage increase even if it crits.

Without ShiftaCritical



With ShiftaCritical



Edit : Added Orbit (Pot1).
Note : Don't forget that Orbit also adds PP regen ...... can be better on prolonged fight due to more PP recovered.

[schnee4]

hehehe orbit TMG or useless
is you choice! maybe stay you griffon TMG is ok!

[hoangsea]

anyone try Gu/Fi with strike convert PAs ?
i just want to talk about r-atk type, not just chain and do BHS or smt like that.

Don't know Gu/Fi or Gu/Hu have better dps now after Fi got Tech Arts JA Bonus & Tech Arts JA PP Save
and next week our Gu can use critical dmg/ critical rate ring which is pretty nice for HU and Fi sub