Wand lovers buff: enough?

[UnLucky]

Or they could add an 11* Talis with a PP cost reduction latent that any race and class can equip without a mag.

[gigawuts]

Or they could add an 11* Talis with a PP cost reduction latent that any race and class can equip without a mag.

i genuinely find this more likely than sega changing its ways and making the pwand attainable for your average joe

[Link1275]

i genuinely find this more likely than sega changing its ways and making the pwand attainable for your average joe

They already did add that type of Talis, only it can only be equipped by FO and TE. In fact if you are doing the mining base defense quest on SH you can maybe get it, but then again:

Premicheros: 934 T-Atk
PWand: 1162 T-Atk(and some 874 odd S-Atk).

[jooozek]

They already did add that type of Talis, only it can only be equipped by FO and TE. In fact if you are doing the mining base defense quest on SH you can maybe get it, but then again:

Premicheros: 934 T-Atk
PWand: 1162 T-Atk(and some 874 odd S-Atk).

there is a talis force skill that gives 20% to casts from a talis for a total of 5 SP

[Link1275]

there is a talis force skill that gives 20% to casts from a talis for a total of 5 SP

That's only 1120.

934*1.2=1120.8

[UnLucky]

400 Dex req for a Talis with the highest stats in the game, with the best utility latent.

And it doesn't even matter that it's 11*, you don't need to 50 element tech weapons!

That's only 1120.

934*1.2=1120.8

Uh, it's 120% total damage.

So it's more like it had 1,334

[Link1275]

400 Dex req for a Talis with the highest stats in the game, with the best utility latent.

And it doesn't even matter that it's 11*, you don't need to 50 element tech weapons!


Uh, it's 120% total damage.

So it's more like it had 1,334

Uh... I calculated using the only bonuses that applies to talises that doesn't apply to Rods, ergo the weapon has 934 T-Atk damage(sans affixes) multiplied that by the Talis boost multiplier(120% is the same as 1.2).

934*1.2=1120.8

[UnLucky]

And that's why you're wrong, since a "talis exclusive" skill still applies to your total T-Atk. Or rather, your end damage with techs.

Assume 800 Base T-Atk, and 300 T-Atk from affixes+set bonus.

Total with PWand: 2,262
Total with Premicheros: 2,034

Using this skilltree, the only difference between the two weapons would be 120% in favor of a talis.

Against a target with 0 T-Def, it's essentially like having 2,441 total T-Atk with the talis.

[gigawuts]

Uh... I calculated using the only bonuses that applies to talises that doesn't apply to Rods, ergo the weapon has 934 T-Atk damage(sans affixes) multiplied that by the Talis boost multiplier(120% is the same as 1.2).

934*1.2=1120.8

wow the dunner kruger effect is strong with this one

how does the damage formula work?

and yes, I knew about the not-allclass weapon with the PP save latent, which is why I said what I did

[Link1275]

And that's why you're wrong, since a "talis exclusive" skill still applies to your total T-Atk. Or rather, your end damage with techs.

Assume 800 Base T-Atk, and 300 T-Atk from affixes+set bonus.

Total with PWand: 2,262
Total with Premicheros: 2,034

Using this skilltree, the only difference between the two weapons would be 120% in favor of a talis.

Against a target with 0 T-Def, it's essentially like having 2,441 total T-Atk with the talis.

Except that no matter what the stats are of you or your target the only variable is the weapon. You can only get the talis to be more powerful if you have enough T-Atk to get that 20% bonus to overcome the PWand's T-Atk with your base T-Atk.

Though really. This is all theoretical and completely pointless as the amount of people who have PWand would probably never even consider trading it in for a ANYTHING unless it became so outclassed that you were talking about a weapon that essentially made it 100% useless(something that has like 500 more T-Atk or 1000 more).

wow the dunner kruger effect is strong with this one

how does the damage formula work?

and yes, I knew about the not-allclass weapon with the PP save latent, which is why I said what I did

*gives virtual taser for insulting intelligence*