PSO2es Discussion Thread

[diamondx]

Does both of these followings e-frame chips stack together in damage or does it just take what has a higher percent in damage:
1.http://pso2es.swiki.jp/index.php?%E3...83%B3%EF%BC%BD

2.http://pso2es.swiki.jp/index.php?H44...3%BC%E3%83%AAT
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[Jene-chan]

Does both of these followings e-frame chips stack together in damage or does it just take what has a higher percent in damage:
1.http://pso2es.swiki.jp/index.php?%E3...83%B3%EF%BC%BD

2.http://pso2es.swiki.jp/index.php?H44...3%BC%E3%83%AAT
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All damage within the same frame stacks together but it's additive instead of multiplicative. So Annette and Missouri with be 160% (170% SP) + 180%(200% SP).

[diamondx]

what is a good multiplicative chips, please list them, if you dont mind?

[Jene-chan]

The way the damage formula works is that everything within the same frame is additive but different frames are multiplied against each other. So it basically works like this:

A*B*C*D*E (reference: http://pso2es.swiki.jp/index.php?%E3...83%97#ycee76bc)

Where each frame's default value is 1 + chip buffs. So If you had Annette and Missouri as stated above, the formula would be:

1*1*1*1*( 1 + 1.6 + 1.8 ) = 4.4

The frames have the following general categories:

A frame - generally from weapon intensify chips (http://pso2es.swiki.jp/index.php?%E6%BF%80%E5%8C%96). Adds usually 60%/70% A frame damage and a passive HP recovery.
B frame - from chips that have effects that do damage when fighting specific types of enemies (e.g. natives, machines, darkers) - Christmas Annette is a good example.
C frame - from chips that do extra damage when an enemy is suffering from a status (e.g. Yamigarasu).
D frame - from chips that have effects that do damage when fighting an enemy with a specific weak element (e.g. Strike Brute)
E frame - every other type of damage comes from the E frame. This is the most common damage frame.

There is other stuff too but short of it is that when some of the B/C/D chips are revived, you can hunt for those cuz they generally can double or triple your damage towards their specific types.

There is also chase/additional damage (追撃) which is sorta special as it deals a percentage of the final damage of your attack to the boss as additional damage. A bunch of chips have this as a side effect and you can get one which essentially does a little more than double the damage you deal to an enemy randomly from killing SH bosses during Emergency Quests -- Avenger.

The A frame weapon intensify chips are generally available in exchange shops (e.g. Annette's exchange shop currently) or as rewards from limited quests. They've been giving them out very liberally lately but they are specific to weapon. e.g. you can only use a TMG intensify chip if you're equipped with TMGs.

[Yden]

A frame - generally from weapon intensify chips (http://pso2es.swiki.jp/index.php?%E6%BF%80%E5%8C%96). Adds usually 60%/70% A frame damage and a passive HP recovery.

A frames specifically are effects that boost PA/Technic damage.

[SisterPrincess]

Is 11*グレンテッセン, 11*クラッカーバレット bad compare to 10*ファセットフォリア? I don't feel like wasting money on Katana and Launcher at the moment.

[Ryuuguu]

Is 11*グレンテッセン, 11*クラッカーバレット bad compare to 10*ファセットフォリア? I don't feel like wasting money on Katana and Launcher at the moment.

11* PAs aren't exactly better than 10* PAs in general. I don't know for sure but I don't believe anything is as good as FF.

[Zysets]

10* Facet Folia is great, it's pretty amazing and doesn't have the cost of 11*. 10* FF has been like, instant win at the push of a button, besides high difficulty EQ bosses, but it can get close.

[Atmius]

So next (non ranking) es eq boss is another round of org keratos. On one hand, finally an opportunity to put all these solid fire loadouts I have into play. On the other hand, fuck org keratos, he's bad enough with ER, he'll be even worse with FF. Probably going to aim for my 45-50 material zero and call it a week, because I absolutely hate keratos (and because daggers are out, and 3 new weapons are in).

[Jene-chan]

Yeah, Org is actually going to be a nightmare. lol

I sorta feel the same way. I'll mash where I can but I'm just gonna save my resources/stamina for the next ranker which hopefully will be the return of an older boss that we haven't seen in awhile? Transzexia was MIA for all of 2016, I think (he's probably not coming back, though). Been awhile since Nove Ringdarl and Agrani too.