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    Quote Originally Posted by rinsha View Post
    So Fi/Hu is the way to go if I want to main gunslash? (focusing on the melee aspect ofc)
    Any extra advice on PA's, skill trees, etc?
    If you wanna play with that (annoying and conditionnal) Limit Break thing ONLY. Otherwise, RAnger/BRaver is really good too but you'd better play ranged with things like Aiming Shot, Addition Bullet or Regenschlag. A friend of mine use THIS at 65/65.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terrence View Post
    If you wanna play with that (annoying and conditionnal) Limit Break thing ONLY. Otherwise, RAnger/BRaver is really good too but you'd better play ranged with things like Aiming Shot, Addition Bullet or Regenschlag. A friend of mine use THIS at 65/65.
    LB isn't conditional. You hit button->destroy.

    And Ra/Br (no Standing Snipe? ) is only as strong as Ra/Hu for charged Ranged PAs on weak points, but worse for everything else besides normal attacks. Don't touch it if you're not going to use bows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rinsha View Post
    So Fi/Hu is the way to go if I want to main gunslash? (focusing on the melee aspect ofc)
    Any extra advice on PA's, skill trees, etc?
    http://pso2-skill.pwnedgalaxy.net/sk...00fdoIb000000f

    This is what I use. I have one point in dsaber gear because I use meteor cudgel for some mobbing situations. You can get tech arts JA, but its use is kind of minimal. It's handy for the Serpent Air -> Slash Rave combo, but that's about it. Slash Rave -> Slash Rave -> Slash Rave does around the same or more DPS than Slash Rave -> Rage Dance/Ein Raketen/Tri Impact -> Slash Rave even with the Tech Arts bonus. Slash Rave -> Serpent Air -> Slash Rave might outperform it, but Slash Rave has very little vertical range, so you don't want to lose or gain height when spamming it.

    I've seen builds use s-atk up 3 instead of brave critical, but they give around the same damage bonus on average (assuming max critical strike), and brave crit also helps with your additional bullet mobbing.

    As for PAs, I recommend anything but Ein Raketen, Tri Impact, and Kleisenslach (assuming they still haven't fixed it...). Fury Dance is decent for small AoE mobbing and single target damage. Serpent Air does really good DPS and gives you air to reach weak points. Slash Rave is your best single target DPS. Regenslach is an excellent gap closer that does good damage on impact, and can even spread damage around if the impact kills. Additional Bullet is your best bet for mobbing lots of mid-low hp enemies with accessible weak points.

    Apparently there's an 11* GS with Slash Rave potential now. Interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megidolaon View Post
    I go HuBr. I hate Fi stances cause they break so very easily (including from some fi weapon PAs).
    Quote Originally Posted by Megidolaon View Post
    Br has the amazing J Reversal cover though. One hell of a live saver.
    git guud

    Quote Originally Posted by GALEFORCE View Post
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    This is what I use. I have one point in dsaber gear because I use meteor cudgel for some mobbing situations. You can get tech arts JA, but its use is kind of minimal. It's handy for the Serpent Air -> Slash Rave combo, but that's about it. Slash Rave -> Slash Rave -> Slash Rave does around the same or more DPS than Slash Rave -> Rage Dance/Ein Raketen/Tri Impact -> Slash Rave even with the Tech Arts bonus. Slash Rave -> Serpent Air -> Slash Rave might outperform it, but Slash Rave has very little vertical range, so you don't want to lose or gain height when spamming it.

    I've seen builds use s-atk up 3 instead of brave critical, but they give around the same damage bonus on average (assuming max critical strike), and brave crit also helps with your additional bullet mobbing.
    I tweaked that a bit to look like this . It would require you to git guud though, as there isn't really any good safety nets. I'm sure if the build is bullshit, Unlucky or Kon will tell me.

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    I'd never give up automate halfline for less than 5% more striking damage, but it's a legitimate choice. I disagree with getting rid of fury crit though.

    75 satk is about 3.75% (assuming ~2000 total s-atk) with diminishing returns when stacked with other satk ups (such as satk 3, deadline slayer, pp slayer, crazy beat).

    Critical Strike with no crit boosts: 1.15*0.20 + 1*0.80 => 3%
    Critical Strike with one crit skill maxed: 1.15*0.45 + 1*0.55 => 6.75% (3.75% difference)
    Critical Strike with both crit skills maxed: 1.15*0.70 + 1*0.30 => 10.5% (3.75% difference)

    So critical skills give the same boosts, but with no diminishing returns, a slight advantage due to no damage variation on crits, and they affect addbullet too. If you really want satk up 3, you could just remove some from 2 and boost fury crit up to 8. The striking ups are not worth taking over rare mastery and the rest of brave crit on the fighter tree.

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    Automate with Limit Break? Sure why not.

    I'd probably max LB and get TAJA instead of Brave Crit, though. Those are actual meaningful bonuses.

    More Atk raises your minimum damage, so you'll always see the benefit on every attack instead of hopefully averaging out over time. It does get proportionally worse with all the static gains available to Fighter, but accounting for mob defense and the lower stats on a gunslash compared to other weapons, 75-100 Atk is still significant.

    Crit Strike is worth the 5SP, though, so raising crit rate to 70%+ to take advantage of that isn't a bad idea if the only trade off is some S-Atk.
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    Let's not be dense about LB. It's not going to be active 100% of the time. If you're not making niconico videos or speedruns, you're going to reserve it for situations where you're relatively safe to make use of the bonuses. If you're just rolling around in any common MPA or fighting an aggressive boss, automate is still helpful to reduce your downtime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maenara View Post
    Here's a video of a FI/HU demonstrating its ability for melee gunslash.


    www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4JM4MfPYQo

    In the video, they're using a crafted(Presumably) Sonic Laser(10* gunslash), which has Last Stand potential, which boosts all damage by 14% below 25% HP, which Fighter's Limit Break triggers.
    I love gunslashes the most and use them all the time, I've tried diff mixes of skill trees but that vid makes me drop my jaw, I wonder what is his/her build?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumpen Thingy View Post
    hu/br sucks balls vs fi/hu if hes going to MAIN the gunslash =_=
    I said I use it, I didn't he say should use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by So-san View Post
    I love gunslashes the most and use them all the time, I've tried diff mixes of skill trees but that vid makes me drop my jaw, I wonder what is his/her build?
    They're using a Sonic Laser, which has a potential that gives +14% damage while you're under 25% HP, which Limit Breaker does, and it's crafted to offset its low stats. Given this, their build would involve Critical Strike, and Brave/Wise Critical to help offset variance.
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    this is an absolutely disgusting post

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