How to Dark Falz Elder+Loser (XH Loser = Arm -> Shoulder -> WAIT -> Arm -> Shoulder)

[milranduil]

how to actually do profound . 3. b

Spoiler!

[electrolytes]

Thank you for this guide. If I could add anything, it'd be a screenshot with labels showing where the chin core, beak, and so forth are, since Loser's anatomy makes very little sense to me and it took me a while to be certain of what you were talking about.

I have a couple questions. First, I'm confused at exactly how the beak is supposed to handled. I often see people go for it after the second shoulder break, but also feel like HP should be conserved for mirage instead of breaking it then perhaps?

Second, do any symbol arts exist showing the proper break order (and "no hit" on the chin core) for Loser? I keep checking my Symbol Art Manager hoping that one will show up from my history, but I still don't have anything. It's kind of a let down seeing Elder, Magatsu, and several EQ farm paths in there in multiple forms, but no Loser.

[TaigaUC]

You're right, I should add screenshots. I will if I get around to it.

Loser teleports upon reaching damage threshold.
I've never seen him hang around after having both shoulders break.
So I think the damage required for the arms -> shoulders is enough to pass the teleport threshold.
With that in mind, it probably doesn't matter whether you deal extra damage after the shoulders or not.

I personally like to keep the beak weakened but not broken.
If he happens to get out of control., the beak can be broken to pull him down.
If the shoulders aren't broken yet and his forearms are broken before he recovered from broken beak, he will open the shoulder after.
But that won't happen if he happens to pass a threshold and teleports away again.
If a group does Loser properly, he'll die so fast that attacking the beak or not won't matter.

I don't think I've seen any Symbol Arts for Loser.
There's a JP site with most Symbol Arts, if you want to look through it for fun:
http://wikiwiki.jp/pso2sa/
Click through the sections labelled 展覧室#(tn#)


Edit: Adding this image to the main page.

[milranduil]

In case people are interested in trying to kill luther before he teleports, but without BrGu mirage strats, if your MPA is strong enough, you can actually kill Luther on his chin core after second shoulder break (at least in Prof. Inv.). He only teleports once the chin core stops becoming exposed when having taken enough damage, but can be killed before it's no longer exposed.

[TaigaUC]

Don't think I've ever seen that.
The fastest I've seen is he teleported, but came back miraged and died.

[Flaoc]

Don't think I've ever seen that.
The fastest I've seen is he teleported, but came back miraged and died.

not the best example of a neck kill but it should do

[Charmeleon]

Two RaGus doing 100 chain EA should also be enough to kill before teleport, no bows needed. Still need mirage or arm break though. And head WB of course.

[HentaiLolicon]

Recently, some fuckers put zan auto-attack to mag and messed shit up 'cause they were close to loser and their mag miraged him before 2nd arm break ~_~

[TaigaUC]

Didn't know that was an issue. Will add it to the guide later.

[AmanoMai]

why can't we break the chin core in XH loser?

the guide says don't do it but never mentioned why