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    Quote Originally Posted by final_attack View Post
    Also ..... doesn't this made Red / Blue JB over-power Kuna's JB? o-o
    Take into account that Zirenheit has roughly 50 ATK over max crafted weapons on both sides, so I think if Zirenheit isn't still better they're basically dead even.

    But as a result, people will see Red/Blue JBs as better because they're 7*s so less pricey overall to grind them. So...I guess in terms of setting them up and actually acquiring them, yeah they might be better options.

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    Did some rough calculation ....

    Crafted Red / Blue JB = 951/974
    +10% Craft Mastery = 1046.1/1071.4 (Potential +16% damage)

    Zirenheit = 1006/1030
    +30 Rare Mastery = 1036/1060 (Potential +15% damage)

    Ah, yes, Zirenheit should be higher, I think .... if someone cap T-AtkUp1 instead of CraftMastery?
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    So I tried to see if blue weapons have the same latent. They don't have one at all as far as I can tell. >_>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kondibon View Post
    So I tried to see if blue weapons have the same latent. They don't have one at all as far as I can tell. >_>
    Oh, I thought they have one ..... since the price is ..... 500k for DB, last I checked O_O
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    Quote Originally Posted by LonelyGaruga View Post
    Red potential appears to be 14%/15%/16%.
    Is that 16% damage or 16% weapon ATK (like the Zieg weapons)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyrusticae View Post
    But how's it work? Just a flat percentage increase in attack power if the weapon is extended at all?
    Yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kondibon View Post
    So I tried to see if blue weapons have the same latent. They don't have one at all as far as I can tell. >_>
    They don't. If people checked potential names they would see that the potential for Red weapons is 再輝の赤. Red Sword's name is 赤のソード. 赤 means red.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rayden View Post
    Is that 16% damage or 16% weapon ATK (like the Zieg weapons)?
    Uhh, they're both a damage increase.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lostbob117 View Post
    Summoner monster in area to do attack then monster disappears. Probably would work like Whatshisface that summons Vol Dragon.

    Though I don't know if this is old data or not, let's consider the possibility that this accidentally got put in, but is ACTUALLY old data they played with. So I hope everyone doesn't get their hopes up about it.
    Wrong thread bro. And the data was just added anyway in the EP4 folder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LonelyGaruga View Post
    Uhh, they're both a damage increase.
    That doesn't answer the question, though.

    Does it raise the weapon's damage (i.e. weapon damage x 1.16) or the total damage of the final attack (i.e. final hit damage x 1.16)? Where in the equation does it fit?

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    Those are synonymous. The only difference is whether it's an ATK increase (+) or a damage increase (*). All multiplicative damage modifiers are handled in the final step in damage calculation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LonelyGaruga View Post

    Wrong thread bro. And the data was just added anyway in the EP4 folder.
    I feel retarded that I posted in the wrong thread, gg

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    Quote Originally Posted by LonelyGaruga View Post
    Those are synonymous. The only difference is whether it's an ATK increase (+) or a damage increase (*). All multiplicative damage modifiers are handled in the final step in damage calculation.
    Okay, that's more like it. So there's nothing besides element damage that only affects the weapon damage (and nothing else), then?

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