Ultimate Amaduscia Info & Discussion Thread

[seilent]

Quite dumbfounded because for the first time TE smack is strong enough that it caused anga to resist
today's anga seems love to do 3 resist at once, happened few times in our run

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[THRINE4]

This will serve as my class-based sarcastic motivation/demotivation thank you post... (not aimed at you!)
(oh this makes fun of me too)

Hunters

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Thank you so much for all of those overends coming from Dragonslayers. My favorite part was when you forgot you triggered warcry and ran to the opposite side of the map instead of taking it like a man (or woman) and actually just taking it to the face... Remember the Iron Will + Never Give up that saves you endlessly. Thank you for luring the enemies and bosses to the wrong side of the map.

A little late to the party, while not sure whether the Hunters you run around with are just outright bad or I misinterpreted your sarcasm, to be honest, if the Hunters know what they are doing, (assuming opposite side of the map = corner) running to a well-positioned corner instead of prolonging the fight in the middle of the area are sometimes better so the MPA in general (mainly non-Massive Hunter classes) don't have to deal with the lasers (unless people actually bother to destroy some of them). Random flinches are rather annoying sometimes for some classes.

[ohpz]

im sorta loss for words, how is being a free player stopping you from getting these units or weapons? i can understand throwing away AQ stones but keeping only Ares (lol why) is just confusing. You essentially had an austere weapon right there, unit wise, wait till the raid next month

Gix is pretty meh the only useful ones honestly are the ones that require no hit and even then, it takes 25 seconds to reach Austere damage and beyond etc these weapons are good to tie you over and get people geared but definitely not something to main. Austere is still the preferable choice atm

I fully grinded and max attributed an Austere weapon in 3-4 months as a Free player, just did every Falz EQ with a RDR, and did a few stages of XQ a week until I finished stage 70 for each. What does being a free player have to do with anything? Austere Units are still pretty good too, I feel like you just shot yourself in the foot.



As much as I love using TDs, I don't use them unless there's something worth using them on when playing on a MPA, no worries.

It was basically because after 2 months of running 80% of the PD EQs, I hadn't seen a single Invade unit drop. Since I can't buy them without passes I'll just stick with Saiki (got lucky with bonus quests) and wait for better 12* units. Then, I only run daily orders and tacos on two of my characters since I can't really stand the 3rd (gu/ra - I'll probably repurpose this one later. They kind of overnerfed Gu imo). Throwing down 13~ million on an old type to +40 it just doesn't seem worth it to me when I can damn near make a rainbow set of NT for that cost (albeit weaker weapons). Plus, too lazy to farm flict or modulator then upslotting them for a better income..

At the moment I'm maining Su/Br and using her to gear up my Fi/Hu, so weapon type doesn't really matter. Level 120 / 60 Light / full candy box pets do so much damage that losing out on a 30 ele Austere that would have been banked for a while wasn't a big loss. At this point it's basically wait and see where the gear goes (NT orbit? where is this going to land on the power scale...) and just kind of derp around as Su/Br in the meantime (and keep collecting more +35 NTs for affix transfer). Plus, now I don't have to worry about waking up at weird hours for an EQ.

On the subject of the Su/Br, I figured this was just a 'leech' class after reading all the shit talk about it (though a lot of it was from back around February? when it was released). I was curious enough to run the parser for a few days and was completely surprised (It's a great tool to use for self improvement, sad that people used it to belittle others). In Ult Amduscia out of about 15~ runs I topped all of them except two. I even did an all Jinga test run (the worst dps pet afaik) and ended up 1st at 17% of the MPAs damage (a 7:26 run). The two times I came in 2nd I was bested by the other AoE monster of this game... the Fo/Te, granted those were before Anga had any resistances and I was behind by less than 1%. On the other hand, I don't yet know how to do well on a fight like PD with the class.. pet resetting every time a part breaks kills dps.

Jinga run breakdown:

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Monday, October 31, 2016 7:58:42 PM | 07:26 | Ultimate Amduscia

Me | 10,861,984 dmg | 17.0% contrib | 24354.22 DPS | Max: 64,580 (Jinga Slicer)
Anon | 7,194,867 dmg | 11.2% contrib | 16131.99 DPS | Max: 59,487 (Zanverse)
Anon | 7,135,785 dmg | 11.1% contrib | 15999.52 DPS | Max: 106,858 (Kazan-nadeshiko)
Anon | 6,983,837 dmg | 10.9% contrib | 15658.83 DPS | Max: 111,727 (Backhand Smash)
Anon | 5,567,166 dmg | 8.7% contrib | 12482.43 DPS | Max: 50,820 (Orchestra)
Anon | 5,006,887 dmg | 7.8% contrib | 11226.2 DPS | Max: 45,182 (Guilty Break)
Anon | 4,257,104 dmg | 6.7% contrib | 9545.076 DPS | Max: 122,178 (Katana Combat)
Anon | 4,110,987 dmg | 6.4% contrib | 9217.46 DPS | Max: 99,477 (Infinite Fire (C))
Anon | 4,082,929 dmg | 6.4% contrib | 9154.55 DPS | Max: 102,945 (Katana Combat)
Anon | 3,292,251 dmg | 5.1% contrib | 7381.729 DPS | Max: 81,151 (Guren-tessen)
Anon | 2,901,380 dmg | 4.5% contrib | 6505.336 DPS | Max: 16,327 (Wand hit)
Anon | 2,616,487 dmg | 4.1% contrib | 5866.563 DPS | Max: 57,912 (Helix Proi)

###### Me - 10,861,984 dmg (17.0%) ######

46.83% | Jinga Slicer (5,086,144 dmg)
| 218 hits - 6,330 min, 23,331 avg, 64,580 max
21.69% | Jinga hit (2,356,397 dmg)
| 179 hits - 4,082 min, 13,164 avg, 38,022 max
20.73% | Jinga Shock (2,251,824 dmg)
| 123 hits - 11,574 min, 18,308 avg, 44,218 max
10.75% | Jinga Pulsar (1,167,188 dmg)
| 97 hits - 1,782 min, 12,033 avg, 22,111 max
00.00% | Takt hit (431 dmg)
| 4 hits - 98 min, 108 avg, 117 max

[ArcaneTechs]

SU/BR wasnt a leech combo (at the time of release, SU was considered a leech class but with todays updates not so much anymore if you know what your doing outside Melon tosses) but todays main thing is to have at least 3x Melon and Torim (aero w/e) and one other i dont remember. if the user knows how to play SU properly then it can be up there in the top players list.

i still hate SU though bbbbb

[Kondibon]

On the subject of the Su/Br, I figured this was just a 'leech' class after reading all the shit talk about it

A lot of the early hate for SU (other than the aesthetic) was because the class was new. Everyone is leveling it, and no one has good gear for it. Also the pet selection wasn't as rounded as it is now. It was never a bad class, the same thing happened with Br and Bo for similar reasons.

but todays main thing is to have at least 3x Melon and Torim (aero w/e)

Pretty sure you mean Maron, but it's such a pain to get multiple 3* Marons. :I At least there are easily obtainable decent candies for extra pets now. It always kinda sucked wanting to get an extra of a pet and then having to get useful parfaits and rolls for it.

[ohpz]

A lot of the early hate for SU (other than the aesthetic) was because the class was new. Everyone is leveling it, and no one has good gear for it. Also the pet selection wasn't as rounded as it is now. It was never a bad class, the same thing happened with Br and Bo for similar reasons.

Pretty sure you mean Maron, but it's such a pain to get multiple 3* Marons. :I At least there are easily obtainable decent candies for extra pets now. It always kinda sucked wanting to get an extra of a pet and then having to get useful parfaits and rolls for it.

If they ever add Maron or his evolution to a collection file in the future, I'll be sure to take advantage of that. Using one 13* Maron at the moment and the poor creature is always knocked out. :P

[Kondibon]

If they ever add Maron or his evolution to a collection file in the future, I'll be sure to take advantage of that. Using one 13* Maron at the moment and the poor creature is always knocked out. :P

I don't even have a 13* Maron. They never drops for me in EQs and no one wants to do Ultimate forest. >:I

[Keilyn]

If you don't have a 13* Maron, work with a 12* if you can find one until them.
At least its far better than nothing.

[oratank]

so what the point for other pet? only see maron and aero in ul :/

[Zephyrion]

so what the point for other pet? only see maron and aero in ul :/

Wanda/Jinga/Viola are actually very good pets. Worst SINGLE target DPS, but their wide AoE coupled with their tankiness make them very good for mobbing, especially if you can't marron nuke
Popple/Cery kinda serves the same purpose, with the added utility of its high normal PP recovery, a gravity grenade ripoff to help group up enemies, and Curse PA for debuffing bosses to make them less dangerous. A good SU should always have a popple and use it from time to time just for these
Melon in screwed since Marron can do everything Melon can do, but better,(except being able to mob better thanks to repeated explosions.) Still a decent pet, but we all know what happens when you have an outright better version...
Synchro can be very decent, but both the you and the pet are often very vulnerable, which is definitely a very bad thing in Ult. Still a nice bossing pet that finds use in a few situations where Aero and Marron have a bit of trouble. Additionally having a bind effect on one of his PAs make it good for utility.