I love tenora weapons, however the lack grinding is the death blow.....the highest damage benefit ceases to apply once grinding is thrown into the mix....
I love tenora weapons, however the lack grinding is the death blow.....the highest damage benefit ceases to apply once grinding is thrown into the mix....
Word. Right now GRM pwns bad strictly because you can make 5 star GRM weapons AND grind GRM weapons whereas you're not able to do either of those two things for Tenora Works (unfortunately). My arsenal will change to strictly TW when Moatoob opens though, just gonna have to carry around a few more weaps to compensate for the PP loss.On 2006-11-05 07:56, Nestahima wrote:
GRM is fairly balanced. Especially when grinded. When Moatoob opens up, Tenora will be the best. But as of right now, GRM > Tenora.On 2006-11-05 07:50, FenixStryk wrote:
Tired of people getting this concept of GRM being balanced, Yohmei having more PP, and TENORA having more damage. This is a flawed idea. Let me post to you the real stats.
GRM: Lowest Accuracy, Average Damage, Average PP
Yohmei: Average Accuracy, Lowest Damage, Highest PP
TENORA: Highest Accuracy, Highest Damage, Lowest PP
To summarize:
GRM has no advantages.
Yohmei has more PP but sucks at everything else.
TENORA does the highest damage AND has the best accuracy. If you can manage the PP, it is by far the best choice.
So, please. Stop saying GRM is balanced. It's not.
Also: Great points Fenix. I give you 9.75/10.
And that right there sir, is the reason why your statement that Tenora Works weapons are the best falls apart. If I'm a ranger, I know I'm not going to be top damage dealer, but I know my status effect and crowd control capabilities are top notch. I'd be going the Youmei line so I can fire a lot more shots and regen PP faster, because status effect proc is not ATP or ATA based... the more times I shoot, the more chances I'm going to land a status effect, or in the case of using a rifle, I'll be able to keep a monster flinching that much more often.On 2006-11-05 07:50, FenixStryk wrote:
If you can manage the PP, it is by far the best choice.
As far as forces go, I'd be using the Youmei line of equipment over others any day of the week, especially for a Resta/Reverser staff, where total PP is more important than anything.
Really, here's my stance on GRM equipment. So far, from all grinding that I've done on hunter weaponry, ATP and PP go up, but ATA does not (someone please let me know if I'm wrong). With this in mind, I'd generally go Tenora Works or Youmei for hunter weapons since both can be boosted in the departments where they suffer most and are the best at, whereas GRM seems to be left behind with the worst ATA that can't be improved (again, if I am wrong, someone let me know).
I certainly agree Parn with all three points, however I believe Fenix was indeed talking solely about Striking weapons even though he failed to mention it in his opening.
ATA does not increase when you grind a melee weapon, I just did one and triple checked to be certain.
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It's not that Tenora is bad, but that atm you cant grind them. If you choose not to grind your weapons then yes Tenora is the best, however the other brands can be improved to be better than Tenora.
GRM grinded to above 5 > *
Problem solved.
I personaly think Tenora is the best because PP DOES RUN OUT! I rather be doing over all more damage with my weapon then just relying on PA's and I rather save my PA's for when I realy need um.
Im in favor of more PA and looks than normal damage.
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GRM is balanced, don't be silly. It's not like the GRM weapons are that much weaker than their Tenora counterparts. Plus, with the extra PP, you can make up for any lost damage with special attacks.
Newmans have second highest ATA, with only CASTs having higher. I can use bows just fine, and they do good damage.On 2006-11-05 08:02, Nestahima wrote:
How are Forces supposed to use bows with such low ATA anyway.
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