(Un)Official Casino Strategy Guide

[SATatami]

There are the chumps who cant win a single copper in PSU. Then there are people who get lucky and win hundreds of gold. And then there's us. The strategists. The people who actually KNOW what they're doing. The purpose of this topic is to pool together strategies for Voyolal so that we all can even the rarities that are the Chainsawd and the (Burger) King's chair. That being said, I'll open up with a tried and true strategy.



Notice my bet there. Notice it? Alright. First grab your 1 silver. It's all good, you're poor, you wanna bet low, right? Wrong. Go and place 50 copper on either red or black. Now you have 50 copper left. This is where most people stopping betting. But not us! Go to one of the number ranges, either 1-12, 13-24, or 25-36, and bet another amount on there. For the sake of this example, let's say 25. now you have 25 copper left. We done yet? No way! Go to one of the squares on your number range (in this case, 30) and place a small bet such as 10. Do this for as many numbers in your range as you want. normally, I do two, 30, and 32. now, if you do two for 10 each, you'll have 5 coins left. Now what to do with those coins? Before we do, let's recap with what I did.

1. Get 1 silver.
2. 50 on black.
3. 25 on 25-36.
4. 10 on 30.
5. 10 on 32.

Okay. Now you have 5 copper left. What to do with it? You have several options.

1. Hold it. If you fail, you can always use it for the next run.
2. Bet on 0. Might as well, right? >_>
3. The smartest choice, other than 0, would be to put that 5 on red or black, the OPPOSITE of what you have 50 on. that way, if you lose by it landing on red, you still get 10 coins back for you to try again.
4. Place it somewhere random on the board.... >_>

I would do either 1 or 3 from the above list. After that, the wheel spins. It lands on 30! What's that mean? The payout is 5 Silver 60 Copper! You hit it good! Even if you hit it in your range, and not on an exact spot, you'll get 1 Silver, 75 copper, an obvious improvement or 1 Silver! Of course, you're free to change any of the numbers as long as you feel it'd get the job done better. Don't forget to know when to quit, too! And that concludes my first strategy. I'll post more as I think of em. In the meantime, feel free to post your own.



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[SATatami]

And ahh, hell. Wrong forum. >_<

[Dopples]

I find that there's a slow, but pretty flawless way to bet on Roulette that works for me anyways.


1.Get your silver
2.Place 20 on Black
3.Place 20 on Red
4.Bet 10 on any of the number ranges (1-36, etc.)
5.Repeat step 4

Either way, you either come out with a little extra, or a little lost. Either way, it's a safer alternative to your strategy. Though, if one does feel lucky, I assume that trying your strategy would be ok as well.

[SATatami]

On 2008-01-11 00:47, Dopples wrote:
I find that there's a slow, but pretty flawless way to bet on Roulette that works for me anyways.


1.Get your silver
2.Place 20 on Black
3.Place 20 on Red
4.Bet 10 on any of the number ranges (1-36, etc.)
5.Repeat step 4

Either way, you either come out with a little extra, or a little lost. Either way, it's a safer alternative to your strategy. Though, if one does feel lucky, I assume that trying your strategy would be ok as well.

That is actually quite a safe method. Even better would be betting on TWO ranges instead of just one. It's somewhat safer, but it has a little less of a income flow. oh, and it hurts a bit more when you get pwned by 0. ^_-

[Syl]

On 2008-01-11 00:47, Dopples wrote:
I find that there's a slow, but pretty flawless way to bet on Roulette that works for me anyways.


1.Get your silver
2.Place 20 on Black
3.Place 20 on Red
4.Bet 10 on any of the number ranges (1-36, etc.)
5.Repeat step 4

Either way, you either come out with a little extra, or a little lost. Either way, it's a safer alternative to your strategy. Though, if one does feel lucky, I assume that trying your strategy would be ok as well.

Theres a huge flaw with this strategy.

Why even bet on black AND red if your outcome will be like if you didn't bet on them at all? I mean, you put in 40 and only gain that 40 back. There's really no point to it at all since you don't gain at all. You might as well not bet on colors at all. You stand to lose if it lands on green too.

Here's my method, it's simple and effective... to a degree I guess. Just bet on two ranges. I usually go 50/50 with the silver I get each day and just keep going at it until I'm satisfied.

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[SATatami]

On 2008-01-11 00:54, SylviaEspada wrote:

On 2008-01-11 00:47, Dopples wrote:
I find that there's a slow, but pretty flawless way to bet on Roulette that works for me anyways.


1.Get your silver
2.Place 20 on Black
3.Place 20 on Red
4.Bet 10 on any of the number ranges (1-36, etc.)
5.Repeat step 4

Either way, you either come out with a little extra, or a little lost. Either way, it's a safer alternative to your strategy. Though, if one does feel lucky, I assume that trying your strategy would be ok as well.

Theres a huge flaw with this strategy.

Why even bet on black AND red if your outcome will be like if you didn't bet on them at all? I mean, you put in 40 and only gain that 40 back. There's really no point to it at all since you don't gain at all. You might as well not bet on colors at all. You stand to lose if it lands on green too.

He DOES have a point... >_>

[AlphaMinotaux]

If your not a patient gambler you can always bet on red or black (48% chance to win?). I keep betting till I win, If I do lose, I bet what I Just lost so I can break even when I do win. Rinse and repeat start over when I do win. Heres an example of my gambling method.


1st bet: 20c (lost)
2nd bet: 40c (lost)
3rd bet: 1s20c (lost)
4th bet: 3s60c (lost)
5th bet: 9s (win, Break even)

1st bet: 10c
2nd bet: 20c
3rd bet: 60c
4th bet: 1s50c
5th bet: 3s90c

and if you go 5 times in a row without any wins well maybe its just not your day since every spin you have a 50%(a little less) chance of winning by betting on red or black.

I'd be Rich but I like big gambles. *ALL ON RED!* it lands on black and I let out bit of profanity and i'm poor again.

[SStrikerR]

I start out with 2 silver and use this strategy.

1. bet 1 silver on whatever i guess itll land on
2. bet 50 on the other color.
3.I started at 2 silver, and i either lose 50 or win 50. I win a lot using this.
4. if you ever win a lot and then drop to 3s 50c, spend those 50 copper on the dumb slots and hope you win, if not, oh well.
5. start with 4 coins thomorrow =D

[SolomonGrundy]

this is so silly. There is no way to win at roulette except for luck. There are = amounts of red and black, and three sets of = numbers for each section. Then there is a '0' which means over time, the house will win.

The ONLY way to "beat" the system is place a heavy bet and double or triple your money (depending on how risk adverse you are). Basically, take your silver that you've been saving all week (or however long you can stand to wait), and place it on red/black and hope you win. if you do, take your ENTRIE winnings, and bet again.

for a small number of bets you can beat the odds...

for those who like to waste more time, feel free to pump bronze and or silver into the slot machines. it prolongs the 'fun'

Ahh, one thing that comes to my attention: if you knew the odds of the slot machine, then depending on how big the pot is, it might makes sense to play...
please don't make me ex[plain that part - the best analogy is the American lotterry system where the more tickets people buy, the larger the 'pot' gets. Sometimes no one wins for a while, and the 'pot' grows so large, the odds of winning are = t the amount paid out, should you be the winner. This is usually $34 million or so, and STILL assumes you are the only big winner.

I'd rather waste my time pressing "X" repeatedly

[Doh42]

@Ryan:
You do realize that the 1 silver on "red" and 50 copper on "black" is actually more risky than going 50 copper on "red" and nothing on "black"?

If it hits black, you lose 50 copper. If it hits red, you gain 50 copper. If it hits 0, you lose 50 copper. 18/37 chance of making money, 19/37 of losing the same amount.
In your example, if it hits black, you lose 50 copper. If it hits red, you gain 50 copper. If it hits 0, you lose 150 copper. 18/37 chance of making money, 18/37 chance of losing the same amount, 1/37 of losing three times as much.

AlphaMinotaux's method is the only one to "cheat" the system, which is basically that as long as you lose, you double your bet.
For example, always pick "red".
-10 copper on Red. If you win: you get 10 copper
-If you lose, bet 20 on red. If you win, you end up with +10 copper (-10 first turn, +20 = +10)
-If you lose, bet 40 on red. If you win, you end up with +10 copper (-10 first turn, -20 on second, +40 = +10)
-and so on.

This is considered "illegal" in many casinos and risk having people suggest that you move to other sources of gambling, such as slot machines.

After simulating it on a computer program for thousands of rounds, even the "double if you lose" method isn't failsafe, because of the 0 (There's only ~49% chance every turn that you win), and the fact you need a large amount of capital to be able to constantly double your previous bet.
4 loses in a row : 10 + 20 + 40 + 80 = Total of 150 copper.
5 loses in a row : 10 + 20 + 40 + 80 + 160 = Total of 310 copper.
6 loses in a row : 10 + 20 + 40 + 80 + 160 + 320 = Total of 630 copper.

Since 6 loses in a row isn't unheard of, having 63x (630 copper versus 10) as much money as the amount you gamble means that your gains are minimal, and you'll spend lots of time at the roulette.

Personally, I just drop my silver on a series (1-12 or so) and hope to see it tripled. I deposit it if it does, otherwise I just go home empty-handed and that's over for the day.