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  1. #111

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    Forces still have insanely high MST. Beast force has higher MST than any non-force too....which means in a tech heavy area, FObeasts will outsurvive vanguards! BWAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!...snort.

  2. #112

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    Quote Originally Posted by THOTH View Post
    I've never played PSU, actually and am unaquainted with their community.

    The build would probably be something like:

    Debuff mag+whip/saber/whatever's clever
    Sheild+resta/Zalure wand
    Double saber/daggers
    Spear
    Rod (For melee resistent enemies or as a finishing move if logical...or if I just feel like spamming techs until the PP runs out)
    Rod (with resta, one pragmatic tech and the two buffs)

    I'd be self sufficent in the game and due to how hard forces are to play, people will want my company as a force.

    Also compared to other forces, I feel male beasts have the best survival all together, which is a key bonus unto itself.
    I'll try. I'll get the video uploaded in about twelve hours, but I'm sure what you'll end up seeing is the horrible tech damage outside of chains, how hard it is to build chains with techs, and how much better Striking PAs are than Techs.

    I don't know yet, but I think Shifta+Deband+Zalure+Jellen will eat SO much of the PP that I'll be forced to switch up to a Double Saber. The casting time for Techs will be reduced as I'll be using the Fast Casting abilities, without them it wouldn't even be worth using at all.
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  3. #113

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    So, if striking PA's are better then techs, techs shouldn't be used unless again, the enemies are melee resistant. Deband and shifta won't be cast ALL the time, Zalure and Jellen yes they need to be kept up.

    Basically I'm thinking melee is the main focus, and teching as a "I'm bored of melee". Plus it's not hard to switch from daggers to a rod if teching is the goal.

    You'll see!

  4. #114

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    I'm not near the laptop that'll do the recording, but I have started testing out the Beast as of this moment.

    How many Melee resistant enemies do you think there are?!
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  5. #115

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    Prolly not many, but just sayin.

    3rd level stat changers are worth a force character, even if teching is rarely used. Trust boo, trust.

    I wouldn't mind a FOcast for the same reasons, but FObeasts can tech when they need to (about as well as humans can)

  6. #116

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    Quote Originally Posted by THOTH View Post
    Prolly not many, but just sayin.

    3rd level stat changers are worth a force character, even if teching is rarely used. Trust boo, trust.

    I wouldn't mind a FOcast for the same reasons, but FObeasts can tech when they need to (about as well as humans can)
    im not so sure you can compair beasts to humans as tekkers. humans have 2nd best tp and mst second only to newmans. as beasts have the best atp and hp second to none. if beasts were as good as humans as tekkers. the game would be extreamly unbalanced.

  7. #117

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    Why does everyone assume I have no clue what I'm talking about? Ugh.

    Okay, look up max stats for forces. Beast females have the EXACT same TP as human male forces. Same PP and same PP regen.

    Beasts are completey re-balanced for PSP2.

    ANNNND because they don't use a unit for nanoblast, you can use an extra stat unit...like a TP up unit, to further reduce gaps.

    Granted nano blast stinks on beast forces...but invincibility one lets you be a tank at least.



    ...the balance issues is the ATA, which beasts really suffer from. Even as a ranger they aren't amazing with guns.... Typically MST is a weakness too (Not as a force though!).

    Though, I think a beast ranger (female) might be interesting. She'd have to use all 4 units for ATA, and be doing mostly melee...but the level 30 bullets would offer an interesting set of tools to help compensate for weaknesses. They'd end up playing like a vanguard, really....hmmm.
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  8. #118

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    When comparing stats between races its generally considered that your comparing the same sex unless other wise stated.
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  9. #119

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    What was being discussed is the ability to compare beast teching to human teching. Since there is over lap, they fall in the same range. I view casts and humans as being in the same tier of ATP because male humans and female casts overlap in ATP. Likewise male newmans have the same ATA as human females (but PP differences pop up)

    Everyone seems to be arguing with me today. Meh.

  10. #120

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    A female FOBeast is decent (imo beast is the 2nd best Racial choice for FO). You will want the High PP boost though so be prepared to level up Vanguard.

    @ Izuna: Having seen your video, I believe our play styles of Braver/Vanguard are drastically different... You've got some REALLY good gear too! Probably took like 600+ hours to get all that and 2 lvl 200 chars . Have you played the MAX's before? If not you might be in for a fairly nasty surprise .
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