Feri Force Feri/Force Hunt Strategies? Drop Rates?

[Mystic_Nessly]

For people who have found Feri/Force, I want to know what your strategy was in finding the item. I ask because I want to see if a different strategy than mine will help in getting this item. If you haven't found Feri/Force, but have a strategy in mind, you're free to input as well!

フェリ/フォース

• Reduces the PP cost of all TECHNICs to 80%.
• Reduces TECHNIC casting time by 33%.
• Increases TECHNIC range.
• +250 tech

It drops from Hiru Vol (red haired Vol Brother) at the very beginning of the Ohtori Encampment GAM mission on S3.

According to people I have played with and that have found it, it's a pretty easy drop that can be found within an hour or so of hunting. I have hunted this unit for over 6 hours with no success. A few people I know have multiple Feri/Force units in less time.

My strategy has been nothing but using "just attack" Rising Strike on Hiru Vol with level 5 buffs as Acrotecher. Occasionally I'll accidentally hit another brother, but 95% of my attacks go to him. Doing this, I'm able to defeat'em in 2 mins 30 secs on average. If I don't get hit or he doesn't move around too much, I'm able to do it in 2 mins. After his death, I'll restart the mission.

The impatient side of me is telling me to bite the bullet and fork over 60mil to buy it from a player shop, but I want to first try different strategies.

I really do believe there are more factors that come into play when determining rare drop rates than just than just X enemy has Y% of dropping Z item. Take for instance these possible ways a drop rate may be determined:

1. what if only a certain number of X items can be distributed within Y time frame? After Y time, replenish stock? When replenishing stock, change number of items in stock and extend/shorten time frame?
2. Another thought is that "popping" Hiru Vol in the air repeatedly will decrease chances of the drop. Maybe increasing variety of attacks increases or doesn't decrease drop rate?
3. (Number of combinations of photon arts) / (weapons used to defeat an enemy) ratio may affect rates?
4. Status effect inflicted to enemy or received from enemy may affect rates?
5. (Damage dealt) / (number of hits) ratio may affect rates?
6. (Number of hits dealt to enemy) / (enemy max hp ratio) may affect rates?

Anyone have similar thoughts on how PSU drops may be calculated?

[Cloudstrife xx]

No just no....to all those crazy theories however if u have either fortefighter wartecher acrofighter or fighgunner lvled up might i suggest you switch to one of those and use Assault Crush it will kill hiru vol alot quicker than rising strike.
On my female cast fortefighter i can clear that first room and kill lina in the 2nd room ( for feril wall) in about 2-3min

[Nereid]

If you can only stick with AT, use Spinning Strike, you will probably take him down more quickly...but honestly switch to a class that has access to Assault Crush and you will greatly improve your time. If you have drop tickets those probablic help.

[Hero-Break]

Just keep hunting it is the only thing I could suggest. You are probably gonna hate me after reading this, but I got one after 5 runs aka 10 minutes of hunting on my WT. I pretty much did the same thing you did: defeat Hiru and then repeat the mission. I just used Robado with Juggernauts. I guess it just comes down to odds and luck.

Now only if I can get the stupid De Rol Le Shell for Evil Crust to drop... over 100 20-25 min. runs and counting (sigh).

[Vent]

I got it in like...~30 runs I think. Maybe less.

I used Masterforce. Equip a rod with all ice techs. Spam barta from the stairs. Barta ignores relief and will climb up the stairs whereas the foie and the bullets of the two Vols will not hit you. Sometimes you need to back up a bit if they come too close. They can't come down the stairs though and Hiru Vol will cast the big boom sometimes, forcing them to go back and giving you more room. I can kill Hiru Vol under or around 2 minutes.

But as others have mentioned, Assault Crush spam is the way to go these days.

[cristfc]

Ill upload a video showing exact thing that I do when hunt feris, basically it was next what Vent does...
Hope that you got your unit soon

[pikachief]

my strategy is to walk up the stairs and kill hiru vol. then i abandon, start the mission, walk up the stairs and kill hiru vol.

after about an hour i call it a day and try again the next day :/ I'll get one soon lol

[cristfc]

[Pofo]

Random Luck is random luck. There's no special strategy for making things drop. Me and Rozalin pulled 7 Forces and 2 walls in a couple days of hunting (on and off for a couple hours at a time). About 1 minute and 30 seconds per run roughly. Just keep at it, I'll come help you if I'm free, just send me a message when you're on.

Oh and don't buy it for 60M >.< Before I realized how easy it was to hunt I dropped 40mil on mine, so if you really do just want to buy it, just monitor the prices carefully.

I do have a question though, regarding the video in the above post. How do you set it up so that you cast while afk? I know lots of people do it during buff parties, etc., but I never knew how.

[pikachief]

Random Luck is random luck. There's no special strategy for making things drop. Me and Rozalin pulled 7 Forces and 2 walls in a couple days of hunting

random luck sounds about right. Been three days for me an hour a day of hunting, also about 1:30 min a run and no forces yet :/