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    Perhaps so, but "not worst" is not the objective here. A human has access to a massive variety of GAS, sure, but the majority of classes use only one or two weapons in most situations; easily few enough for other races to GAS effectively, efficiently, and spend less time and effort levelling for a greater output due to racial stat differences.

    Some of my best friends are black human. I know that they can be good. I know a Fighgunner who can just about outspeed anyone, and if not his wide range of sheer utility puts masterclasses to shame. But they're never the best; that's usually a SUV CAST.

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    Tiers (JP version)

    S: Acrofighter, Fortefighter
    A: Fighmaster, Fighgunner, Wartecher
    B: Masterforce, Gunmaster, Fortegunner
    C: Fortetecher, Protranser
    D: Guntecher, Acrotecher

    Granted, sometimes MF is in the A, and FT and PT are in the B, but I think I was being pretty realistic with the way things are balanced atm. And notice how all the types with Assault Crush are in the higher tiers. ;P

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    I'd say Fighmaster belongs in the S tier. It just requires an insane amount of skill and luck to be able to pull off equal times. Plus the new sword makes it a bit easier.

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    Ok lets see. I am gonna still your chart and use it for 360. :P

    Tiers (360)

    S: Fighmaster, Gunmaster, Masterforce
    A: Fortegunner, Fortefighter
    B: Acrofighter
    C: Protranser, Acrotecher
    D: Fighgunner, Wartecher, Guntecher, Fortetecher

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    Assault Crush's extra target elevated a balanced PA into WHOAMGBROKEN territory. Not using it when it's available is like refusing to advance past Hunter.

    SEGAC aren't really in the market for taking away buffs, but I can see them reducing the power and upping the PP usage in the not too distant future, if only to make Blade Destruction the best by comparison.

    Also, if we're talking about 180/20s, how many AP are we giving to our theoretical characters? With no AP, Masterforce is pretty hard hit for instance. On Xbox, I've been pretty casual since GAS was introduced, and have only earned 40 or so AP, and even that's made a world of difference to my class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheAstarion View Post
    Assault Crush's extra target elevated a balanced PA into WHOAMGBROKEN territory. Not using it when it's available is like refusing to advance past Hunter.

    SEGAC aren't really in the market for taking away buffs, but I can see them reducing the power and upping the PP usage in the not too distant future, if only to make Blade Destruction the best by comparison.

    Also, if we're talking about 180/20s, how many AP are we giving to our theoretical characters? With no AP, Masterforce is pretty hard hit for instance. On Xbox, I've been pretty casual since GAS was introduced, and have only earned 40 or so AP, and even that's made a world of difference to my class.
    As much as our current limit allows.
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    Orochi- M.Human-Lvl 180, Lvl 20 PT/WT/AT/FI
    Anj- F.Newman-Lvl 180, Lvl20 MF/AF/GT/AT
    Ranvir- F.Cast-Lvl 180, Lvl 20 GM/FI/FM/AF
    Sydney Bristow- F.Human-Lvl 180, Lvl 20 GT/FG/GM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midori Oku View Post
    Ok lets see. I am gonna still your chart and use it for 360. :P

    Tiers (360)

    S: Fighmaster, Gunmaster, Masterforce
    A: Fortegunner, Fortefighter
    B: Acrofighter
    C: Protranser, Acrotecher
    D: Fighgunner, Wartecher, Guntecher, Fortetecher
    Hmmmm... Ok, if you had to choose one for CAST and one for Human, which would you choose for them based on your tiers?
    *PSO Hunters Guild*

    Orochi- M.Human-Lvl 180, Lvl 20 PT/WT/AT/FI
    Anj- F.Newman-Lvl 180, Lvl20 MF/AF/GT/AT
    Ranvir- F.Cast-Lvl 180, Lvl 20 GM/FI/FM/AF
    Sydney Bristow- F.Human-Lvl 180, Lvl 20 GT/FG/GM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orochinagi View Post
    Hmmmm... Ok, if you had to choose one for CAST and one for Human, which would you choose for them based on your tiers?
    I don't understand what you are asking, can you elaborate?

    Like choose one of those tiers for cast and another for a human?

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    Fortefighter is in "A Tier?" Nice, I figured most people would throw it down to B or lower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midori Oku View Post
    I don't understand what you are asking, can you elaborate?

    Like choose one of those tiers for cast and another for a human?
    Out of the first two tiers, choose a class for the two races that you think would fit best
    *PSO Hunters Guild*

    Orochi- M.Human-Lvl 180, Lvl 20 PT/WT/AT/FI
    Anj- F.Newman-Lvl 180, Lvl20 MF/AF/GT/AT
    Ranvir- F.Cast-Lvl 180, Lvl 20 GM/FI/FM/AF
    Sydney Bristow- F.Human-Lvl 180, Lvl 20 GT/FG/GM

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