Specialists ^_^

[Keilyn]

When all the arguments fall and everything subsides, two kind of players exist at the very end of the day. General Players (outer) and Specialist (Inner) players.

General players learn about different classes and types and while they have one or two they like playing, they are more content with simply playing a game and seeing everything. There is nothing wrong with that ever....In fact they are the ones who are more neutral, tend to be better administrators and turn out to be great modders.

Of course this thread is about Specialists.

Specialists tend to specialize in one-class or one category against the others. When trained they tend to become the best tournament players and are more team oriented. When trained they tend to give me the best information about their own class and those who directly oppose them. In fact they make some of the best mappers around too...

What I want to know is how many of you "feel" or "know" that you have learned towards one central type and which one? Also, do you feel you have a specialization in playing under that type?

My central type for me hands down is Wartecher. Secondary I run as AT or MF. However my heart is in Wartecher.

I would like to compile a list of specialists here on all levels. I am not asking for "Eliteness" in "Specialization" but for those who know they are committed to a central type of their choice.

~Keilyn

[XbikXBd]

ohmagah....this is a total troll XD oh well all i ever read is blah blah me me me blah blah blah from these things

[pikachief]

cool story bro

(I r not a, how you say, "specialist ^_^" :P )

[Crysteon]

Eh...my first reaction to this was:

Spoiler!

Poker face, dood....

The only thing I know is that I only use AF as a main type because I like it since I joined JP, and also I acknowledge its strenghts and weaknesses....I ignore if that makes me a "specialist ^_^", because I also know some about the other types in game.

[RemiusTA]

When all the arguments fall and everything subsides, two kind of players exist at the very end of the day. General Players (outer) and Specialist (Inner) players.

General players learn about different classes and types and while they have one or two they like playing, they are more content with simply playing a game and seeing everything. There is nothing wrong with that ever....In fact they are the ones who are more neutral, tend to be better administrators and turn out to be great modders.

Of course this thread is about Specialists.

Specialists tend to specialize in one-class or one category against the others. When trained they tend to become the best tournament players and are more team oriented. When trained they tend to give me the best information about their own class and those who directly oppose them. In fact they make some of the best mappers around too...

What I want to know is how many of you "feel" or "know" that you have learned towards one central type and which one? Also, do you feel you have a specialization in playing under that type?

My central type for me hands down is Wartecher. Secondary I run as AT or MF. However my heart is in Wartecher.

I would like to compile a list of specialists here on all levels. I am not asking for "Eliteness" in "Specialization" but for those who know they are committed to a central type of their choice.

~Keilyn

You know this is the first post ive seen from you in a while where i wasn't tempted to kick my monitor. But i find it hilarious the reaction the rest of the crowd is giving you.



To keep this short...Phantasy Star just isn't that kind of game series. The most effective strategy for any class is simply to pick the most damaging ability paired with the weapon that boosts its use the greatest. Time Attack is more about knowing spawns and using abilities that boost your maneuvering speed (totally unintended by the staff, mind you.) so you can finish the stage quicker. Being "advanced" at this game is more of an indication of how long you play, not how skilled you are at your class, which in all honesty doesn't take much brain power in the slightest.


I think the only real indication of skill in this game series in the past has been Challenge Mode in PSO, mainly because although it had set spawns, the item drops were still random. Of course, even this was able to be ran through with the gift of a little bit of hindsight (but that's cheating). But regardless, it was a mode that encouraged you to think, sacrifice and coordinate.



But Phantasy Star Universe? Lol no. Weapons have been taken COMPLETELY out of situational use and thrown completely into a tier of targets and damage multipliers. When the devs nerf a skill, instead of using another one on the same weapon, people start hunting the weapon class with the best substitute; there is no real skill to this game. Well, aside from learning how to attack and navigate the menu quickly at the same time.



There's no reason to not ask people to be elitists. Anyone who claims to be an "elitist" at this game is, no offense, a fucking moron.

[Midori Oku]

Eh...my first reaction to this was:

Spoiler!

Poker face, dood....

The only thing I know is that I only use AF as a main type because I like it since I joined JP, and also I acknowledge its strenghts and weaknesses....I ignore if that makes me a "specialist ^_^", because I also know some about the other types in game.

This^

But I play as MF.

[Keilyn]

I asked something similar to Guild Wars players as well as players who play class-based shooters. Even in shooters that have no classes (like Quake and UT) you still have play styles.

What happened in the threads was that people thought that specialization was more of a declaration of being elite in a class. One of my friends in the game Guild Wars played her Elementalist in a five year period for close to 6,000 hours counting AFKs and all of that.

She posted "I like being an Elementalist" and people bashed her as some elitist for just saying that. However in shooter forumboards I would compile a list of people out of clans who liked specializing in classes in order to organize 8v8 usually with 2 snipers, 3 front runners, 2 trappers/sabatours and usually 1 tailback (games without medics, tailbacks are used to clear paths to pickups to allow other players to get them or to camp certain pickups)

So far all I know is that Crys likes AF. I've always known that Midori likes MF. I've seen Jess before doing AF/FM. So I was curious.

I like trying to organize several types of players together for the fun, the laughs and the combination of things. PSU being class and race oriented is the main reason I actually play it. Its all about the characters.

[RemiusTA]

All im saying is that, it really doesn't go any deeper than that. You just have a prefered class for your playstyle. I dont think you can really specialize in anything in this game.

Like i said, your effectiveness at your class stems from your stats, which is proportional to the amount of time you use it.

[bloodflowers]

All im saying is that, it really doesn't go any deeper than that. You just have a prefered class for your playstyle. I dont think you can really specialize in anything in this game.

Like i said, your effectiveness at your class stems from your stats, which is proportional to the amount of time you use it.

The 'no skill in PSU posts' have always been short sighted, and wrong.

You certainly can specialise in a class in this game, and there is an enourmous gap between someone who specialises in a class, and someone who just plays it from time to time. A large part of it is definitely learning what to use and when, based on maps and spawns (good luck if you think you can memorise them all, because I can't), but quality of execution matters too.

[Keilyn]

I was going to say this but I wanted someone else to say this.....because if i said the same thing I would be defined as pretentious.

There is a major difference between a beginner in a class and an expert in a class and I see this everyday. Masterforce is an example of this. Beginners are going to die a lot not used to the low HP while top MFs are going to annihilate a map and it won't be easy to see one die.

The S4 mission yesterday I went through 11 - 12 runs and I think I only scaped once in the entire party, compared to the player who died six times in the same map due to megid or opposite armor hits.