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    Default Rare enemy appearance chances?

    So, just want to ask you guys your opinions of what you believe the chances of finding a rare variant of the enemies that appear in each area, with supporting evidence on your kill counts for each. I'll start with mine, and once we get a bunch of data collected, maybe we can figure out what the closest approximate true value for each rare enemies' rarities are!

    I will also be including Vespao in this list, due to its "uncommonness" of appearance, as well as only one appearing at a time when it DOES appear, making it share a rarity rate of appearance close to some of the "rare" enemies in this list as well, such as the -veils.

    Tormatible: 3%
    Grimble kills: 2001
    Tormatible kills: 67

    Blaze Helion: 5-7%
    Helion kills: 1157
    Blaze Helion kills: 78

    Vespao: 10%
    Hypao kills: 2519
    Vespao kills: 274

    Pelcatobur: 4-5%
    Pelcatraz kills: 820
    Pelcatobur kills: 34

    Usanimere: 1% <rarest enemy by far>
    Usanny kills: 3289
    Usanimere kills: 32

    Hildegigas: 5%
    Hildegao kills: 679
    Hildeghana kills: 289
    Hildegigas kills: 46

    Goldix: 4-5%
    Bolix kills: 5539
    Goldix kills: 234

    Azherowa-B2: 1-2% <almost as rare as Usanimere! :O>
    Izhirak-S6 kills: 5195
    Azherowa-B2 kills: 87

    Frunaked: 3-5%
    Fruoutang kills: 2663
    Frunaked kills: 92

    Rohcrysta: 5%
    Rohjade kills: 809
    Rohcrysta kills: 41

    Arkzein R: 3-5%
    Arkzein kills: 1376
    Arkzein R kills: 50

    Eulidveil: 8-10%
    Eulid kills: 3918
    Eulidveil kills: 298

    Euladaveil: 8-10%
    Eulada kills: 3137
    Euladaveil kills: 281

    Phobos Dyna: 5%
    Phobos kills: 1441
    Phobos Dyna kills: 75

    Zaphobos Dyna: 3-5%
    Zaphobos kills: 1139
    Zaphobos Dyna kills: 39

    Which leads to this list of which enemies are rarest, according to my games' combined kill rate percentages, listed by lowest % to highest %:

    Usanimere: 1%
    Azherowa-B2: ~2%
    Grimble: ~3%
    Zaphobos Dyna: ~3%
    Frunaked: ~3-4%
    Arkzein R: ~4-5%
    Peclatobur: ~4-5%
    Goldix: ~4-5%
    Phobos Dyna: ~5%
    Hildegigas: 5%
    Rohcrysta: 5%
    Blaze Helion: ~6%
    Euladaveil: ~9%
    Eulidveil: ~9%
    Vespao: ~10%

    Feel free to add your own kill counts to the mix as well to help my experimentations and results!
    Last edited by Chaos Rappy; Jan 8, 2012 at 11:31 PM.
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    Interesting, I will get around to doing this later. My numbers will be far from as impressive though xD

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    Tormatible: 4%
    Grimble kills: 2123
    Tormatible kills: 87

    Blaze Helion: 6%
    Helion kills: 1036
    Blaze Helion kills: 59

    Vespao: 10%
    Hypao kills: 2116
    Vespao kills: 212

    Pelcatobur: 5%
    Pelcatraz kills: 650
    Pelcatobur kills: 30

    Usanimere: 1%
    Usanny kills: 3284
    Usanimere kills: 46

    Hildegigas: 5%
    Hildegao kills: 826
    Hildeghana kills: 317
    Hildegigas kills: 53

    Goldix: 5%
    Bolix kills: 2274
    Goldix kills: 116

    Azherowa-B2: 2%
    Izhirak-S6 kills: 2093
    Azherowa-B2 kills: 45

    Frunaked: 3%
    Fruoutang kills: 1160
    Frunaked kills: 30

    Rohcrysta: 4%
    Rohjade kills: 739
    Rohcrysta kills: 33

    Arkzein R: 5%
    Arkzein kills: 599
    Arkzein R kills: 27

    Eulidveil: 6%
    Eulid kills: 1734
    Eulidveil kills: 111

    Euladaveil: 8%
    Eulada kills: 1502
    Euladaveil kills: 116

    Phobos Dyna: 4%
    Phobos kills: 787
    Phobos Dyna kills: 31

    Zaphobos Dyna: 3%
    Zaphobos kills: 683
    Zaphobos Dyna kills: 19

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    I'm using the total kills from both my carts:

    Tormatible: 4.1%
    Grimble kills: 1977
    Tormatible kills: 81

    Blaze Helion: 3.9%
    Helion kills: 1114
    Blaze Helion kills: 44

    Vespao: 10.1%
    Hypao kills: 3563
    Vespao kills: 361

    Pelcatobur: 3.5%
    Pelcatraz kills: 1135
    Pelcatobur kills: 40

    Usanimere: 1.8%
    Usanny kills: 5440
    Usanimere kills: 98

    Hildegigas: 5.5%
    Hildegao kills: 1086
    Hildeghana kills: 463
    Hildegigas kills: 85

    Goldix: 5.5%
    Bolix kills: 2515
    Goldix kills: 138

    Azherowa-B2: 1.9%
    Izhirak-S6 kills: 2365
    Azherowa-B2 kills: 45

    Frunaked: 3.4%
    Fruoutang kills: 1352
    Frunaked kills: 46

    Rohcrysta: 3.5%
    Rohjade kills: 1484
    Rohcrysta kills: 52

    Arkzein R: 5.5%
    Arkzein kills: 1118
    Arkzein R kills: 61

    Eulidveil: 6.3%
    Eulid kills: 1458
    Eulidveil kills: 92

    Euladaveil: 6.9%
    Eulada kills: 1240
    Euladaveil kills: 86

    Phobos Dyna: 3.2%
    Phobos kills: 907
    Phobos Dyna kills: 29

    Zaphobos Dyna: 2.7%
    Zaphobos kills: 731
    Zaphobos Dyna kills: 20
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    Awesome additions guys. Only helps to prove my theory that Usanimere is still pretty much the rarest enemy in the game, and interestingly not that far ahead of the Azherowa-B2... wonder why the Azherowa's don't get the "special enemy appearance" theme played when they appear, like the Rappies, Boomas, and Usanimeres, when they're just about as rare? <.<
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    Adding a few more, just because:

    Since Vespao was listed:
    Akorse: 10.8%
    Korse kills: 7472
    Akorse kills: 806

    Compared to total enemy encounters:
    Total kills: 85,191

    Rappies: 0.22%
    Rappy kills: 93
    Ar Rappy kills: 50
    Rab Rappy kills: 44

    Boomas: 0.33%
    Booma Origin kills: 157
    Gigobooma Origin kills: 122
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    Oh, those numbers are rather unnecessary, really... Akorse has a low number usually because while it commonly appears, it only ever appears one at a time. Unlike the Vespao, note I said "commonly appears"... which I wish wasn't true, since Vespao does have rare drops. <.<

    As for the Rappies and Boomas, their appearance rate has already been determined from reliable sources, so I left them out with good reason. They both have an approximate 5% chance of appearing in any stage, the chances involved being higher or lower if you actually fulfill the requirement for their chance of appearing to matter, like going to the dead-ends / crossroads for Rappies, or backtracking from a dead-end for Boomas... :/
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    Are there ever two Vespaos in the same room? I thought there was usually only one.
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    Nope. Vespao only either appears with three other Hypaos or with a bunch of Pomarr's, I think...
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    Vespao, Eulidveil, and Euladaveil aren't really rare, but uncommon.

    Tormatible: 4.4%
    Grimble kills: 2042
    Tormatible kills: 90

    Blaze Helion: 9.1%
    Helion kills: 1134
    Blaze Helion kills: 103

    Vespao: 7.2%
    Hypao kills: 4527
    Vespao kills: 328

    Pelcatobur: 7.8%
    Pelcatraz kills: 1176
    Pelcatobur kills: 92

    Usanimere: 0.9%
    Usanny kills: 7786
    Usanimere kills: 72

    Hildegigas: 3.7%
    Hildegao kills: 1911
    Hildeghana kills: 741
    Hildegigas kills: 97

    Goldix: 4.5%
    Bolix kills: 3450
    Goldix kills: 154

    Azherowa-B2: 2.2% (=U)
    Izhirak-S6 kills: 3220
    Azherowa-B2 kills: 71

    Frunaked: 3.5%
    Fruoutang kills: 1758
    Frunaked kills: 62

    Rohcrysta: 5.1%
    Rohjade kills: 2173
    Rohcrysta kills: 110

    Arkzein R: 3%
    Arkzein kills: 1149
    Arkzein R kills: 34

    Eulidveil: 8.8%
    Eulid kills: 3317
    Eulidveil kills: 294

    Euladaveil: 8.1%
    Eulada kills: 2701
    Euladaveil kills: 219

    Phobos Dyna: 5.3%
    Phobos kills: 1309
    Phobos Dyna kills: 70

    Zaphobos Dyna: 4.3%
    Zaphobos kills: 1000
    Zaphobos Dyna kills: 43

    Azherowa is one of the rarest because whenever he spawns, he spawns alone, and the Izharaks can spawn in pairs. Tormitable spawns in groups of 3 (or side by side with a Blaze Helion) for example. Usanimere has the lowest count because of the abundance of the Usannies. Hildegigas would have been the rarest if it wasn't for the final boss room having a high chance to spawn it. Rohcrystas are pretty common in my experiences.
    Last edited by DoctorShanks; Jan 12, 2012 at 09:05 PM. Reason: Derped math on Azherowa

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