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    Quote Originally Posted by Powder Keg View Post
    Th....this is a joke, right?

    PSO/U's music is godawful when compared to almost any RPG out there.
    Other RPG's generally have terribad music... D:

    If you think PSO had the worse...

    My god you must have bad taste in music..

    Dang gamers and their bad tastes in music...

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    PSO was listenable, but there are so many better OSTs that it really isn't worth mentioning.

    PSU was just garbage. I can understand if most of you are young and PSO was one of your first games. There are OSTs back in the SNES and Genesis days that are more enjoyable to listen to. (Sega included in the Genesis ones)

    Regardless, Sayara mentioned that PSO/U was only a stain, which was my primary concern in the first place.
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    Trolling aside, I'm honestly over PSO's sound track. There's a couple gems but it's kind of overrated. But compared to other mainstream RPG games...?? I'd say it's just AS good or bad in a lot of cases, for it's generation at least. I mean sure it didn't have some million dollar jpop ready when necessary orchestra like FF, but yeah I can play PSO without headphones on.

    Not PSU though, PSU was just something to mute.

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    was the only pSU track i liked. Thats saying something i guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock Eastwood View Post
    Trolling aside, I'm honestly over PSO's sound track. There's a couple gems but it's kind of overrated. But compared to other mainstream RPG games...?? I'd say it's just AS good or bad in a lot of cases, for it's generation at least. I mean sure it didn't have some million dollar jpop ready when necessary orchestra like FF, but yeah I can play PSO without headphones on.

    Not PSU though, PSU was just something to mute.
    I would argue that even if PSO's soundtrack isn't something I would listen to on its own (outside of Tricktrack, I suppose), it certainly is something that perfectly fits the game itself, while also not being bad music.

    These two things together are pretty much the best example of how to properly compose music for a video game, by making the music fit the pace, action and tone of the game in which it appears, it can elevate the experience through cohesion.

    Which, yeah, is something that PSU was missing in the worst ways.

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    I dunno man, i commonly work to the origins of a revolution all the time.

    "It looks cool this way, let's stop."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Powder Keg View Post
    PSO was listenable, but there are so many better OSTs that it really isn't worth mentioning.
    I haven't played many other RPG's, but none of the music in them really stand out to me. I usually have to listen to an OST by itself outside of the game to really appreciate it. The Kink in the Wind and the Way music is boring. Mother Earth of Dishonesty sets the stage. From Seeing the Rough Wave is a really cool track. You Have Nowhere to Go is amazing.
    PSU was just garbage.
    duh
    I can understand if most of you are young and PSO was one of your first games. There are OSTs back in the SNES and Genesis days that are more enjoyable to listen to. (Sega included in the Genesis ones)
    Except I'm not that young. I love most of the Sonic soundtracks from Genesis days, and I own all the main games, plus two Genesis consoles that still work, and that I still play. I also love the Megaman X soundtracks, those were pretty damn good too.
    Regardless, Sayara mentioned that PSO/U was only a stain, which was my primary concern in the first place.
    I wouldn't say PSO was a stain. I'd say it was the magnificent poop that we took, and then PSU was the shitstain that was forgotten to be wiped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Powder Keg View Post
    PSO was listenable, but there are so many better OSTs that it really isn't worth mentioning.

    PSU was just garbage. I can understand if most of you are young and PSO was one of your first games. There are OSTs back in the SNES and Genesis days that are more enjoyable to listen to. (Sega included in the Genesis ones)

    Regardless, Sayara mentioned that PSO/U was only a stain, which was my primary concern in the first place.



    In comparison to most RPG OSTs even by today's standards, PSO's soundtrack performed exquisitely well. Episode II, III and IV probably have one of the most consistently good action RPG OSTs i've ever heard.




    Sega's WaveMaster team does some of the best music i've heard in videogames, period. PSU's OST was horseshit, but PSO/everything else they touch is sheer gold. Fumie Kumatani, Hideaki Kobayashi, and Kenichi Tokoi are the musicians who are credited the most for PSO's music ,although its only Kumatani and Kobayashi credited on Ep.1. They don't individually credit the artists on Episode II's OST for some reason though, but it's pretty obvious who's behind it (and Wavemaster does all the music for Sega's flagship stuff anyway.)



    In fact, it's pretty astounding. I really have no idea what happened to PSU's OST. Kenichi Tokoi did alot of songs in PSU that i find absolutely annoying, but for the most part, he's responsible for all of the Moatoob tracks. Kumatani probably is my favorite out of all of them throughout all the games, because her songs are frequently very melodic and catchy....and Neudaiz was the only planet where i didn't want to rip my ears out; She did most of the music for that planet. Kobayashi (pretty much every epic boss theme from Ep.I and II) did Parum.



    I recently downloaded Planetary Pieces (Unleashed's OST), and the entire game's OST is almost exclusively those three and Tomoya Ohtani (another god at catchy tracks). Most of it is PSO-ish quality music.


    Quick game comparison

    Kumatani
    Spoiler!



    Tokoi

    Spoiler!



    Kobayashi (as if anyone needs to explain this guy)
    Spoiler!



    I really can't guess what happened to PSU's OST....
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    Probably was trying a bit of a new direction with the music, that's all. You can tell they were trying, more often than not, to try to mix a bit of the epic orchestral score into the Phantasy Star music for PSU. I would imagine, for some, that didn't mesh as well. Where as Phantasy Star Online had very few tracks trying to go that route after the intro. Moreso, in PSO, they were sticking specifically with a very very electronica sound with experimental keyboard sound envelopes. PSU, I guess for the purpose of its direction, was likely putting pressure to mix that with a different approach.

    To a degree, I can understand the feeling on both sides of the spectrum, being a composer myself and going through a similar question about music style change.

    For me, it was TRON. Loved the original soundtrack, Love the one for Tron 2.0 (and killer App). Mostly because I absolutely loved the electronica orchestra computer sound of Wendy Carlos, which contributed to those two. I wasn't as enamoured with Daft Punk's music in the new Tron because I felt it went a good direction away from Wendy's style. Thing is, nobody composes like Wendy. She's a one of a kind, but at the same time, her style sort of became synonymous with TRON. It's a tough sell for me, to accept something else, oddly enough.

    Still, Wavemaster is a great company for music. Sega really had a lot of hits through them. In a way, I feel the same for Studio Aqua (for which SNK had used for some more recent titles). Studio Aqua is an excellent Japanese team, who also really knows their stuff when it comes to Japanese styles. Wavemaster, while I think doesn't quite have it in for all the various Japanese styles, they have a great grip on a wide range of styles across the world. To tell you the truth, I wanted to be a part of them for a good while. Right around the times Richard Jacques worked with them. We both started in music at similar ages. I was 4.
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    I love how this topic goes from talking about how shitty a company Sega is to how shitty PSO and PSU music is.
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    Bit off-topic, but I'm just sick and tired of "difficulty" meaning "stat boosts". It's lazy and boring.

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