Fighter Discussion

[milranduil]

Thanks for the replies.

What kind of numbers does everyone get with Backhand Smash?
I saw JP people on the swiki saying they get ~500k with Ideal, although I don't know what the circumstances are.

With Ideal 60 element + Limit Break, the best values I've seen so far are ~150k without WB and ~350k with.

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[Utterly Vile]

I was hitting well over 21k+ at lvl 48 with no buff or stat modifiyer. I was also utilizing Dragon Ex combo with armor weapon set. Just using true hit backhand smash was yielding me those numbers.. So I can only imagine what that PA could do at higher lvls, and the right gear.

[TwistedShaerk]

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ideal bhs

Yeah that seems about right. I don't do nearly as much but I did my tests without team tree buff and my own Ideal Hunt is only +20 because I'm poor and only have around 20 Lambdas at the moment.

Plus without buffs I have like 100 less S-ATK than you because my units are of the plebian +115 status

Edit: Just did a test with full buffs but only +20 Ideal Hunt, did roughly 90k less damage than adios per BHS, so I clearly suck at this game and should uninstall.

[TaigaUC]

Maybe part of the reason is because I don't have rank 17 on most of my characters.
I only have around 2500 SATK unbuffed on all my Fi/Hus.

[TwistedShaerk]

I've got like 4077 S-ATK with all my stuff active and max buffs...and I still can't hit a 200k BHS on Rodos. ;-;

Though this can be blamed on +20 Ideal Hunt instead of +40 and no BHS 17.

[TaigaUC]

On my rank 17 character with maxed 60 light Ideal I'm getting anything bewteen 160k to 220k.
That's on Bal Lodos' mouth, with Shifta drink and 2542 base SATK.
Super tired, so I'm having trouble following exactly what I did.
I assume the ~220k is when I triggered all the multipliers.

Will try again later, I guess.

[milranduil]

BHS17 is huge. It's 15% more damage than 16 iirc.

[TwistedShaerk]

Kind of what I expected, at least looking at the values. Now game give me some BHS 17 please. ;w;

[final_attack]

Oh, mine's at 2672 S-Atk (1029 naked, 3248 with LB+PPSlayer) without drinks or shifta

Probably will put my Atk around 3600-ish with Shifta and Drinks? o-o

Oh, it's +95 Atk affix on weapon o-O

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Kind of what I expected, at least looking at the values. Now game give me some BHS 17 please. ;w;

Doing City EQ that will start soon (around 1 hour) might give you 1 o-o I got mine on City EQ ...... from random mob drop ...... as Gu-main, I think

[lemonlight16]

Would you guys recommend Massive Hunter + Limit Break? Is it worth it for super armor + resist?

Trying to decide between MH and S-atk up 3

It's mainly for Partisan Volg Combo