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    Default Force build with multiple trees

    Ive seen allot skill trees for forces. I just started my force now and I read that there are different trees u can pick:
    -1 utility tree if u dont have ac to add trees
    -multiple trees with all their own focus (element for example)

    Can these focus trees be found on the forums?

    I have also read allot about the sub for force. fighter is mentioned allot. Since Im using a female newman, tech atk is all I have. Is the fo/te combination still a decent one or are all forces fighters now cuz of some sort of pp regen u get with that?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Du1337 View Post
    Ive seen allot skill trees for forces.
    ALLOT.

    Sorry, had to. My OCD striked.

    Quote Originally Posted by Du1337 View Post
    I just started my force now and I read that there are different trees u can pick:
    -1 utility tree if u dont have ac to add trees
    -multiple trees with all their own focus (element for example)

    Can these focus trees be found on the forums?

    I have also read allot about the sub for force. fighter is mentioned allot. Since Im using a female newman, tech atk is all I have. Is the fo/te combination still a decent one or are all forces fighters now cuz of some sort of pp regen u get with that?
    From what I know, there are two "mainsrtream" FO builds, and it depends on if you wanna focus on max DPS with fire techs, or if you want to benefit from the PP reduction for lightning techs.

    To be honest, I think a dual fire/lightning tree is much more interesting and balanced than having only one good element to play with.

    On the first case, simply pick everything in the fire side of the tree except Burn Boost and T-ATK Up 1 and 2. If you go for that and Just Reversal, you've got 15 points left. You can max Rare Mastery and put the last 5 points wherever you want (I guess in T-ATK Up 1, for example, or maybe in Bolt Mastery).

    On the second case, instead of getting Flame Mastery 2, max Bolt PP Save and Tech JA Advance. This will give you slightly less damage with Fire techs, but more damage with other elements, and you'll get the ability to spam Zonde non-stop almost without running out of PP.

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    Lawl, thansk allot!

    So I understand the skill poitns allow it to build a balanced Fire and Lighting tree without losing any DPS in end game?

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    You'd lose DPS regarding fire spells, but since you got Tech JA Advance in exchange for Rare Mastery and Flame Mastery 2, the difference should be minimal.

    Also, since the new OP tech of choice is Namegid, and Forces don't have any elemental boost for dark techs, it's better to max the non-elemental boosts if you plan to use it.

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    I'd start with getting PP Charge revival. It'll help you to cast more techs continuously. Tech charge advance 1 and 2 are also good skills to invest in. I made the decision on my tree based on what techs i use more (which back in the early days was Rafoie) and made my tree up based on that, so i went with flame mastery. With Flame mastery 1 and 2 on, a charged JA Nafoie to a weak bulleted point can really hurt

    Also, I found Techer a quite good choice as a subclass for Force. I invested in skills all the way down the middle tree until i maxed PP Restorate 1, and then went on to element weak hit. Also i've been told extend assist is fairly helpful.
    Last edited by Simperheve; Aug 22, 2013 at 03:15 AM. Reason: Added info about Techer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darki View Post
    From what I know, there are two "mainsrtream" FO builds, and it depends on if you wanna focus on max DPS with fire techs, or if you want to benefit from the PP reduction for lightning techs.

    To be honest, I think a dual fire/lightning tree is much more interesting and balanced than having only one good element to play with.

    On the first case, simply pick everything in the fire side of the tree except Burn Boost and T-ATK Up 1 and 2. If you go for that and Just Reversal, you've got 15 points left. You can max Rare Mastery and put the last 5 points wherever you want (I guess in T-ATK Up 1, for example, or maybe in Bolt Mastery).

    On the second case, instead of getting Flame Mastery 2, max Bolt PP Save and Tech JA Advance. This will give you slightly less damage with Fire techs, but more damage with other elements, and you'll get the ability to spam Zonde non-stop almost without running out of PP.
    Do not max Rare Mastery, on any class, only 1 point for that +30 stat on your main class is enough, since the other 9 points are 20 stat and rare mastery doesn't count toward gear equipping. As a matter of fact, getting T-atk up (or S/R-atk) is lesser damage boost than if going for a % skill. Although, some argue that 20 or 30 stat at endgame = 1% which is why 1 point in rare mastery is alright/recommended.

    And like he said, only invest skill point in statut effect boost (think burning and the like) as a strict minimum to meet prerequirement for other skill. The reason is because they don't add to the statut effect, but they are a multiplier. Maxed they are 10% time the base statut effect, which is almost always 20%, as such they only become 22% for those. Next to useless. (fire and lightning FO dodge those, but techer fall right in them)

    http://www.pso-world.com/forums/show...205010&page=91 This is an old guide for general usage mostly intended for people with only 1 skill tree by class (and some specialist tree). It's old by a few months and somewhat outdated as far as the 1st post is concerned.

    http://www.pso-world.com/forums/show...&postcount=903 A post made by one of the main contributor of that thread, posted earlier this month. As far as his generalist FOTE build is concerned, it's quite solid. I would still recommend reading the OP post, that one, read up the skill description so you can understand why they are recommended for yourself. (under FO, he also included a fighter sub for his specialist fire and lightning build, feel free to check those also)

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    Fire tree: http://tinyurl.com/kllt9bp
    Lightning tree: http://tinyurl.com/mrdoe6u
    Hybrid FO tree (I use this with dark TE tree ONLY for the extra 58 T-atk and 6% Chg Adv): http://tinyurl.com/kehlw8o

    If you sub TE, you have 2 options really that are the most useful:

    PP Battery (max PP regen and fire/lightning damage boosting): http://tinyurl.com/lynyfbx
    Dark tree: http://tinyurl.com/lmcvvzy

    If you sub FI, you have 1 option since there isn't much to it:

    FO/FI sub tree: http://tinyurl.com/mbz6a23

    If sub BR for elemental weak areas, you again have 1 option:

    FO/BR sub tree: http://tinyurl.com/mk57q5j

    Enjoy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Darki View Post
    Sorry, had to. My OCD striked.
    Really? Allot, but not striked?
    Last edited by milranduil; Aug 22, 2013 at 05:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adios View Post
    Fire tree: http://tinyurl.com/kllt9bp
    Lightning tree: http://tinyurl.com/mrdoe6u
    Hybrid FO tree (I use this with dark TE tree ONLY for the extra 58 T-atk and 6% Chg Adv): http://tinyurl.com/kehlw8o

    If you sub TE, you have 2 options really that are the most useful:

    PP Battery (max PP regen and fire/lightning damage boosting): http://tinyurl.com/lynyfbx
    Dark tree: http://tinyurl.com/lmcvvzy

    If you sub FI, you have 1 option since there isn't much to it:

    FO/FI sub tree: http://tinyurl.com/mbz6a23

    If sub BR for elemental weak areas, you again have 1 option:

    FO/BR sub tree: http://tinyurl.com/mk57q5j

    Enjoy.



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    Disagree with FoBr, do this instead:

    http://ryuhiroshi.funpic.de/pso2/ski...OqBGA6JIJk0008

    If taking FoBr you should be using weak element all the time unless you prefer doing less damage than FoFi.

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    Recommend Adrenaline for fi sub tree. Also Z-O riz says you suck

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