why is grinding such a pain T_T

[Jaqlou Swig KING]

It's such a pain to make you angry enough to keep trying so you can "beat the system"someday and feel satisfied with yourself. It's a nice way to keep most people around (see: masochists).

[hoangsea]

2 words
"bad luck"

[Vintasticvin]

Why is grinding so hard? Its because Dudu knows we "pleasure" ourselves at night before going to bed at nights...?

[Sp-24]

You might be on to something.

[Sandmind]

As far as grinding is concerned, Dudu got nothing on some others F2P out there. And concidering the most recent gears on my old F2P(P2W truthfully), even affix'ing isn't too bad.

[pkemr4]

so would it be cheaper to spend 500k+ for buying grinders and just keep spamming it till i get +10 :3?

[gigawuts]

Maybe. Or maybe not. I don't have my crystal ball on hand, sorry. But here, have these dice. Try rolling them to simulate the experience and they should tell you.

[pkemr4]

well i made it to +9 >_> (9-10 are only -3 while the rest are -2)

[Walkure]

10* weapons pretty much favor -1 penalty over the other risks, even though risk does go up and success rate goes down to 20-30% at +9.

Here's a thread where I calculated average costs for getting to +10 on a 10*, given success/failure risk distributions. The derived rule of thumb is to start using +1 protection items at +7. Using a +5% success ticket +9 is about the same average cost as not using one, fluxuating based on the price of that item.

[pkemr4]

Fleet +10 Get :3

also first try with full protection.