Fo/Te, Fo/FI(Fi/Fo) Build and weapon advice.

[Shinamori]

These are all male Dewman trees.

Force/Tech, Force/Fighter Build
Fo/Te Skill Tree
Fo/Fi(Fi/Fo)


This my final build I plan to go for, being that I cannot make different trees. I'm still leveling my Fo and haven't even started on my Te or Fi, but I'd still like some insight on a final build since I cannot afford a skill reset or new skill trees. Also, and advice on weapons and units would help.

[Hrith]

Your FO/TE build: your FO tree, however atrociously unoriginal, will work nicely for most spells, and do a lot of fire damage. Yet, your TE tree has a few problems:
-A techer without Extend Assist is not even worth mentioning.
-As a caster specialising in fire techniques, you are going to use Nafoie a lot; the PP cost of that technique requires PP Convert to use efficiently.
-If you are strictly going to play FO/TE, Wand Gear is a waste of 2 SP.
-Shifta Advance does not do much, sadly.

Here's a slightly revised TE tree, more tuned to your build as FO main: http://ryuhiroshi.funpic.de/pso2/ski...Ib00007b00000f

The link to your FO/FI build is broken.

[Emp]

Personally I would not invest that much in deband. U wont use buffs that much outside major battles like falz or aq bosses. Ur better off maxing or trying to shifta instead.

On ur fo build. Fire mastery 2 is waste to max since iirc anything beyond 1sp is just 1% dmg increase. Lightning is used way to much in the game, so you are better off maxing bolt pp save.

And ya. A fo without either extend assist or territory burst is bad fo.

[Shinamori]

Your FO/TE build: your FO tree, however atrociously unoriginal, will work nicely for most spells, and do a lot of fire damage. Yet, your TE tree has a few problems:
-A techer without Extend Assist is not even worth mentioning.
-As a caster specialising in fire techniques, you are going to use Nafoie a lot; the PP cost of that technique requires PP Convert to use efficiently.
-If you are strictly going to play FO/TE, Wand Gear is a waste of 2 SP.
-Shifta Advance does not do much, sadly.

Here's a slightly revised TE tree, more tuned to your build as FO main: http://ryuhiroshi.funpic.de/pso2/ski...Ib00007b00000f

The link to your FO/FI build is broken.

So, that leave me with 3 points in TE do as I like? Also, I should do some nice damage with his, correct?

[ShinMaruku]

This what I'd do for Fo/Te it's the most sustainable tree you can work with.

[Shinamori]

What? The tree Hrith posted?

[UnLucky]

Fixed the OP's Fo/Fi build link

It's not a bad build, but since Critical skills aren't very good, you might want to get some utility skills instead like this. It won't improve your damage directly, but you'll get increased PP regen if you've got a status effect. Gimmicky for sure, but +20% crit rate is not much better.

Your FO/TE build: your FO tree, however atrociously unoriginal, will work nicely for most spells, and do a lot of fire damage. Yet, your TE tree has a few problems:
-A techer without Extend Assist is not even worth mentioning.
-As a caster specialising in fire techniques, you are going to use Nafoie a lot; the PP cost of that technique requires PP Convert to use efficiently.
-If you are strictly going to play FO/TE, Wand Gear is a waste of 2 SP.
-Shifta Advance does not do much, sadly.

While I don't put much stock in Extend Assist, the rest of what he said is true enough. Personally I would take 5SP away from Tech JA in order to max Flame S Charge since that greatly improves your damage output much more than just 5% damage, but that's only for fire techs. If you really want the general tech damage, that's your choice.

Personally I would not invest that much in deband. U wont use buffs that much outside major battles like falz or aq bosses. Ur better off maxing or trying to shifta instead.

On ur fo build. Fire mastery 2 is waste to max since iirc anything beyond 1sp is just 1% dmg increase. Lightning is used way to much in the game, so you are better off maxing bolt pp save.

And ya. A fo without either extend assist or territory burst is bad fo.

You have to have 5 points in Deband in order to get Territory Burst or Deband Cut. Hrith's linked build has points to spare which would go perfectly into some of these skills. But I agree, you shouldn't put any more points into Shifta/Deband Advance than you have to, as they give an incredibly small bonus for the SP cost.

As for Masteries, please take a look at the bonuses per skill level. The first one is 5%, which is the biggest gain, but further points are either 1%, 2%, or 4%. These are the best skills you can max as far as pure damage is concerned.

5/10 in Bolt PP Save is good enough if all you want is Zondeel to supplement other damaging techs from another element. Since your lightning damage isn't very high, you shouldn't really be using many other lightning techs, and taking away points to improve those will just lower your overall damage.

[ChinaSue]

Here is what I did for force when I had a single tree: http://ryuhiroshi.funpic.de/pso2/ski...HN00009b00000f

Splitting the tree like this, you will be giving up damage for flexibility. Your fire techniques will be weaker than they could be, and your lightning techniques will be weaker than they could be. However there are times where you will want to use fire, like city AQ, and there are times where you will want to use lightning, for example, Tunnels AQ. This tree allows you to do both decently.

Eventually, I decided to buy an extra skill tree. Here's what I do now with two skill trees:
Lightning - http://ryuhiroshi.funpic.de/pso2/ski...HN00009b00000f

Fire - http://ryuhiroshi.funpic.de/pso2/ski...HN00009b00000f

I spend a large majority of time in the lightning tree. I only really ever use the fire tree for City AQ and sometimes Tundra AQ. In the lightning tree, I choose to max Tech JA Advance over Tech Charge Advance 2 because I like to spam uncharged Sazondes on bosses such as Mizer, Wolga, and Hunar.

To explain my techer tree, I place a lot of value in having max Territory Burst. I like to have it active for as much of a burst as possible. With just one point, I feel like there is too much down time. It's also good for wide spawns. Maxing Elemental Weak Hit is a given. Currently, I am using max PP Convert. It is maxed mainly for spamming Nafoie. If I had an extra techer tree, I would only raise PP Convert to 6 points, put 1 in extend assist, and put the rest into dark mastery. The reason being, I rarely have to use PP Convert when I am using the lightning tree. And when I do, level 10 is overkill.


I should also note, that all of this post and my skill trees are based on AQs. I do not do TAs regularly, and in the rare occasion that I do run them, it is just for the meseta and not to get record times.

EDIT: For weapons, try to get a stone rod, either Rubiascient or Seitenheise until you can afford Amaterasu. For units, you could go for any of the boss sets (Ragne Set, Vardha Set, or Banther). I used the banther set, but I have seen forces around with the other two as well. Use whatever set you choose until you can get a King Set.

For affixing, it depends on which set you are using. Banther or Ragne sets with 2s, I would go with Ragne Soul/Tech3. 3s for those sets, Ragne/Tech3/Stamina Boost. 4s, Elder/Tech3/Stamina3/(Stamina boost or Tech Boost).

[Shinamori]

Fixed the OP's Fo/Fi build link

It's not a bad build, but since Critical skills aren't very good, you might want to get some utility skills instead like this. It won't improve your damage directly, but you'll get increased PP regen if you've got a status effect. Gimmicky for sure, but +20% crit rate is not much better.


While I don't put much stock in Extend Assist, the rest of what he said is true enough. Personally I would take 5SP away from Tech JA in order to max Flame S Charge since that greatly improves your damage output much more than just 5% damage, but that's only for fire techs. If you really want the general tech damage, that's your choice.


You have to have 5 points in Deband in order to get Territory Burst or Deband Cut. Hrith's linked build has points to spare which would go perfectly into some of these skills. But I agree, you shouldn't put any more points into Shifta/Deband Advance than you have to, as they give an incredibly small bonus for the SP cost.

As for Masteries, please take a look at the bonuses per skill level. The first one is 5%, which is the biggest gain, but further points are either 1%, 2%, or 4%. These are the best skills you can max as far as pure damage is concerned.

5/10 in Bolt PP Save is good enough if all you want is Zondeel to supplement other damaging techs from another element. Since your lightning damage isn't very high, you shouldn't really be using many other lightning techs, and taking away points to improve those will just lower your overall damage.

Oh, I see. Since I wouldn't be main Techer, much, I shouldn't put that much into Dark Mastery 2 and make Techer more a utility support?

[Hrith]

Dark Mastery affects force, of course. I removed 15% damage from that, because I consider other skills to be much more helpful.

At any time, if you can afford to put one point in a mastery, do it, it's 5% damage with techniques of that element for only 1 SP.

My favourite techniques are ice and wind, so I have masteries in those. If your favourite techs are fire and dark, go for those masteries, but not at the cost of other vital skills. Maxing a mastery should come last in your build plan.

Also, if you plan to play FO/TE seriously, you should have at least two force trees, and if possible two techer trees.