qoxolg and Arksenth's Guide on How to Melee TE!

[Rayden]

Let's not forget that TeBr has access to Bibras Bow for Banish Arrow, too. With stacked Ilbarta, you can pull off some extremely high amounts of damage, even though Ilbarta did get nerfed, it's still extremely strong.

Vibras Bow isn't equippable by Techer, unless you craft it, but then you'd lose the T-ATK on it. Techer/Braver would need to use one of the weaker T-ATK bows instead.

[Z-0]

Vibras Bow isn't equippable by Techer, unless you craft it, but then you'd lose the T-ATK on it. Techer/Braver would need to use one of the weaker T-ATK bows instead.

Oh yeah, but I have seen TeBr use Bibras Bow to very good effect anyway. 0_o

[Sanguine2009]

Te/br can just use Tenelfter instead of vibras, it has lower t attack but has a weak stance latent to help make up for it.

[Alandsmj]

I heard somebody saying Melee Te/Br

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm24347115
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm24348305

Those are hilarious to watch.

[MetalDude]

So I'm guessing Dalz Woleid is still the wand of choice for TD then?

[qoxolg]

Unless it got a new latent, for damage on darkers 'Loveless One' would be the most powerful, but only by a small margin. Iirc Dalz Woleid has a defense latent that greatly increases survivability.

But I am hoping for a new darkers slayer wand from the toy darkers. A toy hammer doesn't sound unrealistic to me

[Sanguine2009]

we got an 8% element weak hit wand 10* with 1090/965 stats outta the update. its probably the best choice for darkers and mechs right now. name is 新光小槌 and is pretty cheap.

[musicmf]

Here's one person's pure Melee TE/Br
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm24347115

Hm, I think it would be quite fun to play a melee TE like that!
What type of Stat/Skill/Weapons would I need to run around like that?

I think my FO is sitting only at a measly 2700~ TATK after Drink+Shifta (No Tree), would this be enough as a TE? Or would I be doing poor damage with only that much? How much stats should I aim for before considering meleeing things (that aren't mobs of 10+) to death?
Or am I looking at the wrong stat, and should be more concerned about my SATK?

Skill wise, would this be a happy minimum?
I'd assume the rest of the points would go into;

Spoiler!

TE: PP Restorate/Convert, Deband Cut/Toughness, Super Treatment, Territory PP Save, and Striking/Tech Up
BR: Average Stance/Up, Striking Up, Bow for some Banish Arrow amplification

Would I be better off with either Wind Mastery or Dark Mastery, either with or without the Elysion (Sazan, Namegid).
Or if you want to just throw a sample TEBR tree at me, that is fine too I suppose.

And for weapons, am I right in assuming;

Spoiler!

Dragons: [Dark] Noire Wand / Ex Wand (Perhaps a second [Ice] for Volcano)
Natives: [Fire] King Yede Club / Yede Club
Oceanid: [Ice] Acru Carta
Darkers: [Light] Dagacha Wand / Carino Colau (Oops, this was covered in the first posts of this thread... well, ignore that then!)
After that I'm just missing a weapon for Machines and enemies from Harukotan. Any recommended wands for these? Or just wands with the right element (Lightning/Dark) with JA/PP Recovery Potentials?

Is there anything else I should consider before investing in a melee Techer?

[Edit as a reply to below]
Oh thanks qoxolg.
And oops, I thought Weak Stance boosted damage done with the correct element, but after you mentioned that I went to look and I see that it boosts technique damage of the correct element.
Yeah, I guess average stance is definitely a must!

[qoxolg]

we got an 8% element weak hit wand 10* with 1090/965 stats outta the update. its probably the best choice for darkers and mechs right now. name is 新光小槌 and is pretty cheap.

Awesome! thanks! I am gonna secure a light and lightning one I will grind during boost week


@musicmf:
For melee TE it's best to invest in S-ATK, because thats where most of them damage will come from.

Your tree looks good. for BR Average Stance is also a must for mob wacking. Weak is more for bosses that usually have easier weak spots to hit. Even with just average stance you will do quite good damage on bosses.

The weapons are still mostly correct.

There is no good machine slayer wand and also no Harukotan slayer wand.

For those I will recommend the new wand Sanguine suggested. It has high stats and an 8% latent, which will be the best for machines (lightning), Darkers (light) and Harukotans (dark I guess?) The rest of the wands suggested are still the best in their category.

[Rayden]

So is Te/Fi still the only one worth focusing on T-ATK with, or does a T-ATK focus work well for Te/Hu and Te/Br too? As far as I know, the old argument for S-ATK used to be that wand explosions don't get JA bonuses so they're always weaker than the normal strikes, but that's no longer the case. Shouldn't everyone (except for maybe Te/Br) be focusing on T-ATK since that's where all the damage comes from when Zondeeling? How does S-ATK vs T-ATK compare for each class combination?